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Old 12-14-2013, 09:30 PM   #76
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oh boy that's why I have a "short on time" special for those who want in fast and out fast. Personally for me 200 an hour is quite enough. Sometimes I have a hard time believing men actually pay some of the outragous prices listed on some providers but I guess to each his own.
They'll pay it because outside the hobby she'd likely never even give them a second thought.

Men and women are different, obviously, so I can't really equate it to "women's terms" to help you understand.

To put it one way, why would someone pay $100s/hour to rent a Ferrari, when you could rent a Mustang or Camaro or heck even some grocery getter family sedan for a fraction of the price? They all functionally do the same thing, but a Ford Fusion isn't going to get the same attention or give you the same experience as a Lambo. And sure you may find an affordable sedan with the performance of a supercar but at the end of the day it isn't a Pagani Zonda, it's just a Mitsubishi Evo.

I'm not saying that a woman who charges what is equal to half a paycheck for a middle class job for a few hours with her is somehow worth more as a person, or that a lady who charges 150 or less an hour is somehow in a lower class or tier in anything but price bracket and possibly exclusivity. I'm just trying to give you some insight on why guys will pay higher prices.
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:38 PM   #77
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Well, ttoday imes are tough . . .and most guys are cheap.
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:46 PM   #78
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Ehhh they (some) just like to act like it when/if they think they can get away with it..
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Being new and not reviewed on ECCIE someone will try you every time about your rate-it is up to you how you'd like to deal with it.

Now as for BBBJ or CBJ-there are still some guys that don't care CBJ is just fine-I find there are more in your area that don't mind.

You will only lose those that vocally express it-just get to know the guys and things will work out for you .

Also remember it is the holidays and a lot of guys have things tied up-I already have guys wanting to see me in January LOL

If a guy wants to see you he will-stay active on ECCIE advertise everywhere and the more they see you the more they'll know you are real/serious/committed to providing.

Right now a lot of guys are not going to gamble much on someone they know nothing about.

I also find that offering half an hour sessions work better for the guys1) because of time 2) they are not sure how things will be so it is enough time to see how it goes 3)they will feel like they got their money worth

If you don't want to do that maybe a hour review special for the first so many people or even reach out to those you think may be interested and see what you can work out-Improvise.

You've got to treat this like a business -YOU are your BRAND!

Good Luck
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Being new and not reviewed on ECCIE someone will try you every time about your rate-it is up to you how you'd like to deal with it.

Now as for BBBJ or CBJ-there are still some guys that don't care CBJ is just fine-I find there are more in your area that don't mind.

You will only lose those that vocally express it-just get to know the guys and things will work out for you .

Also remember it is the holidays and a lot of guys have things tied up-I already have guys wanting to see me in January LOL

If a guy wants to see you he will-stay active on ECCIE advertise everywhere and the more they see you the more they'll know you are real/serious/committed to providing.

Right now a lot of guys are not going to gamble much on someone they know nothing about.

I also find that offering half an hour sessions work better for the guys1) because of time 2) they are not sure how things will be so it is enough time to see how it goes 3)they will feel like they got their money worth

If you don't want to do that maybe a hour review special for the first so many people or even reach out to those you think may be interested and see what you can work out-Improvise.

You've got to treat this like a business -YOU are your BRAND!

Good Luck
Great advice
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I see a lot of girls on BP charging $30, $35, $40, $45 and $50 for their services. I've had guys tell me that my rates are too "high". $150 is not too high and neither is $250. There are girls that charge much more than I do. Cheap doesn't necessarily mean you get better service. I don't like to rush; cardates and quickies aren't my style.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:48 PM   #82
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I'm just curious, do non-BBWs not want to eat on an overnight? My skinniest friends are the ones the eat a ton, and I can't imagine them screwing all night with no sustenance.

Ladies get to eat, I'm not starving anyone lol. Sheed I wanna eat out sometimes too. I have no issue with that as I usually provide food, drinks and everything we need in the comfort of the hotel room via my outcall. I just don't like self imposed and required dinner dates some ladies require for overnights. BBWs for the most part highly suggest and demand this. It seems moreso a principal concern for BBWs rather than other body types. Thats why I book late.....like 8pm or later. Most people don't eat after 9pm anyways to watch their figure, besides a snack or two and breakfast in the morning; so instead of the access calories I instead go straight to their hips lol.

