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Tiny · 11-15-2021, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oeb11

Probably should add - Those who have IgG antibodies to wuhan virus from naturally acquired immunity, likely do not need booster shots at this time.

IMHO!

You were ahead of the curve on this Oeb, meaning you recognized the issue before people were talking about it. As you know, it looks like most people who've been infected have better immunity than if they'd just received the vaccine. The CDC doesn't address that, and yes, that's something that they probably should provide more input on.

oeb11 · 11-15-2021, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiny

OK, add anyone who took the J&J vaccine to the list, who account for about 6.6% of the people who've gotten at least one shot, or 7.7% of people who are fully vaccinated. That's not consistent with what you said, "they are now telling anyone over 18 to go ahead and get the BOOSTER.lololololool"

Tiny, you are correct. FC posted two deceiving posts!

oeb11 -
Probably should add - Those who have IgG antibodies to wuhan virus from naturally acquired immunity, likely do not need booster shots at this time.

IMHO!

FatCity · 11-15-2021, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiny

The CDC doesn't address that.

it seems there is only ONE SOLUTION for everyone.
Your personal health condition or status, be damned.

EVERYONE WILL BE FORCED TO GET ONE OF THESE GENE THERAPIES

Nothing in medicine is like this. Thats why this is truly odd.

rexdutchman · 11-16-2021, 08:30 AM

Forced by governments Hmm ( Nazis like ) all for ,wait for it
Yes control is HERE,,,ALL FOR Fast math using CDC and world meter numbers
CDC=760,266 deaths US
World meter US population 333,697,334

% of covid deaths US .0227831% of population Hmm ( and that's using there over inflated covid numbers)
So can anyone explain , other then Big pharma /Med /gov take over of You and me

Tiny · 11-16-2021, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Forced by governments Hmm ( Nazis like ) all for ,wait for it
Yes control is HERE,,,ALL FOR Fast math using CDC and world meter numbers
CDC=760,266 deaths US
World meter US population 333,697,334

% of covid deaths US .0227831% of population Hmm ( and that's using there over inflated covid numbers)
So can anyone explain , other then Big pharma /Med /gov take over of You and me

Again, your number is off by a factor of 10. Also the number of people who’ve died because of COVID is probably higher than the official count. That’s based on excess death estimates. About 3.3 million Americans died in 2020 compared to 2.8 million in 2019. But the CDC said only 350,000 died from COVID. What happened to the other 150,000? Hmmmm

adav8s28 · 11-17-2021, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Forced by governments Hmm ( Nazis like ) all for ,wait for it
Yes control is HERE,,,ALL FOR Fast math using CDC and world meter numbers
CDC=760,266 deaths US
World meter US population 333,697,334

% of covid deaths US .0227831% of population Hmm ( and that's using there over inflated covid numbers)
So can anyone explain , other then Big pharma /Med /gov take over of You and me

RexD,

This is not a death rate calculation :

760,266/333,697,334 = .00227831%

Death Rate = Number of infected people that died/ Number infected

For Sars-CoV-2

760,266/ 50,000,000 = .01520532 or 1.5%

If all 333,697,334 got infected

# Deaths .015 * 333,697,334 = 5,005,460.01.

So if no vaccine and everyone in the USA got infected with SARS-CoV-2 you would have roughly 5 million deaths. Not a scare tactic , just reality.

The Gov is just trying to control the spread. SARS-CoV-2 is like measles, it's easy to catch or very contagious.

FatCity · 11-17-2021, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by adav8s28

So if no vaccine and everyone in the USA got infected with SARS-CoV-2 you would have roughly 5 million deaths.

thats not at all reality

"infections" doesn't mean what you think it means
"vaccine" doesn't stop spread, transmission or lethality.

HedonistForever · 11-17-2021, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by adav8s28

The Gov is just trying to control the spread. SARS-CoV-2 is like measles, it's easy to catch or very contagious.

And yet there is no mandate ( that I'm aware of ) that every person provide a Measles shot card to enter a restaurant or a Tuberculous card or a Flu card.

Why isn't there a mandate that everybody get a Flu shot, we know it kills.

adav8s28 · 11-17-2021, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCity

thats not at all reality

"infections" doesn't mean what you think it means
"vaccine" doesn't stop spread, transmission or lethality.

FC,

1. You should have posted the picture of the laughing shark when you said all 18 year olds and above have to take the booster.

2. The message in the m-RNA does not prevent infection or prevent the spread. It does prevent death from SARS-CoV-2 in most cases. There has been 140 million who are double vaccinated. There has been only 2,400 break through deaths.

oeb11 · 11-17-2021, 03:13 PM

/a/ - please post your source reference.for teh above.

adav8s28 · 11-17-2021, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HedonistForever

And yet there is no mandate ( that I'm aware of ) that every person provide a Measles shot card to enter a restaurant or a Tuberculous card or a Flu card.

Why isn't there a mandate that everybody get a Flu shot, we know it kills.

1. You get the measles vaccine when you're a kid go to school. Tuberculous is rare.

2. Seasonal Flu kills about 60,000 per year. It has never killed 500,000 in twelve months like SARS-Cov-2. In 2010 - 2011 it killed 37,000. The CDC is your friend.

Plus there is a flu shot offered every year for seasonal FLU.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2010-2011.html

oeb11 · 11-17-2021, 03:24 PM

There is no tuberculosis vaccine used in America BCG is not used- as the incidence of tuberculosis in America is low..

There is treatment - but there are totally drug resistant strains of tb now.

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/topic/treatment/default.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/default.htm

Thank you for teh link - I agree with you about Influenza A - as i have previously posted.

that link does not explain nor reference this "
2. The message in the m-RNA does not prevent infection or prevent the spread. It does prevent death from SARS-CoV-2 in most cases. There has been 140 million who are double vaccinated. There has been only 2,400 break through deaths.

I have not seen that number for death rate.

Thank You

adav8s28 · 11-17-2021, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oeb11

There is no tuberculosis vaccine used in America BCG is not used- as the incidence of tuberculosis in America is low..

There is treatment - but there are totally drug resistant strains of tb now.

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/topic/treatment/default.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/default.htm

Thank you for teh link - I agree with you about Influenza A - as i have previously posted.

that link does not explain nor reference this "
2. The message in the m-RNA does not prevent infection or prevent the spread. It does prevent death from SARS-CoV-2 in most cases. There has been 140 million who are double vaccinated. There has been only 2,400 break through deaths.

I have not seen that number for death rate.

Thank You

I will look for number 2 tonight.

oeb11 · 11-17-2021, 03:46 PM

Thank You -'a'

HedonistForever · 11-17-2021, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adav8s28

1. You get the measles vaccine when you're a kid go to school. Tuberculous is rare.

2. Seasonal Flu kills about 60,000 per year. It has never killed 500,000 in twelve months like SARS-Cov-2. In 2010 - 2011 it killed 37,000. The CDC is your friend.

Plus there is a flu shot offered every year for seasonal FLU.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2010-2011.html

Key word, "offered", not mandated.