The Corrupt Ukraine Scam

[Jacuzzme]

That doesn’t make it our business. Far worse goes on every day, in corners of the world nobody’s ever heard of. This is what happens in wars, and why we should be advocating peace, not fueling the fires. If and when it escalates, those could be your loved ones getting raped and tortured, not some nameless, faceless Eastern European.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Bucha was a horrendous war crime. We can keep on naming them.

Not that either of you two Putin-apologists seem to care.

Don't pretend you care about dud rates or unexploded bomblets or the danger to Ukrainian civilians in the future. You don't. Unless you can slander a Dem with it.

Yep. Exactly this.

[Jacuzzme]

You guys have a side gig with Raytheon?

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

That doesn’t make it our business. Far worse goes on every day, in corners of the world nobody’s ever heard of. This is what happens in wars, and why we should be advocating peace, not fueling the fires. If and when it escalates, those could be your loved ones getting raped and tortured, not some nameless, faceless Eastern European.

I have family and friends in Ukraine. I have co-workers in Ukraine. They're not faceless to me, J.

There won't be peace by appeasing Putin.

[Jacuzzme]

I’m sorry to hear that, I’ve got people in Sevastopol. They’re adept at taking care of themselves, thank god, but it won’t help when a mortar lands on their roof. We should be on the same side, and not the one that only benefits hardware manufacturers.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

A lot of Trump voters want to stay out of a regional conflict that is none of our business and could easily escalate out of control. Those are the smart people. The dumb ones, who know nothing of the region or why they’re fighting to begin with, rah rah at the thousands of people dying because cnn told them to.

Yeah. The leftists clap like trained seals at whatever the DNC media tells them to

They are now ok sending cluster bombs - weapons so horrific over 100 countries have banned them - to corrupt Ukraine. These leftists don't give a damn about the Ukrainian people otherwise they would be outraged over having cluster bombs sent to corrupt Ukraine. Cluster bombs which will kill innocent civilians for decades to come

All these leftists care about is defending Senile Biden and feeding the war machine. They don't want peace. They just want an ongoing conflict with Russia because the DNC media tells them so

Utterly pathetic

[HDGristle]

What's utterly pathetic is the fact the lack of acknowledgement by certain folks that Putin's forces have been using cluster munitions with zero mention of it from the typical tit for tat brigade.

We see what you're doing. We also see the drumbeat of repetition of talking points and when other people's words are being lifted from unlinked tweets wholesale without being linked.

Remember that, comrade.

[Jacuzzme]

Ideally NOBODY would be using cluster bombs, or any other bombs, or bullets, or anything else that causes one to die prematurely.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I have family and friends in Ukraine. I have co-workers in Ukraine. They're not faceless to me, J.

There won't be peace by appeasing Putin.

Ditto (well, not co-workers, but family and friends). I talk to them quite often. One of my friends took shrapnel to his face recently. The lack of humanity shown by the Putin apologists in here is disgusting.

Russia plays as dirty as anyone ever has, but somehow they get mad at Ukraine and Biden when they try to meet them at their level. Completely pathetic. And unAmerican.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Russia plays as dirty as anyone ever has, but somehow they get mad at Ukraine and Biden when they try to meet them at their level. Completely pathetic. And unAmerican.

Thanks for once again confirming you are ok with Senile Biden committing war crimes by cheering on sending cluster bombs - weapons so horrific over 100 countries have banned them - to corrupt Ukraine.

You and the other leftists don't give a damn about the Ukrainian people otherwise you would be outraged over having cluster bombs sent to corrupt Ukraine.

You and the other leftists don't give a damn about the Ukrainian people because you don't support negotiating a peaceful settlement

You just want an ongoing conflict with Russia because the DNC media tells them it is good for Senile Biden

Utterly pathetic

[berryberry]

Cluster bombs are banned by a convention signed by more than 100 countries, including many NATO allies. Because of their huge civilian toll, their use has long been seen as a war crime (including by the US when used by Bad Countries)

99 percent of global cluster munition stockpiles have been destroyed, because these weapons are considered so barbaric that their use is unthinkable under any circumstances. It's considered criminal to deploy them.

Yet Senile Biden is sending them to corrupt Ukraine and these will kill Ukrainian people for decades to come which tells you all you need to know.
Neither Senile Biden, the leftists, or Zelensky give a fuck about the Ukrainian people. This is all about feeding their very profitable war machine

Don't forget that the corrupt Ukrainian government has bombed its own people in the past with these type of weapons

[Salty Again]

... Let's NOT get silly here, mates.

... It's THEIR war - between Russia and Ukraine.

Now it may be in America's best interest to hope Ukraine
prevails there, but things are greatly clouded by
President Biden being compromised and NO accounting
of the funds being sent.

... See? ... Facts like that surely give me pause.

And while it surely do seem nice sentiments that some o' you
"know" people in Ukraine, maybe family members and what-not,
but there may be others on the site here who favour Russia.

... No need for anybody here to be boss-cocky and piss-on
others for their-own thoughts and beliefs on the matter.

... Why don't we simply Live and let Live?

#### Salty

[HDGristle]

Nah, I'll piss on what I want to. Just like everyone else.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Ideally NOBODY would be using cluster bombs, or any other bombs, or bullets, or anything else that causes one to die prematurely.

Ideally, Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine. Ukraine didn't sign that treaty either, btw.

So if they're gonna launch them, they can reap their own whirlwind.

[tommy156]

I'm all for Ukraine fighting back dirty. Enough is enough, FFS. And let's be absolutely clear about one thing: the only war crimes committed here have been by that slimy fuck Putin.

And somehow I doubt the Putin apologists in here had these same feelings about it being "their war", and that we should stay out of it, when that dipshit war criminal GWB invaded the wrong country after 9/11.