I basically still want 12 hours of a snugglefucking overnight even if we are having a dinner date. So if I do do a dinner date id book more time.......or she would offer me more time free of charge and I would dinner date first. Like if my appointment was at 8pm to 8am, Id do 4pm or 6pm instead until checkout time the next day. That way she has time to digest her food, talk, and be at her best when the service starts. If she is dead set on an overnight I have a lot of criteria for it though. Some ladies have it......some don't. I just don't like the fluff and fakeness of dinner dates. Its not really her.....its her "representative." Ladies for the most part figuratively "won't let their hair down."

1. She's not gonna drink (as much as she would like publically to maintain her full devices ) and eat truthfully what she really wants.......just something light like a "fru fru" salad.....or a damn appetizer. She knows to some extent later on she's expected to perform so she's not really gonna chow down and actually eat like I would prefer she would. And that's a shame.

Some ladies actually have gotten doggybags and to go plates and have the nerve and audacity to leave 70 percent of a whole meal at my outcall after. One lady asked me could she get a steak plate for her kidd for later. WTF.....lol. So disrespectful and unappreciative. But she was great behind closed doors though.

2. The dinner conversation is more lopsided and transforms into a questionaire towards me moreso than an even exchange of mutual personability and conversation. Not all ladies are like this....but the majority are. Seeing the provider in a more natural setting makes me naturally curious, and I can analyze and read people well. I don't like manufactured and fake talk and chat.

3. Some of you ladies are like little celebrities showing your faces in ads in such. I generally tend to do more dinner dates with ladies who do not show their faces.....to avoid recognition in public.

For me my public dinner date preference or oppourtunity for it doesnt start until I hear her voice, see what she looks like, and see if she is presentable and representative of a lady I would date and take out, and if her mannerisms are complementary when she arrives.

Unless she was very personable and accommodating during screening process I wont exactly plan to have one unless I communicate with her somewhat extensively via one phonecall beforehand to find similar interest. I mostly do overnights, and I consider a public dinner date as gratuity......or if she is damn good behind closed doors I may be newly enamored and awe inspired enough to ask her to dinner to discover more.........I can also determine if she isnt my perferred dinner date type and if I would rather choose to keep her best talents and attributes in the bedroom. Some ladies have it......some don't. I just don't like the fluff and fakeness of dinner dates. I think most times its just a time consumer for my particular type of appointment. Usually dinner dates take up about 2 to 4 hours of my booked time with preparation and digestion and relaxation before coitus. I find no monetary value in it....unless of course she is very entertaining.....or I'm hungry and prefer to go out.

The point of the whole matter is this.....business first. For the first 2 to 3 hours of an overnight I want sex, and if she wants to go out for food after, I might choose that option. Not much is open past midnight in many cities and Id rather have sex first before going out to eat. I don't need her all gasey and lethargic before we start having sex. That craving for a samich doesn't come until well after coitus for me. Most women are overly concerned with their appearance.....after those first 3 hours her hair and makeup is messed up and tossed anyways lol.

Some ladies have it......some don't. I just don't like the fluff and fakeness of dinner dates. I don't like paying for that time, but if their is monetary value and incentive to do it I would everytime. I think most times its just a time consumer for my particular type of appointment. Some ladies don't prefer dinner dates in public and won't do them. Although I'm paying for the meal, I don't want it to count as part my paid time. And sometime depending on her overnight rate whether its is low or high........if I have a choice between a lady who requires a public dinner date or one who would prefer or be chameleon to staying indoors via outcall, Ill pick the later everytime.

If its as far as comforts of home like fruit and veggies, pizza, chinese etc.....I can have that availiable via my room. Some ladies Id prefer to see BCD wouldn't be my cup of tea to have a dinner date in public with. I may seek a chick that is real ratchet renaissance one day and a lady that classy the next. Maybe she has a cute banging body and a oj simpson jersey throwback face. I should get the luxury and benefit to make that choice if I want to eat out or not. I consider a dinner date as gratuity and not all ladys have the personality and personability to provide a good dinner date mate. Her strong suit maybe the behind closed doors fun........ladies usually play to their strong suits. Other times it may be because the look of the lady is vastly different to the types of women I would date as a civilian. Its about appearances and preference on a public dinner date for me........in a hotel room its about syncing mutual preferences.

And usually when I book its late at night, like around 9pm. Not much is open past midnight in many cities and Id rather have sex first before going out to eat. I don't need her all gasey and lethargic before we start having sex. That craving for a samich doesn't come until after for me. Most women are overly concerned with their appearance.....after those first 3 hours her hair is messed up and tossed anyways lol

Now as far as the tendency of body types and there actions generally for dinner dates.

1. Spinners won't eat much....(a few peas, maybe a drink or two......boo)

2.Now as far as the petite ladies....half and half. They sometimes will eat after midnight via snacks and fruit and such...maybe drinks....but nobodys chowing down.

