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11-10-2015, 03:05 PM
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Being young, hard and horny I waited
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maybe that's why I don't ever have problems?
I've certainly been horny, but I can't remember ever being young or hard..
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11-10-2015, 03:06 PM
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This is a Dallas forum and for most ladies here negotiations are a no no. Just remember outside of Dallas and Texas negotiations in this industry are commonplace.
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11-10-2015, 05:35 PM
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It's always negotiable. This is the world's oldest profession. To deceive yourself into thinking it isn't negotiable is naive.
Personally I don't negotiate. I've never found it to be worth the hassle.
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11-10-2015, 05:49 PM
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It's always negotiable. This is the world's oldest profession. To deceive yourself into thinking it isn't negotiable is naive.
Personally I don't negotiate. I've never found it to be worth the hassle.
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Many of us feel the same, so haggling and negotiating becomes a deal breaker. If it turns you on or something to do so, I'm happy to charge a fee so you can do these activities as well, and before you even start....LOL Just start the email, I wish to partake of your negotiation services. I'll send you a link where you can make a donation in order to do so. Once I verify payment has been made, I'll let you know to let the negotiations begin.
To be clear, this still does not mean I will lower my rates, so bring your A game for this service. I'm nothing, if not amenable and even sensitive to that which men desire. However, I provide a service in which negotiating is not the goal, nor should it be expected that we submit to this practice, oldest profession or not. Everything changes, but walking backward in time where this was acceptable, is not my thing.
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11-10-2015, 09:20 PM
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Sadly, for many (or rather most) men the act of penetrating a woman is that of show of power, and so are negotiations. They have to be on top. No matter what the activity.
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11-10-2015, 10:13 PM
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This is a Dallas forum and for most ladies here negotiations are a no no. Just remember outside of Dallas and Texas negotiations in this industry are commonplace.
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You would be surprised how many do negotiate, I can tell you most that I made contact with do and the ones that say they don't or say they won't, I'm not interested in.
I understand they have a business to run and keep their donation rate high for the wealthy guys in here. It evens out at the end.
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11-11-2015, 05:36 AM
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I understand they have a business to run and keep their donation rate high for the wealthy guys in here. It evens out at the end.
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Then why are you so bitter?
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11-11-2015, 06:23 AM
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Then why are you so bitter?
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I don't see how I'm bitter? I'm sharing my personal experience in the hobby.
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11-11-2015, 06:45 AM
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I negotiate all the time....I ask please dont let me cum yet, she says you paid to cum right? Yeah just not in the first 5 minutes, she says well I will let you cum a few more times then....negotiated MSOG
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11-11-2015, 06:57 AM
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You would be surprised how many do negotiate, I can tell you most that I made contact with do and the ones that say they don't or say they won't, I'm not interested in.
This says a lot about the kind of man you are, don't you think? Not that being this kind of man is a bad thing, but no mother would really choose you above many others, as a role model for her son. Just stating a fact. And yes, I know...you don't understand.
I understand they have a business to run and keep their donation rate high for the wealthy guys in here. It evens out at the end.
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So, you got it all figured out. Is that right? We keep it high so men of means will pay our rate, and it's just expected that broke Joe's will get it for less, because that's how we operate? If that's the case, wouldn't men of means screw us over and haggle as well? Or, do broke Joe's just expect them to carry the weight of those who can not really afford to hobby?
btw, I imagine the ladies who do not negotiate with you...are simply mortified you won't see them...really? You do not see ladies who won't negotiate, because you can not afford their rate. It is what it is, hon. No one here believes anything otherwise, even if it were exactly your mind set.
And... don't you realize that you sound like a snooty little b**** when you say it like that, and not at all like the wise hobbyist you wish others to believe you are. Don't be so defensive about your lack of hobby funds that you can not admit to yourself or us. It's the honest answer and which we all already understand it really is. It's OKay to be truthful with yourself and even us, because you are not alone, and being honest about it might make you seem like less of a jerk.
Do you not realize there many here doing the same darn thing you are. It's as obvious as the smile on the Mona Lisa. You wanna hobby, but can't afford to, so you start haggling with a lady. It's pushy and uncomfortable to the ladies, and you'll never ever get the kind of experience that men who do not haggle get, because you already tell every lady here, she is not worth what she posts her rates as. Do you not realize, the you lose whatever percent of the service you haggled her out of? I imagine to you, it's better than not getting laid at all. Hence the false confidence in your statements.
