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Old 08-12-2022, 02:55 PM   #76
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:56 PM   #77
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Debunked.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-records.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...onal-archives/

Obama?

Who had deflection on their Bingo card?

Everybody? Yeah, everybody.
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Old 08-12-2022, 05:00 PM   #78
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If it was declassified, where is the proof of that. Or did the dog eat that homework? Apparently asking for the documents didn't work, or they wouldn't need to come back to get this shit.

First it was a raid, no knowledge or receipt.

Then it was a low level coffee person who was an attorney saw it from the parking lot.

Next it was oh yeah they did produce a warrant and the attorney got to see it, as well as the receipt for all the documents taken.

Finally- oh yeah we did get a document with all the things that they said they took but I went ahead and desertified or declassified those documents. All they needed to do was ask for them despite them being in "negotiations" on the remaining documents. How the hell do we get from a raid that was unexpected to all you had to do was ask, and no notification or receipt, to full notice and a receipt. Pretty sure it changing narrative at Mar-A-Lago is, whatever Trump decides to say-"fox news" and Repubetards all get behind him and say hoorah
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Old 08-12-2022, 06:15 PM   #79
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... Blimey! ... I'm sure all of it will be ironed out before
Trump is voted back on in 2024... "Make America Great Again!" ...

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Linking reddit because there are about two dozen links to other news sources to site the info


https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...rs_classified/


How can you defend the President O. Loompa having classified documents? Because he is a commie spy, that's why. Actually, he isn't smart enough to be a commie spy. He is a puppet with Vlad's hand manipulating him through his prostate.
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Old 08-12-2022, 08:07 PM   #81
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Linking reddit because there are about two dozen links to other news sources to site the info


https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...rs_classified/


How can you defend the President O. Loompa having classified documents? Because he is a commie spy, that's why. Actually, he isn't smart enough to be a commie spy. He is a puppet with Vlad's hand manipulating him through his prostate.
They defend him because they listen to his bullshit on truth social and Faux and other unreliable news sources. They are blinded to the truth. And it's really hard for some people's egos to admit that they have been taken and fooled by a conman and propaganda.
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Old 08-12-2022, 11:07 PM   #82
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... Please don't start to cry, mates...

I can understand you being blue 'cause Trump's poll numbers
have GONE UP since the Raid, but still...

And we're Blinded BY the Truth - Truth Social...

If I visit Mar-i-lago next month - I'm gonna wear a
tee shirt that says "The FBI Was Here!" ... It will be
nice to see it lit up at night. ...

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Debunked.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-records.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...onal-archives/

Obama?

Who had deflection on their Bingo card?

Everybody? Yeah, everybody.
Thanks for confirming Obuma took 33 million pages of documents and Trump did not send his DOJ or the FBI after Obuma.

"At the end of his presidency...Obama trucked 30M pages of his admin's records to Chicago, promising to digitize...and eventually put them online...More than 5 years after O's presidency...the National Archives webpage reveals...0 pages have been digitized"

And you do realize don't you that it was the government who packed up and shipped the documents to Trump, don't you?
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Old 08-13-2022, 12:50 AM   #84
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If it was declassified, where is the proof of that. Or did the dog eat that homework? Apparently asking for the documents didn't work, or they wouldn't need to come back to get this shit.

First it was a raid, no knowledge or receipt.

Then it was a low level coffee person who was an attorney saw it from the parking lot.

Next it was oh yeah they did produce a warrant and the attorney got to see it, as well as the receipt for all the documents taken.

Finally- oh yeah we did get a document with all the things that they said they took but I went ahead and desertified or declassified those documents. All they needed to do was ask for them despite them being in "negotiations" on the remaining documents. How the hell do we get from a raid that was unexpected to all you had to do was ask, and no notification or receipt, to full notice and a receipt. Pretty sure it changing narrative at Mar-A-Lago is, whatever Trump decides to say-"fox news" and Repubetards all get behind him and say hoorah
You are really bad at this.

First - the classification statutes/regulations *do not apply* to the President of the United States. The President has the inherent constitutional power, as commander-in-chief, to classify and declassify anything he wants, in any manner he wants. The Supreme Court reaffirmed this in 1987. This was again affirmed through executive orders most recently issued in 2003 by George W. Bush and Barack Obama in 2009 that specifically exempt the president and vice president from having to follow the stringent declassification procedures every other federal agency and official must follow.



Second - Trump himself had a standing order to declassify documents while he was president that allowed him to take sensitive materials to the White House residence at night to keep working.