3. Thick and curvy chicks actually eat. But the results are mostly mixed. About half and half.

4. BBWS chow down and they will actually eat. Which I find sexy as hell. But it vastly affects their performance soon thereafter. Definitely should have sex first. I have seen far too many ladies get that "itis" and be cranky and lethargic later when they get my friendly tap on the shoulder for MSOG.
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Wow, gimme, I'm not even sure where to start. Lol.

I personally can't imagine being with anyone alone in a hotel room for 12 hours. I guess that's why ladies charge so damn much for overnights. I've also always been if the opinion that dining time shouldn't be included in the total or should be charged at the same rate. Which from a legal standpoint is actually quite incriminating but that's a whole different topic.

That said, I'm wondering how you stand to spend 12 hours alone with a lady who you wouldn't care to dine with in public?

And so you really have that bad of luck when you do chose to take a lady out? I'm surprised because I love going out to dinner and talking and drinking and getting to know a guy. I go out on dinner dates 2-3 nights a week. I eat. I converse freely. I drink as much as I feel like. I don't take a doggy bag. And I'm not lethargic after. Lol.

Several of my friends here in Houston are what I call "True Escorts". Guys pay them to go out with them. Dinner. Drinks. Entertaining clients. At the end of the night, sex might happen. It might not. It really just depends on how the night plays out. They get about $500 a night. Probably $300 more if they end up having sex. It happens all the time in Houston. But apparently this girls are in short supply with all the oil guys because guys regularly offer me a lot of cash to show up with a girlfriend and hang out.

I like your plan of sex first and then eating. I think that sounds fun. While the lady freshens up, you can give her some privacy and go grab a drink in the bar and she can come meet you in 20 minutes or so. Then y'all can go to dinner and return to the room for a night of wild sex. Followed by breakfast.
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:35 PM   #84
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I drink $18 avg glasses of wine, $8 pints and love $100 pussy. I don't know why. I am thin and can eat and fuck all night.
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Ladies get to eat, I'm not starving anyone lol. Sheed I wanna eat out sometimes too. I have no issue with that as I usually provide food, drinks and everything we need in the comfort of the hotel room via my outcall. I just don't like self imposed and required dinner dates some ladies require for overnights. BBWs for the most part highly suggest and demand this. It seems moreso a principal concern for BBWs rather than other body types. Thats why I book late.....like 8pm or later. Most people don't eat after 9pm anyways to watch their figure, besides a snack or two and breakfast in the morning; so instead of the access calories I instead go straight to their hips lol.

I basically still want 12 hours of a snugglefucking overnight even if we are having a dinner date. So if I do do a dinner date id book more time.......or she would offer me more time free of charge and I would dinner date first. Like if my appointment was at 8pm to 8am, Id do 4pm or 6pm instead until checkout time the next day. That way she has time to digest her food, talk, and be at her best when the service starts. If she is dead set on an overnight I have a lot of criteria for it though. Some ladies have it......some don't. I just don't like the fluff and fakeness of dinner dates. Its not really her.....its her "representative." Ladies for the most part figuratively "won't let their hair down."

1. She's not gonna drink (as much as she would like publically to maintain her full devices ) and eat truthfully what she really wants.......just something light like a "fru fru" salad.....or a damn appetizer. She knows to some extent later on she's expected to perform so she's not really gonna chow down and actually eat like I would prefer she would. And that's a shame.

Some ladies actually have gotten doggybags and to go plates and have the nerve and audacity to leave 70 percent of a whole meal at my outcall after. One lady asked me could she get a steak plate for her kidd for later. WTF.....lol. So disrespectful and unappreciative. But she was great behind closed doors though.

2. The dinner conversation is more lopsided and transforms into a questionaire towards me moreso than an even exchange of mutual personability and conversation. Not all ladies are like this....but the majority are. Seeing the provider in a more natural setting makes me naturally curious, and I can analyze and read people well. I don't like manufactured and fake talk and chat.

3. Some of you ladies are like little celebrities showing your faces in ads in such. I generally tend to do more dinner dates with ladies who do not show their faces.....to avoid recognition in public.

For me my public dinner date preference or oppourtunity for it doesnt start until I hear her voice, see what she looks like, and see if she is presentable and representative of a lady I would date and take out, and if her mannerisms are complementary when she arrives.

