2023 Steelers Season Thread

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Devo

A dozen plus years wasted, can't you see the one problem that still exists from day one?

Lol. Some people think they can (should) win the Super Bowl every year. Steelers fans are some of the most needy and spoiled in all of sports.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Lol. Some people think they can (should) win the Super Bowl every year. Steelers fans are some of the most needy and spoiled in all of sports.

Of course we are. It’s Pittsburgh! Great pro football team, heartbreaking College team and a joke of an owner for baseball. I hate hockey so it doesn’t count. Lol
I’m not as anti-Tomlin as Devo, but everyone needs to be accountable if the “standard” isn’t being met.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Of course we are. It’s Pittsburgh! Great pro football team, heartbreaking College team and a joke of an owner for baseball. I hate hockey so it doesn’t count. Lol
I’m not as anti-Tomlin as Devo, but everyone needs to be accountable if the “standard” isn’t being met.

Agreed with all of that (I also hate hockey). But Tomlin has the exact same resumé as Cowher (with an even better winning percentage) and I don't remember anyone wanting Cowher to leave or be fired. Even after three straight losing seasons (Tomlin has never had a single one of those).

And the nonsense that Tomlin only won his Super Bowl because it was Cowher's team is a straight up farce. If it was all because of the team, why didn't Cowher win more than one? Why did Cowher go 8-8 and miss the playoffs in his final season if the team was so great that seemingly anyone could win a Super Bowl with them? That's one of the biggest loads of bullshit in Pittsburgh sports history, that Tomlin only won it "because it was Cowher's team".

First of all, it wasn't all Cowher's team - they wouldn't have made it there without Timmons and Woodley - two absolute game wreckers, both having double-digit sacks that year (both were drafted by Tomlin). Secondly, Tomlin made it to another Super Bowl with even fewer players from Cowher's team and nearly won that one, too.

The guy's a great coach. And it seems only certain members of the Steelers fanbase think otherwise. Because around the rest of the NFL, he's coaching royalty.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Agreed with all of that (I also hate hockey). But Tomlin has the exact same resumé as Cowher (with an even better winning percentage) and I don't remember anyone wanting Cowher to leave or be fired. Even after three straight losing seasons (Tomlin has never had a single one of those).

And the nonsense that Tomlin only won his Super Bowl because it was Cowher's team is a straight up farce. If it was all because of the team, why didn't Cowher win more than one? Why did Cowher go 8-8 and miss the playoffs in his final season if the team was so great that seemingly anyone could win a Super Bowl with them? That's one of the biggest loads of bullshit in Pittsburgh sports history, that Tomlin only won it "because it was Cowher's team".

First of all, it wasn't all Cowher's team - they wouldn't have made it there without Timmons and Woodley - two absolute game wreckers, both having double-digit sacks that year (both were drafted by Tomlin). Secondly, Tomlin made it to another Super Bowl with even fewer players from Cowher's team and nearly won that one, too.

The guy's a great coach. And it seems only certain members of the Steelers fanbase think otherwise. Because around the rest of the NFL, he's coaching royalty.

Your memory has failed you. Cowher was 1000% under a lot of heat. That’s absolutely true. I remember because I was a Cowher fan and didn’t always agree with it.
I liked Cowher because he was able to get a team with Neil Odonnelll as QB to the Super Bowl.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Lol. Some people think they can (should) win the Super Bowl every year. Steelers fans are some of the most needy and spoiled in all of sports.

Superbowl?

How about a playoff game, or one past the first round?

He's failed utterly as a coach and as a player chooser.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Agreed with all of that (I also hate hockey). But Tomlin has the exact same resumé as Cowher (with an even better winning percentage) and I don't remember anyone wanting Cowher to leave or be fired. Even after three straight losing seasons (Tomlin has never had a single one of those).

And the nonsense that Tomlin only won his Super Bowl because it was Cowher's team is a straight up farce. If it was all because of the team, why didn't Cowher win more than one? Why did Cowher go 8-8 and miss the playoffs in his final season if the team was so great that seemingly anyone could win a Super Bowl with them? That's one of the biggest loads of bullshit in Pittsburgh sports history, that Tomlin only won it "because it was Cowher's team".

First of all, it wasn't all Cowher's team - they wouldn't have made it there without Timmons and Woodley - two absolute game wreckers, both having double-digit sacks that year (both were drafted by Tomlin). Secondly, Tomlin made it to another Super Bowl with even fewer players from Cowher's team and nearly won that one, too.