The very fact that these documents were present at Mar-a-Lago means they couldn’t have been classified," the former president's office stated. "As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time. American presidents are no different. President Trump, in order to prepare for work the next day, often took documents including classified documents from the Oval Office to the residence.

"He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken into the residence were deemed to be declassified," the statement added. "The power to classify and declassify documents rests solely with the President of the United States. The idea that some paper-pushing bureaucrat, with classification authority delegated BY THE PRESIDENT, needs to approve of declassification is absurd."
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former top aides to prior presidents acknowledged the president's power to declassify was absolute and at times resulted in instant declassification decisions.


https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ied-documents?

Third - it was a raid, and the person present was one of Trump's attorneys, who not only was forced to stand out on the driveway for the whole 9 hours by the corrupt FBI and DOJ, but was initially told by the FBI she could not even see the warrant. When she pushed they relented and let her see it but did not give her a copy of it.

Fourth - The government in January 2022 first came and retrieved 15 boxes of documents they had previously packed and sent Trump. In June 2022 the DOJ and a handful of government officials visited Mar-A-Lago and looked at what documents remained, how they were stored, etc. Trump even stopped by to say hello to them. If they wanted anything, they could have taken it then. They did ask that the room be additionally secured and Trump's folks added an additional padlock to satisfy them. No further requests were made by the DOJ or anyone else until the unwarranted raid by Senile Biden's corrupt DOJ and FBI this week.
So yes, it is clear that all they needed to do was make a request. But they chose to do what they did in a blatant political attack on Senile Biden's future political opponent. Anyone who can't see that is likely a clueless libtard who also believed all the other DNC concocted hoaxes the last 6 years to "get Trump"
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How can you defend the President O. Loompa having classified documents? Because he is a commie spy, that's why. Actually, he isn't smart enough to be a commie spy. He is a puppet with Vlad's hand manipulating him through his prostate.
Man with posts as silly as this, you look worse by the day. they only response that this post warrants is:

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Old 08-13-2022, 01:02 AM   #86
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They defend him because they listen to his bullshit on truth social and Faux and other unreliable news sources. They are blinded to the truth. And it's really hard for some people's egos to admit that they have been taken and fooled by a conman and propaganda.
You mean like how you are fooled daily by the DNC and the libtard media?

Like how you were fooled by the Russia Hoax perpetrated by Clinton and the corrupt FBI?

Like how you were fooled by Senile Biden and his cronies saying Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian Disinformation?

Like how you were fooled by the Steel Dossier Hooker Story?

I could go on and on but it would just be embarrassing for you. The fact is even people who are no friends/fans of President trump like George Will know how fucked up and egregious this partisan political attack by the libtards was:

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Bx2.... Let's keep it about Mar-A-lago -k?

Last time I checked the Steele Dossier wasn't found in DJTs or Melanie's drawers by the Raid that found nuke info.
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They defend him because they listen to his bullshit on truth social and Faux and other unreliable news sources. They are blinded to the truth. And it's really hard for some people's egos to admit that they have been taken and fooled by a conman and propaganda.

Yea, yesterday evening was nice. All the Trumptards were all quiet because they didn't know what they were supposed to be thinking about what was found at their Messiah's residence. They had to wait to be told what to think again

That's some 1984 stuff

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Bx2.... Let's keep it about Mar-A-lago -k?

Last time I checked the Steele Dossier wasn't found in DJTs or Melanie's drawers by the Raid that found nuke info.
Why - are you afraid to admit you were another one that was fooled by the variety of libtard concocted Get Trump hoaxes the last 6 years like the Russia Hoax perpetrated by Clinton and the corrupt FBI and the Steel Dossier Hooker Story?

And now you are all in on this latest piece of libtard garbage - oh he stole classified documents at Mar-A-Lago. When by law the President can declassify anything he wants

Sad you continue to fall for these hoaxes
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FBI Sends ‘Clear Message’ to Trump, His Supporters: The Swamp Is Real, Rep. Davidson Says

The FBI raid on former President Donald Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago is an escalation of an ongoing attack on anyone who dares to upset the political status quo in Washington, Rep. Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) says.

“I think a lot of my constituents were shocked, frankly, across the political spectrum.
But obviously, the more supportive of President Trump, the more upset they were,” Davidson told The Epoch Times and NTD as part of a special report on the raid airing on Aug. 11 on EpochTV at 9 p.m.

