List of NOT Reference friendly providers..

[Candi Staxx]

I dont know..
But I must know, Who was it

[Slave Guinevere]

Originally Posted by SgtGonzo

Thanks for starting this thread, I always wondered what happens on the other side when I give references. Ive never really asked a provider if it was ok if I used them as a reference. I usually try to stick to one gal but, when like always when I try to set up future appts things always fall through, or she never responds back to me. At which point I move along and onto someone else. I assume since she can't make time for me she doesn't mind sharing me with someone who can. I like to think I come off as a nice guy and most providers are cool with it.

I only have had one who I used as a reference and as soon as she was contacted for a ref she would call me book a visit and kinda got possessive. Not so funny side note one time she was manscaping me with clippers, casually asked if I had seen anyone else recently. Without thinking I was like yea so n so. As soon as I said it I was like shit. Then I felt a sharp pain. Turns out she dug the clippers into my balls and drew blood. I learned my lesson. Treat the lady your with as if she's the only one in your life and Deny Deny Deny.

After that I jumped on p411 and thought it might help with screening. I always tell a provider I don't really have references but that she can see all my reviews and I always mention who Ive seen recently. It doesn't hurt to have Slave G on my list either I think. Thanks btw.

Can I ask you ladies is that enough p411 and past reviews? I just feel bad about giving a reference name because I don't want that provider who's contacted to be mad and be like why didn't that asshole call me and then she never wants to see me again. lol That might be over exaggerating but am I too far off base?

SgtGonzo...

You are a SWEETHEART!! I just hate that our schedules have not meshed on our last few tries...but I tell every lady that you are a true gentleman and that you are GREAT at DATY!! Lol... Hey, what can I say? There are DEFINITE PERKS to being an ESCORT!!

Seriously though... you should NEVER have to worry about your safety when you are with anyone... especially an escort... it is our JOB to do everything in our power to PLEASE YOU not HURT/INJURE YOU!!

I am sooo sorry to hear that that happened to you... not only because I genuinely like you but also, because it gives the rest of us... who are genuine and nice a really BAD IMAGE...

My ONLY PET PEEVE is when ladies contact me via P411 to ask me for a reference on a gentleman that I have already given an ok to... Now, if I am the ONLY PROVIDER I don't get as upset... but I try desperately every day to streamline my work so that I can be as efficient as possible and the one thing that I love the most about P411 is that I do not have to send a reference out on a gentleman...

I am so detail oriented that I keep a running list of how many ok's that I have on P411 and I check this weekly and if there are any changes... and there never has been... then I would notify Gina immediately...

I have had one client's ok removed from my list after he roughed me up pretty bad... So, just because you have an ok from me does not mean that I will not have it removed if any future or subsequent dates do not go well... So, if there is any type of disrespect or rough handling of me... then yes, I will take action to ensure that the ladies who trust me will not see MY OK and think that you are SAFE to play with...

I take the safety of my female colleagues just as seriously as I do the pleasure of the men that I have the honor of caring for... So, I promise to do all in my power to ensure that everyone plays safely and pleasurably...

Your devoted slave,

Guinevere

[Guest112113-3]

Originally Posted by Slave Guinevere

My ONLY PET PEEVE is when ladies contact me via P411 to ask me for a reference on a gentleman that I have already given an ok to... Now, if I am the ONLY PROVIDER I don't get as upset... but I try desperately every day to streamline my work so that I can be as efficient as possible and the one thing that I love the most about P411 is that I do not have to send a reference out on a gentleman...

The whole reason / purpose behind P411, why do so many don't get it?

[Taylor xo]

IMO you have to remember as well that everyone is different with everyone, as one lady might have a good session with someone, another lady may have a totally different experience.

Taylor xo

[Slave Guinevere]

Originally Posted by Taylor xo

IMO you have to remember as well that everyone is different with everyone, as one lady might have a good session with someone, another lady may have a totally different experience.

Taylor xo

I can understand where you are coming from with this statement... However, I am not a NEWBIE... I am an ESTABLISHED provider with a reputation for being INCREDIBLY anal retentive....

I have NO ISSUES remembering almost EVERY DETAIL of 90% of the dates that I have had... and yes, many time I can even describe what was worn by my date. So, if I give a gentleman an Ok... it should carry some weight...

Now, before you say... WHAT ABOUT the ladies who TOUR? Well, as one of my men made the MISTAKE of pointing out to me... Lol... I have given over a 100 ok's in the last two years... NOW, I offer no apologies to anyone on how I live and how I play... I love MEN and I love to PLAY... if that is an issue... than I ask that you not contact me...

One of the GREAT benefits of being in my 40's is an incredible amount of self confidence... and so, I have NO INTEREST in how many people that my partner has played with... I am intently focused on him and he is completely focused on ME... So, for that time... we are alone in a world of MAGIC and MYSTERY... we are in the world of Slave G...

Your erotic slave,

Guinevere

[Guest061815-1]

Slave gets it. I have received astonishingly fast response from her to my requests for references and vouches. Her TCB is, as with everything else about her, second to none.

[Ember Simmers]

Hey guys!!! I travel to over 20 cities and I keep track of all my clients. It's not that hard these days with smart phones to do so.
So if anyone ever needs a reference I'm definitely ref friendly!!
And yes, everyone always has different experiences with clients, however the MAIN thing would be to AT LEAST let the girls know he isn't a cop, even if you don't remember much about the session.
See y'all in a few days!

[Guest112113-3]

In a few days....

[SgtGonzo]

Originally Posted by Slave Guinevere

SgtGonzo...