Teddy Bear...you come across as a kid trying to play grown up. You are not quite there yet, but keep trying. Being honest about the situation with yourself will help. No need to get on here and pretend it is anything other than what it is, ya know?
I can imagine your response, but save it. If you get on here and tell an outright lie, you deserve much worse than a public scolding from a provider. Keep it real with yourself and maybe you won't come across as a bitter gentleman. ijs
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11-11-2015, 07:04 AM
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I negotiate all the time....I ask please dont let me cum yet, she says you paid to cum right? Yeah just not in the first 5 minutes, she says well I will let you cum a few more times then....negotiated MSOG
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LOL...now that....is negotiating! Extend the foreplay if you feel you cum too quick. The journey to the land of O....is a sweet sweet ride....
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11-11-2015, 07:38 AM
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I've said this before..a long time ago..in a Galaxy far away....
Trying to negotiate with a lady would be the same as the lady giving you less than you deserve in a session.
Imagine a lady you contacted, told you, " I don't really feel like fucking today..but you can come look at me. I'm really pretty...BTW, same rate applies."
Full rate - for less than what you want..and getting offended because she had the nerve to even suggest it.
Reverse the situation. Guy contacts lady and says, " I really feel like fucking today, but your rate is too high. I only want to pay x amount, but I expect you to perform like I am paying you full rate."
Lower Rate - expecting to get what you want...and she better perform like a porn star or you will post alerts on how sucky her service is.
The most hilarious thing to me is when a man complains about my rate then goes and sees someone who charges more for less time. Why even try to negotiate when you obviously don't need to?
Either it is worth the price of admission to you or its not, but the quickest way to turn a lady off is to be a whiner or make her feel unworthy.
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11-11-2015, 08:02 AM
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I don't see how I'm bitter? I'm sharing my personal experience in the hobby.
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Okie dokie.
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11-11-2015, 08:35 AM
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This is a Dallas forum and for most ladies here negotiations are a no no. Just remember outside of Dallas and Texas negotiations in this industry are commonplace.
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Hhhmmm, outside of Dallas where? I haven't yet come across those places outside of Texas that negotiations are the norm. I travel for my business all the time and I have memberships on boards that are the most used in the places I go. The interesting thing is there are threads just like this one all over the world. With the same bullshit and misinformation spread about haggling.
Even in countries where this is legal, the boards have the same discussions.
The end result is always best when both parties start the relationship on a positive and respectful note.
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11-11-2015, 09:47 AM
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So, you got it all figured out. Is that right? We keep it high so men of means will pay our rate, and it's just expected that broke Joe's will get it for less, because that's how we operate? If that's the case, wouldn't men of means screw us over and haggle as well? Or, do broke Joe's just expect them to carry the weight of those who can not really afford to hobby?
btw, I imagine the ladies who do not negotiate with you...are simply mortified you won't see them...really? You do not see ladies who won't negotiate, because you can not afford their rate. It is what it is, hon. No one here believes anything otherwise, even if it were exactly your mind set.
And... don't you realize that you sound like a snooty little b**** when you say it like that, and not at all like the wise hobbyist you wish others to believe you are. Don't be so defensive about your lack of hobby funds that you can not admit to yourself or us. It's the honest answer and which we all already understand it really is. It's OKay to be truthful with yourself and even us, because you are not alone, and being honest about it might make you seem like less of a jerk.
Do you not realize there many here doing the same darn thing you are. It's as obvious as the smile on the Mona Lisa. You wanna hobby, but can't afford to, so you start haggling with a lady. It's pushy and uncomfortable to the ladies, and you'll never ever get the kind of experience that men who do not haggle get, because you already tell every lady here, she is not worth what she posts her rates as. Do you not realize, the you lose whatever percent of the service you haggled her out of? I imagine to you, it's better than not getting laid at all. Hence the false confidence in your statements.
Teddy Bear...you come across as a kid trying to play grown up. You are not quite there yet, but keep trying. Being honest about the situation with yourself will help. No need to get on here and pretend it is anything other than what it is, ya know?
I can imagine your response, but save it. If you get on here and tell an outright lie, you deserve much worse than a public scolding from a provider. Keep it real with yourself and maybe you won't come across as a bitter gentleman. ijs
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That's a long winded response and it looks like I struck a few nerves today LOL, why does it bother you what works for me? You're here to sell old ass worn services for $300hr LOL, Do you grandma, if it works for you, more power to you.
TFN don't let get started with you, You have something to say, speak your mind like granny does.Maybe that's what really irritates you you ladies, that I keep it too real.
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