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09-27-2013, 07:28 AM
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A person who can only post cartoons is in their first stage of senility.
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09-27-2013, 08:02 AM
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Location: Tel Aviv
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At least a Medicaid person is insured and does not have to sneak into some hospital's emergency room when they get sick. The current system has left 15% of our citizens with no health insurance. We are talking about 30 plus million with no health insurance. Tens of millions of people will be insured because of the ACA. No matter how you slice it, being insured is better than being uninsured. Someone with an Obamacare policy will be able to get treated somewhere.
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I agree it is better for them to have insurance, but you do realize hospitals cannot refuse treatment if a mother fucker can't pay, don't you?
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09-27-2013, 09:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
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Oddly, our resident hospital administrator (snick) is implying that they can tell doctors to refuse treatment.
Also, what is the patient isn't a motherfucker, JayLa?
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09-27-2013, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 30, 2010
Location: CO
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
At least a Medicaid person is insured and does not have to sneak into some hospital's emergency room when they get sick. The current system has left 15% of our citizens with no health insurance. We are talking about 30 plus million with no health insurance. Tens of millions of people will be insured because of the ACA. No matter how you slice it, being insured is better than being uninsured. Someone with an Obamacare policy will be able to get treated somewhere.
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I can't think of anything that is not insulting to comment regarding whether there are Medicaid/Care patients (and even a majority if you exclude Mexicans) who go to the emergency room with the sniffles, so I'll just skip to the main point.
Why do you think healthy people need an insurance policy? They don't, they need a catastrophic coverage policy which are dirt cheap compared to Obamacare policies just in case they get into an accident or a life threatening illness. The way you talk you would think all of a sudden healthcare is free in America and tens of millions of people will now be insured. The reality is tens of millions of young, healthy people that do not need or want health insurance will now be forced to purchase something they do not need in order to pay for the elderly that had their entire life to prepare for, and did not.
It's distribution and socialism at it's finest. I admit, I miss the days when people took responsibility for themselves, their healthcare, and prepared for their futures.
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09-27-2013, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nwarounder
I can't think of anything that is not insulting to comment regarding whether there are Medicaid/Care patients (and even a majority if you exclude Mexicans) who go to the emergency room with the sniffles, so I'll just skip to the main point.
Why do you think healthy people need an insurance policy? They don't, they need a catastrophic coverage policy which are dirt cheap compared to Obamacare policies just in case they get into an accident or a life threatening illness. The way you talk you would think all of a sudden healthcare is free in America and tens of millions of people will now be insured. The reality is tens of millions of young, healthy people that do not need or want health insurance will now be forced to purchase something they do not need in order to pay for the elderly that had their entire life to prepare for, and did not.
It's distribution and socialism at it's finest. I admit, I miss the days when people took responsibility for themselves, their healthcare, and prepared for their futures.
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sure like to see exactly where you get your price list from and compare the two
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09-27-2013, 07:24 PM
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sure like to see exactly where you get your price list from and compare the two
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Can't anymore, thanks to Obamacare. The new reform regulations force them to cover all the shit young, healthy people do not need in order to subsidize the irresponsible.
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09-27-2013, 07:34 PM
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thanks to obamacare ... riiiiiiight, I almost forgot
I carried a catastrophic policy for years because of the exact reasons you mentioned , what you fail to mention, a policy of that nature has a VERY high deductible ... my options were 3, 4or 5K if I remember correctly... I remember I chose the 5K deductible and never used the policy in the 15 years I had it
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09-27-2013, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
thanks to obamacare ... riiiiiiight, I almost forgot
I carried a catastrophic policy for years because of the exact reasons you mentioned , what you fail to mention, a policy of that nature has a VERY high deductible ... my options were 3, 4or 5K if I remember correctly... I remember I chose the 5K deductible and never used the policy in the 15 years I had it
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Exactly, young, healthy people will not use Obamacare policies either! It is a complete waste of their hard earned capital which only serves the sick and irresponsible.
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09-27-2013, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nwarounder
Exactly, young, healthy people will not use Obamacare policies either! It is a complete waste of their hard earned capital which only serves the sick and irresponsible.
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so they have to option to not buy a policy and pay the fine .. nobody is MAKING the youngsters do squat ... they can live on the family policy until they are 26 ... sooooooooooo
chances are young people put themselves in a position risking severe injury on a fairly regular basis ... I know when I was young I didn't live under a rock and miss very much action .. and believe me, I was a LUCKY boy
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09-27-2013, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
so they have to option to not buy a policy and pay the fine .. nobody is MAKING the youngsters do squat ... they can live on the family policy until they are 26 ... sooooooooooo
chances are young people put themselves in a position risking severe injury on a fairly regular basis ... I know when I was young I didn't live under a rock and miss very much action .. and believe me, I was a LUCKY boy
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Hopefully they have that option, and not jail time if they can't pay the fine, but you cannot make the claim that they are not making them do squat, when there is the possibility of them going to prison.
It would make it much more palatable for me if Obama would just come out and say "yes" or "no" on whether or not they are going to put you in prison for not having the ability to pay the fine. I haven't heard a reporter ask lately, but to my knowledge, nobody in the administration has answered this question and dodged it every time.
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09-27-2013, 08:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 19, 2011
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Originally Posted by nwarounder
Hopefully they have that option, and not jail time if they can't pay the fine, but you cannot make the claim that they are not making them do squat, when there is the possibility of them going to prison.
It would make it much more palatable for me if Obama would just come out and say "yes" or "no" on whether or not they are going to put you in prison for not having the ability to pay the fine. I haven't heard a reporter ask lately, but to my knowledge, nobody in the administration has answered this question and dodged it every time.
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Thank you for posting. In a very nice way you showed Ozombies what dumb ass's they are.
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09-27-2013, 09:10 PM
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Join Date: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Central Texas
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In a very nice way you showed Ozombies what dumb ass's they are.
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The hell you say! When did "Sweet Ass" IIFFY switch parties and become an Ozombie?
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09-27-2013, 09:18 PM
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The hell you say! When did "Sweet Ass" IIFFY switch parties and become an Ozombie?
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There you are, like butter in sunshine.
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09-27-2013, 09:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Central Texas
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Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
There you are, like butter in sunshine.
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Fuk U Ozombie!
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09-27-2013, 09:31 PM
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Location: Dixie Land
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Originally Posted by bigtex
Fuk U Ozombie!
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You are a crude ass, and an ass you will remain!
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