You are a SWEETHEART!! I just hate that our schedules have not meshed on our last few tries...but I tell every lady that you are a true gentleman and that you are GREAT at DATY!! Lol... Hey, what can I say? There are DEFINITE PERKS to being an ESCORT!!

You heard it here ladies! Im GREAT at daty and a gentleman.

Just made my day.

[Guest101314]

Well, I take that as a vouch! LOL

Slave really does have it down pat. To me, I have a horrible memory of names, but she is always SOOO detailed, she knows their name, physical description to a t, even their size.. hehe If Slave vouches for you... I don't need to hear from the other ones..

Slave I appreciate you soooo much! As do many of the other ladies on here!

[Candi Staxx]

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

Well, I take that as a vouch! LOL

Slave really does have it down pat. To me, I have a horrible memory of names, but she is always SOOO detailed, she knows their name, physical description to a t, even their size.. hehe If Slave vouches for you... I don't need to hear from the other ones..

Slave I appreciate you soooo much! As do many of the other ladies on here!

+1!
Yes we all know to screen well, and I know I agree with Tracy with that 2 last sentences very much! Slave is definitely the Best reference a Gentlemen can have, IJS. So thank you too Slave for being You so well

[Guest101114]

Originally Posted by Candi Staxx

Mods Is this "legal" here or could it be a good idea?

Its very frustrating trying to screen, with so many girls that just plain dont give references. I always do a little homework, just to make sure there is nothing on a girls profile indicating how she wants to be contacted for references. Always of course I label the subject in my messages as reference check, if its on here definitely look to see the message was confirmed. We all seem to usually be helpful to each others, some just seem to really not care. Even more aggravating is the ones who make it a point to claim to be reference friendly, but then wont even acknowledge requests. Some providers are just known not to..most here do and are always more than helpful with them (for the most part we have a great community here!) But there's almost just as many who just straight ignore the requests altogether! Why cant (we providers) have a list so we know which ones to not even waste typing to? I can understand if this is'nt a good idea, but hoping we could maybe utilize it. Of course in the ladies infoshare forum, not for everyone to see.



Also for my Gentlemen,
I know there's only so much you guys can do, but I think its always good to ask a provider if they are reference friendly. I try to make a point to tell anyone when they are departing that I am, and my favored way for others to contact me for a reference. Even though yes most of us are, I would suggest and ask that when using ladies as references, you have already asked whomever to vouch for you. I understand you guys can only do too much, but if you not knowingly give a name of a girl you've seen who does'nt give references, then obviously it not only delays meeting, but sometimes can even "spook" us out (thinking it was possibly fake info) or causing you even to think your getting blown off.
Either way, it can lead to difficulties for sure.
Thanks for listening, please let me know any thoughts anyone..

Argh, the pink writing finally got to my eyes!! Migraine sufferer here... Oh, my little sensitive eyes... I just couldn't finish.

Candi, I will always vouch. I don't check my eccie messages a lot since I rarely play but if I see a message from someone I know or a provider asking for a reference check I'll always open it.

Oh, and yes... Slave is the best. (Sonya too!!)

[Hollywood101]

Originally Posted by Woody of TX

The whole reason / purpose behind P411, why do so many don't get it?

I have actually contacted ladies from p411 regardless of their okays given to a gent and a few times they've actually told me they wouldn't see the client again even though they gave an okay. Some ladies give out the okay based on the fact the guy isn't a cop or they don't want to deal with fall out if they decline to give an okay. For me, I want to know a bit more than that he's legit. I want to know that there were no hygiene issues or creep factors.

And yes, Slave is an absolute breath of fresh air when giving a vouch!

I couldn't agree more with the OP. It is quite frustrating when ladies just ignore the request for a vouch. What really chaps my arse is when you see a lady you've pm'd is online and posting all over the place but has yet to respond, it's like, seriously. I completely understand that they may get hit with the little green monster but it just shows their lack of class to not take the high road and rise above it and give the vouch for the gentlemen.

[Maxx]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before but, Why can't the ladies have a thread in the Powder Room that they could put handles with stars, asterisks, or comments like OK, nice looking, gentleman,or in Sarge's case and hopefully mine "great DATY" (at least I'd like to think so). It would still be anonymous and would give them a list to look up when in doubt. It would also help some of the ole time returnees, such as myself get an appt, that don't have the recent visits that some of you ladies require. I haven't reviewed every lady I visited over the years. I'd be willing to send an ID or answer some special questions. Some of you ladies I'd really like to see, but being it's early in my return to the hobby I don't want to be rejected.

[Guest112113-3]

Originally Posted by Hollywood101

I have actually contacted ladies from p411 regardless of their okays given to a gent and a few times they've actually told me they wouldn't see the client again even though they gave an okay. Some ladies give out the okay based on the fact the guy isn't a cop or they don't want to deal with fall out if they decline to give an okay. For me, I want to know a bit more than that he's legit. I want to know that there were no hygiene issues or creep factors.

Hollywood good point and its ashame. Have a few of you girls thou about contacting Gina and explain just that? If there could be more options on a guys reference telling a little more details, asking her to have a drop down list as per say, with negative and positive options, such as you mentioned above and include a small text box for comments that only the providers see, etc.

Gina as most of you know runs a tight ship and wants only the best for both the provider and client, she has asked many times for suggestions and is willing to listen.

I have suggested a couple to her in the past, and believe it she not only listen but implemented the features.

Just saying ...... sometimes and most of the time the squeaky wheel usually gets the grease.