“I think for anyone who doubted that there was a swamp when Donald Trump was saying ‘drain the swamp,’ now I think there’s true believers. So it’s historic.”

In support of his statement, Davidson pointed out that the FBI still has many of the same people who spent years supporting a Russia collusion narrative that was based on a falsified warrant.

More concerning, Davidson says, is that the FBI appears to have wholly ended its pretense of objectivity.

Davidson pointed out to The Epoch Times that former IRS official Lois Lerner, Bill Clinton’s national security adviser Sandy Berger, and even Hillary Clinton allegedly mishandled and destroyed classified information but avoided raids by the FBI.

He then pointed out that the FBI has taken no action on Hunter Biden, despite a mountain of evidence of suspect business dealings.


“No accountability for Hunter Biden, no action on that; no action on any number of things that they could have taken action on, like for example, targeting of Supreme Court justices,” Davidson said.

He added it is really hard to believe that the bureau believes that it’s objective.

Davidson says the message the FBI is sending is clear.

“Hey, if you support the cause, we got your back. But if you’re working against us, as [current Senate Majority Leader] Chuck Schumer promised Donald Trump, they have six ways to Sunday to wreck you.

“And they seem to have been very focused on doing that to Donald Trump.”

Davidson added the FBI isn’t just targeting Trump; it’s also targeting his supporters.

“[The FBI] seized the chairman of the Freedom Caucus’s phone.
They didn’t do it in a no-knock warrant raid in the middle of the night with CNN cameras staged in the street or anything. But they did track him down.”

House Freedom Caucus Chairman Rep. Scott Perry’s (R-Pa.) phone was returned to him, but Davidson said that the FBI action to track Perry down was deliberately intended to paint him as a criminal.

Furthermore, the message is that if the FBI can target people such as Trump and Perry, imagine what they could do to an everyday American, he said.

“I think they’re trying to intimidate and scare people from, you know, being supportive of Trump or being too opposed to the status quo,” Davidson said. “You know, stay within the mainstream, don’t push back against the status quo.”

The response to the FBI raid has been overwhelmingly negative among Americans who support Trump, Davidson said.

He said Trump supporters are rightly upset about the raid and how they’re expected to respond to it. Davidson says he hopes it doesn’t go beyond anger into illegal actions and instead energizes people to vote.

“If this had happened to a Democrat president, you know, we might have more of the summer of 2020, where it was covered by the press [as] ‘mostly peaceful protests,’ but we know that mostly peaceful means it wasn’t peaceful.”

Trump supporters are very aware that they may be targeted if they protest against the latest treatment of the former president, Davidson says.

“But if [their support] was the slightest bit of anything that was run afoul, the mainstream media and, frankly, many of our federal agencies would treat it as … some sort of, you know, violent uprising by the right and so, I think people on the right are cautious.”

Davidson said he hopes it doesn’t come to violence but acknowledged a growing frustration among Republicans over an apparent two-tier system of justice.

“Unfortunately, this reinforces it because the people that we’ve suspected had no accountability, like the Clinton Foundation, as an example, [or] like Hunter Biden.


“But then very selective accountability … for [former] President Trump.”

Davidson stated that if Republicans retake a majority in the House in November, they need to step up and not just hold hearings about the FBI’s actions.

“We are going to have to cut off funds and say, ‘Hey, we … don’t want to shut the government down. We want to fund our government. But we’re unwilling to fund a government that does these things or fails to do these other things.'”

Davidson said the FBI isn’t objective or applying justice objectively. While he said there was hope that Director Christopher Wray would return the FBI to a non-partisan agency, “On the contrary, every step seems more focused on undermining the confidence of ordinary Americans.”

However, if “you’ve got the far left of the Democratic Party’s agenda in mind, the FBI seems to have your back,” he said.

He notes that the FBI is “incredibly powerful” and Republicans can’t try to hold them accountable halfway; the GOP must “get after that in a very serious way.”

Even as he wants to be fair to the working men and women at the FBI, Davidson said Republicans need to acknowledge that top leadership at the bureau is corrupt, as is “the IRS, banking regulators, all the EPA, all these agencies, Securities and Exchange Commission,” and they’re abusing their power.

“The far left has really gotten a firm grip on the administrative state.


“They’ve used the influence over the administrative state to get a firm grip into much of corporate America,” he said. “So it’s almost like there’s collusion between these government agencies and the top level.

“No one loves big government like big business, so some of our biggest businesses are also working in concert with these biggest regulatory agencies.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-sw..._4658477.html?
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