Lusty, our intelligence services spouted this information about what the Russians did I guess you could say I am respouting the information. I am not going to cut and paste links for information that is easily accessible to everybody!
I Google searched" Russian bounties on American soldiers in Afganistan " or something to that effect, and right at or near the top of the list was whatdayaknow, the New York Times article and it was pretty damning. The intelligence services have followed the money from the Russians bank accounts to the Taliban controlled bank accounts!
It was important enough to be included in the president's daily brief, the most important thing that happens to that asshole everyday!
And of course he disregarded it!
My life and every other person in our military depends on those people to try to get it right!
And lusty, unless the opposition openly admits to what they are doing, the truth can take years to come out!
Remember Glasnost?
At that time alot of truths came out that we didn't have the answer to until then!
But the russians had to openly admit it to pass your litmus test!
The american military personnel current and former IS NOT basing their opinion on some liberal media outlet! They are basing it in the opinion of the spooks that found this followed it as far as it can go, as is often the case!
For him Trump to say he wasn't briefed on this is not only a lie, but disingenuous. Every military person now serving and former believes in the people that do the dark work!
Not this asshole!
And he had a duty to pursue it!
The motherfucker lies about everything! If he told me that it was daytime, I would make damn sure to go look out the window!
And yes of course I recall the Soviet war of aggression and expansionism on those goat herders!
They fought the beginning with rusty 303s and shit like that!
And in the end, were knocking Hinds out of the sky like safes dropped out of a window of a skyscraper! It was great, the missle attacked the rotors because of the heat source of the engine, and they went their separate ways, rotors and helo!
And two commies would bite it hard!
When I went in the military it was in 78, being a soldier was not a popular thing!
We were often short of personal, and many troops at that time learned many jobs during the same enlistment!
And I was not very good at my primary MOS, the same reason I dont play video games today, engaging the enemy with the HAWK system was akin to a very lethal
video game.
So I was often given other jobs one of those jobs in addition to dealing with the aforementioned NBC room for some time, I was also on a redeye team, the redeye was in comparison to the stinger a POS.
It was the predecessor to the stinger, we had a hard time taking down a drone not even performing evasive maneuvers.
So I can only imagine trying to take out a experienced pilot performing maneuvers!
I did train with inert stingers in the dome, in Stuttgart before my first enlistment ran out!
So I was fascinated when I heard of the CIA stinger program, and how incredibly effective not only the program was but the missile itself! And when I watched Chrlie Wilsons war, and saw actual footage if the stinger in combat well I was impressed!
And lusty, do you think that our military forgot about all of the aid the Russians supplied the Vietnamese?
Why do you think we supplied the Afghans?
If you had taken the time to serve in the armed forces, you would understand the relationship between the military and out intelligence services!
There is often no concrete proof!
But you have to treat it as if there is is because not to do so get people killed!
So you can hold your breath with for Putin to confess, I got all I need!
And Lets not forget that a few months ago that we were arguing about what and when this asshole knew about the virus!
And I said that we had intelligence assets in place that told bonehead what was going on!
Everybody said that China was not sharing info, and I had to ask the question, since when do we America to wait on a hostile foreign
government to supply us with info?
Remember that?
I insisted that he knew almost as soon as people started dying in numbers in Wuhan, and everybody was telling me I was full of shit!
We now know thanks to Woodard, that he knew as quickly as I said he did!
And this was at the time in spite of China recently purging "catching and killing" quite a few of our intelligence assets we had on the ground there!
But what did he do, nothing!
Fuck him!
So dont act like I am un-or misinformed!
Soliders have a different litmus test than you!
But please do feel free to comment on the traitorious Confederate flags flown at his rally's or showing up at voting stations, with what amount to the same basic weapon that I carried while serving!
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Originally Posted by lustylad
I do believe you're not me. No argument there.
Beyond that, you're saying you have plenty of time to spout your beliefs - but no time to verify them or look up whether they're well-founded or not? You're not even a wee bit curious to find out if you could be spouting misinformation?
If so, what's the point? As Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." I could rattle off factual reasons why I think many of your points are wrong, but you don't seem to care or be open to having your views challenged, so why bother?
I'll mention just one example - you keep claiming the Russians offered the Taliban a bounty to kill our troops in Afghanistan. As if this was a proven fact. It's not. It was a rumor that made its way into trump's daily intel briefing along with hundreds of other items. The liberal media in their desperation to smear trump picked up on it saying he ignored it and therefore he doesn't care about protecting our troops because, well, he's Putin's puppet and a traitor as Commander-in-Chief. That's slanderous and outrageous and beyond stupid for many reasons - but the smear seems to have worked in turning vets like yourself against trump.
Barely thirty years ago, the Taliban's predecessors (mujahideen) were killing scores of Russians by blasting their helicopters out of the skies using American-supplied Stinger missiles. You think the Russians have forgotten? Today they get money from Pakistan's ISI and Saudi wahhabi religious groups so why would they need Putin's help? And what's the point of doing it in the form of a bounty? It's obvious trump already wants us to get the fuck out of that shithole after 18 years. And if a bounty was offered, then why haven't our losses in Afghanistan gone up? All it takes is a quick internet search to discover they've been flat since 2015 (at less than 22 fatalities a year).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...in_Afghanistan
But yeah, it makes a sensational headline and maybe if the fake dishonest mainstream media pedals a story like that hard enough it will be accepted as fact by a lot of vets and active-duty military who might otherwise be sympathetic to what Trump has done for them. |