The guy's a great coach. And it seems only certain members of the Steelers fanbase think otherwise. Because around the rest of the NFL, he's coaching royalty.

Rose colored glases, just found a local "Fire Mike Tomlin" facebook page, up to 4K members in a very short time, and get this, there are "GASP" black folks who don't like Tomlin, and, people who do point out the only reason he's still here, don't get called racists, as happens here.

He gets a pass, because of the Rooney rule, and the countrywide support for that rule, and, its the only reason he's still a coach here.

The NFL wants a narrative that works, no matter what, and, even the SCOTUS has said that preferences based on color, are unconstitutional, they have many black fans, and want to advertise to that base, I get it, but, its pissed off a ton of people like me, that have learned through life, the best person for the job is not ONE color, not white, red, yellow, or black, its the best person of any color.

That thinking is obviously, lost when your only agenda is money, and not the support of rights for everyone of any color.

[Devo]

I could say the same thing for Cowhers final years, post swearing, because it made his daughters mad or some other stupid shit and he became a different coach, and had lost his fire, I was NOT sad to see him go, except for the fact, I KNEW, that the next coach was going to be black, NO MATTER WHO SHOWED UP, and, that the best person for the job, was not going to be hired, and, its proven true, MEE DEE OK RITTY.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Of course we are. It’s Pittsburgh! Great pro football team, heartbreaking College team and a joke of an owner for baseball. I hate hockey so it doesn’t count. Lol
I’m not as anti-Tomlin as Devo, but everyone needs to be accountable if the “standard” isn’t being met.

Well stated, but for the hockey, I think hockey is still the purest (And least woke) sport left, a bit pussified, if you grew up watching no helmet play, but, still better than what the other sports have become, at least locally.

City of Champions no more.

City of Chumps, well, I could say, that's never changed, but only gotten worse.

[bambino]

I’m not suprised they lost to the Niners, I thought they would. The Steelers aren’t elite yet. The Niners are. Better coaching, better players. Steelers go 10/7.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Devo

Rose colored glases, just found a local "Fire Mike Tomlin" facebook page, up to 4K members in a very short time, and get this, there are "GASP" black folks who don't like Tomlin, and, people who do point out the only reason he's still here, don't get called racists, as happens here.

He gets a pass, because of the Rooney rule, and the countrywide support for that rule, and, its the only reason he's still a coach here.

The NFL wants a narrative that works, no matter what, and, even the SCOTUS has said that preferences based on color, are unconstitutional, they have many black fans, and want to advertise to that base, I get it, but, its pissed off a ton of people like me, that have learned through life, the best person for the job is not ONE color, not white, red, yellow, or black, its the best person of any color.

That thinking is obviously, lost when your only agenda is money, and not the support of rights for everyone of any color.

Who said anything about race?? Oh yeah, just you.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Devo

I could say the same thing for Cowhers final years, post swearing, because it made his daughters mad or some other stupid shit and he became a different coach, and had lost his fire, I was NOT sad to see him go, except for the fact, I KNEW, that the next coach was going to be black, NO MATTER WHO SHOWED UP, and, that the best person for the job, was not going to be hired, and, its proven true, MEE DEE OK RITTY.

Dude, it seems like people from different races sure make you upset. No idea where any of this is coming from, as nobody else even mentioned race. And you have no idea who the best person for the job was - you weren't there. You're just upset a black guy got it. That's pretty disgusting.

[Charley3]

I could care less what race our coach is. I just want to get back to good, contending football.
My concern is can Tomlin win without a franchise QB. Most coaches can’t and when you hire a joke for an OC, you’re done.
All we can do is hope Canada is learning quickly, but about 40 games into his Steeler experiment and nothing tells me things are changing: That’s 100% on Tomlin.
At the same time, Kenny sucked Sunday….so there’s that.

[tommy156]

Week 1 was a thorough failure, from top to bottom, no doubt

[Devo]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Who said anything about race?? Oh yeah, just you.

The moderators, after I was reported.

Some of you should know that.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Devo

The moderators, after I was reported.

Some of you should know that.

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And the owners whose policy holds their name, and, the fact that that rule was CRITICAL in what coach was hired.

You cannot separate the choice of this coach, his experience, and his current record of being a loser in the post season, IF, he can even get there, based on that fact alone.