Unless she was very personable and accommodating during screening process I wont exactly plan to have one unless I communicate with her somewhat extensively via one phonecall beforehand to find similar interest. I mostly do overnights, and I consider a public dinner date as gratuity......or if she is damn good behind closed doors I may be newly enamored and awe inspired enough to ask her to dinner to discover more.........I can also determine if she isnt my perferred dinner date type and if I would rather choose to keep her best talents and attributes in the bedroom. Some ladies have it......some don't. I just don't like the fluff and fakeness of dinner dates. I think most times its just a time consumer for my particular type of appointment. Usually dinner dates take up about 2 to 4 hours of my booked time with preparation and digestion and relaxation before coitus. I find no monetary value in it....unless of course she is very entertaining.....or I'm hungry and prefer to go out.

The point of the whole matter is this.....business first. For the first 2 to 3 hours of an overnight I want sex, and if she wants to go out for food after, I might choose that option. Not much is open past midnight in many cities and Id rather have sex first before going out to eat. I don't need her all gasey and lethargic before we start having sex. That craving for a samich doesn't come until well after coitus for me. Most women are overly concerned with their appearance.....after those first 3 hours her hair and makeup is messed up and tossed anyways lol.

Some ladies have it......some don't. I just don't like the fluff and fakeness of dinner dates. I don't like paying for that time, but if their is monetary value and incentive to do it I would everytime. I think most times its just a time consumer for my particular type of appointment. Some ladies don't prefer dinner dates in public and won't do them. Although I'm paying for the meal, I don't want it to count as part my paid time. And sometime depending on her overnight rate whether its is low or high........if I have a choice between a lady who requires a public dinner date or one who would prefer or be chameleon to staying indoors via outcall, Ill pick the later everytime.

If its as far as comforts of home like fruit and veggies, pizza, chinese etc.....I can have that availiable via my room. Some ladies Id prefer to see BCD wouldn't be my cup of tea to have a dinner date in public with. I may seek a chick that is real ratchet renaissance one day and a lady that classy the next. Maybe she has a cute banging body and a oj simpson jersey throwback face. I should get the luxury and benefit to make that choice if I want to eat out or not. I consider a dinner date as gratuity and not all ladys have the personality and personability to provide a good dinner date mate. Her strong suit maybe the behind closed doors fun........ladies usually play to their strong suits. Other times it may be because the look of the lady is vastly different to the types of women I would date as a civilian. Its about appearances and preference on a public dinner date for me........in a hotel room its about syncing mutual preferences.

And usually when I book its late at night, like around 9pm. Not much is open past midnight in many cities and Id rather have sex first before going out to eat. I don't need her all gasey and lethargic before we start having sex. That craving for a samich doesn't come until after for me. Most women are overly concerned with their appearance.....after those first 3 hours her hair is messed up and tossed anyways lol

Now as far as the tendency of body types and there actions generally for dinner dates.

1. Spinners won't eat much....(a few peas, maybe a drink or two......boo)

2.Now as far as the petite ladies....half and half. They sometimes will eat after midnight via snacks and fruit and such...maybe drinks....but nobodys chowing down.

3. Thick and curvy chicks actually eat. But the results are mostly mixed. About half and half.

4. BBWS chow down and they will actually eat. Which I find sexy as hell. But it vastly affects their performance soon thereafter. Definitely should have sex first. I have seen far too many ladies get that "itis" and be cranky and lethargic later when they get my friendly tap on the shoulder for MSOG.

Lol all BBWs don't demand dinner F.Y.I and as far as being lazy after dinner lol I found that funny clearly you've been dealing with the wrong providers. I could go on and on about this subject but that would be beating a dead horse.
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I like your plan of sex first and then eating. I think that sounds fun. While the lady freshens up, you can give her some privacy and go grab a drink in the bar and she can come meet you in 20 minutes or so. Then y'all can go to dinner and return to the room for a night of wild sex. Followed by breakfast.


+1 That is my idea of a good overnight too.
That is exactly the way it went.
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You think 200 is cheap bc you make 200 an hour lol. Some ppl make 50 if theyre lucky.....and unser 30 realistically....but your rate is your rate and don't let anyone persuade you otherwise
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You think 200 is cheap bc you make 200 an hour lol. Some ppl make 50 if theyre lucky.....and unser 30 realistically....but your rate is your rate and don't let anyone persuade you otherwise
Yes I believe 200 is cheap either their gonna pay it or not it's real simple smart comments could be kept to yourself .
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You think 200 is cheap bc you make 200 an hour lol. Some ppl make 50 if theyre lucky.....and unser 30 realistically....but your rate is your rate and don't let anyone persuade you otherwise
At my day job, I'm pretty happy when I make $50/hr. If I could have sex all day instead...I'd consider myself lucky. Lol
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You're right A lot of people don't make 200 an hour but at least they don't have to worry about LE and other dangerous issues . Don't worry I am sticking to my guns about my price.
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