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12-25-2021, 10:02 PM
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Omicron has a very low death rate sorry to disappoint ya.
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That seems to be true. There is increasing support among experts that this could be the virus burning out, as due to its extremely high contagion factor and low mortality, maybe this is how it finally ends. Because it is Christmas, I hope that all of my unvaxxed friends obtain herd immunity. Don't look up, though, there is still that planet killer comet in the night sky.
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12-25-2021, 10:48 PM
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While some early reports have hinted that omicron causes a lower rate of severe Covid-19 illness compared to prior variants, there’s still not enough data to be sure. “It’s too uncertain right now to say that,” Fox said.
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12-25-2021, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
I'm not sure whether you read a lot, listen to a lot of podcasts, or maybe in real life you're Bruce Weinstein and you've come here to toy with us, but you know more about evolutionary biology than the rest of us combined.
I may be dense here, but it looks to me like what Noir Man wrote is consistent what you've written in this thread.
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It appears to me, Noir was attempting to dispute my claim that viruses tend to get less virulent over time. He did so by pointing to two particularly deadly strains of virus that are exceptions to that claim while not realizing that there are over forty strains of that virus that are not deadly making those two statistical outliers. There are always exceptions.
His next comment seems to sarcastically imply that a virus would act in it's own best interest. It won't. It can't. It doesn't know what it's interests are. It acts in the manner it was genetically programmed to. It will only change how it acts when it accidentally mutates again. Those mutations are random and produce organisms both better and more poorly suited to their environment. So yes, they will act in ways that are against their best interest. And they die out like the vast majority have throughout time.
Thirdly, viruses do evolve over time without a design, but the most successful ones trend towards being less virulent because it is a more efficient way to replicate in new hosts, as a sicker host is less mobile and and less able to spread the infection. Once the host dies the virus dies with it. (becomes inactive) Especially a virus that requires blood to blood contact for transmission. Nature rewards flexibility. That's why viruses have been around so long. They tend to spontaneously mutate a lot. Some survive, most do not.
If Noir is not trying to use the aids viruses to disprove my premise about viruses then I have misread his intent. He is free to clarify the point of his post. We'll see.
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12-26-2021, 06:25 AM
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In the late 60's as a public school teacher when the school got inundated with a wave of flu taking 35-40% of the students out of school .... I used "distancing" in the classroom ... no mask, no chemicals, no vaccines, and no special precautions .... just stay in your desk, cover coughs and sneezes, and don't come to my desk for anything .... a designated student who had no ... NO ... symptoms passed out and returned papers and left them on the front corner of my desk.
All this bullshit about mandatory this and that is to justify another election by mail.
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Ok, let me get this straight...you are both bitching about mandates that slow the spread of Covid while bragging about mandates you instigated to prevent the spread of the flu while a teacher in the sixties?
Holy crap...I bet you were lustylad's Economics teacher!
I would suggest all listen to doc concerning this matter.
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12-26-2021, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tobias1988
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That seems to be true. There is increasing support among experts that this could be the virus burning out, as due to its extremely high contagion factor and low mortality, maybe this is how it finally ends. Because it is Christmas, I hope that all of my unvaxxed friends obtain herd immunity. Don't look up, though, there is still that planet killer comet in the night sky.
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Viruses certainly mutate which refers to change. It doesn't necessarily mean the Virus changes to become more or less deadly it just means change. With this new Omicron variant it apparently has mutated to be more easily transmissible but it's severity is much more mild in comparison to the other variants.
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12-26-2021, 08:37 AM
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While some early reports have hinted that omicron causes a lower rate of severe Covid-19 illness compared to prior variants, there’s still not enough data to be sure. “It’s too uncertain right now to say that,” Fox said.
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... Glad to see you're quoting FOX.
They're correct most of the time.
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12-26-2021, 09:47 AM
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... Glad to see you're quoting FOX.
They're correct most of the time.
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May I suggest you post less on this subject and pay more attention to wtf docbutter has to say.
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12-26-2021, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Glad to see you're quoting FOX.
They're correct most of the time.
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Originally Posted by WTF
May I suggest you post less on this subject and pay more attention to wtf docbutter has to say.
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Well spoken, WTF.
Salty doesn’t miss an opportunity — appropriate or not — to be a cheerleader for Trump, Fox, and all things alt-reality.
With all due respect, we get you Salty. We got you under your former handle and we get you now.
Please don’t get your feelings hurt, but you’re beginning to sound like a broken record… one of the many from a certain blue state.
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12-26-2021, 01:21 PM
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Dummies, it wasn't fox news in reference...
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12-26-2021, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
I'm not sure whether you read a lot, listen to a lot of podcasts, or maybe in real life you're Bruce Weinstein and you've come here to toy with us, but you know more about evolutionary biology than the rest of us combined.
I may be dense here, but it looks to me like what Noir Man wrote is consistent what you've written in this thread.
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Tiny, on a related note here is a clip of Jamie Metzl on the Lex Fridman podcast discussing the Covid origin issue and the article by Mobley (sp?). This clip is only about 10 minutes but this podcast is around 4 hours. They cover Mobley and Covid origins for about an hour there but this is more the Readers Digest version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYEUljSI9dY
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12-26-2021, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ducbutter
Tiny, on a related note here is a clip of Jamie Metzl on the Lex Fridman podcast discussing the Covid origin issue and the article by Mobley (sp?). This clip is only about 10 minutes but this podcast is around 4 hours. They cover Mobley and Covid origins for about an hour there but this is more the Readers Digest version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYEUljSI9dY
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That is the best explanation I've heard for the virgin of the outbreak
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12-26-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
That is the best explanation I've heard for the virgin of the outbreak
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Stop being a pervert. You know damn well it's "version". There are high standards on this whore board for fucks sake! I just RTM'd your post btw.
Sorry folks for the lame comedy. I'm just waiting for the Cowboys game to start.
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12-27-2021, 07:24 AM
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12-27-2021, 07:25 AM
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The latest VAERS data has been published.
Dr. Peter McCullough (@PeterMcCulloughMD) estimates that VAERS is underreported by a factor of "4 to 5".
983,756 Adverse Events
108,572 Hospitalizations
107,860 Urgent Care
12,317 Bell's Palsy
10,429 Heart Attacks
20,560 Myocarditis
34,615 Permanently Disabled
20,622 Deaths
100% Safe And Effective
https://openvaers.com/covid-data
@KanekoaTheGreat
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12-27-2021, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
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The latest VAERS data has been published.
Dr. Peter McCullough (@PeterMcCulloughMD) estimates that VAERS is underreported by a factor of "4 to 5".
983,756 Adverse Events
108,572 Hospitalizations
107,860 Urgent Care
12,317 Bell's Palsy
10,429 Heart Attacks
20,560 Myocarditis
34,615 Permanently Disabled
20,622 Deaths
100% Safe And Effective
https://openvaers.com/covid-data
@KanekoaTheGreat
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