Outdated photos & disappointment questions... should a client have to pay?

[Tiger Woods]

Jules, good thread. I do not attach any motivation to it, it's valid and thought provoking.

Hopefully the topic will move some people to evaluate how they market themselves, and why they market themselves the way they do.

[TonyStark]

What are the chances this thread could evolve into a badass new pic posting party????

[bobcatalpha3-6]

Saw a lady in late 2005 based on pictures in an ad on ASPD. turns out the pictures were several years old at the time. She is still advertising with the same pictures as recently as last month.

It was just a BNG, so I went through with the session anyway.

I really would have loved having a session with the gal in the pictures.

As Ze said, with computers and Hi-res cellphone cams, no excuse not to have news pix every couple of months. But then Ze is a techie, so it is easy for her. (and tripping several times going up a staircase behind her, with that fine derriere in front of you is easy as well) lol

[Iaintliein]

Originally Posted by TonyStark

What are the chances this thread could evolve into a badass new pic posting party????

Great Idea!

Lindsey Lacey from December:





ExoticBabyGirl From December:

[desi.snakes]

Wow...just wow. I get the feeling that Jules has an ulterior motive. Amber's pics are absolutely current and portray her accurately. LLamma69 had NO issue with Woman vs. Pic when he saw us. He actually made a comment that we all looked like our pics, accentuating Amber since he obviously saw the thread. I admit that the old bait n' switch happens too frequently, but not in Amber's case. Amber, you have many, many great reviews...that speaks for itself. Women, especially in this hobby, can be extremely competitive, hurtful, and downright nasty. I say it's time to UNITE and use our WOMAN POWER to help each other, not tear each other down. *smdh*

[bbwhunter]

Originally Posted by desi.snakes

Wow...just wow. I get the feeling that Jules has an ulterior motive. Amber's pics are absolutely current and portray her accurately. LLamma69 had NO issue with Woman vs. Pic when he saw us. He actually made a comment that we all looked like our pics, accentuating Amber since he obviously saw the thread. I admit that the old bait n' switch happens too frequently, but not in Amber's case. Amber, you have many, many great reviews...that speaks for itself. Women, especially in this hobby, can be extremely competitive, hurtful, and downright nasty. I say it's time to UNITE and use our WOMAN POWER to help each other, not tear each other down. *smdh*

Llama let me know what my ultimate hobby experience should be I know that much. :d

[BigEddie]

Originally Posted by desi.snakes

Wow...just wow. I get the feeling that Jules has an ulterior motive. Amber's pics are absolutely current and portray her accurately. LLamma69 had NO issue with Woman vs. Pic when he saw us. He actually made a comment that we all looked like our pics, accentuating Amber since he obviously saw the thread. I admit that the old bait n' switch happens too frequently, but not in Amber's case. Amber, you have many, many great reviews...that speaks for itself. Women, especially in this hobby, can be extremely competitive, hurtful, and downright nasty. I say it's time to UNITE and use our WOMAN POWER to help each other, not tear each other down. *smdh*

This is a good topic of discussion and the OP did not mention Amber. If her pictures are accurate then why would she or you have a problem with this tread? Many providers who posted on this thread felt that the client had a right not to go through with an appointment if he wasn't pleased with the appearance or was otherwise uncomfortable. So it sounds like they are united - united in the belief that good customer service is important.

[eccienewbie]

Originally Posted by TonyStark

What are the chances this thread could evolve into a badass new pic posting party????

Slim, but it's a great idea.

It would be great if all the ladies would post full body pics (sans face) taken within the last 6 months. Shouldn't be a problem, because (as others have implied) that little camera that's included in just about every phone was made to be used. It certainly would bring a lot of speculation to an end about 1 or 2 who seem to have taken this thread personally even though the OP mentioned no names. But continuing to ride with the old photos could have the opposite effect, I suppose....

Now, on with the (slide) show!

[~Ze~]

Originally Posted by tntangie

Seems we have a similar taste in poses. *wink wink* (my new video)

BTW - my girl crush on you is turning into an obsession... maybe you should tone it down a teeny bit so as not to have me stalking you daily.

Originally Posted by bobcatalpha3-6

As Ze said, with computers and Hi-res cellphone cams, no excuse not to have news pix every couple of months. But then Ze is a techie, so it is easy for her. (and tripping several times going up a staircase behind her, with that fine derriere in front of you is easy as well) lol

Hell babe, you can trip up those stairs anytime. KISSES !!!

In today's society, where everyone has a FB account, MS, and how knows how many dating sites, if your ass can't snap a couple of pics after one of those, "I rubbed myself sexy" kindsa showers... then you shouldn't be a fucking hooktard on here. Get yourself a manager that will do all the business side of this for ya.

There is only one woman I know that can actually get away with not having pics.... *sigh* and she will always be a "fucking legend".

[Tiger Woods]

Originally Posted by ~Ze~

There is only one woman I know that can actually get away with not having pics.... *sigh* and she will always be a "fucking legend".

Are you telling us the green space cadet in front of a vending machine isn't you?

<scratching Ze off the list>

[Guest020720]

Originally Posted by TonyStark

What are the chances this thread could evolve into a badass new pic posting party????

These may not be "badass" - but these are new.

And I'm not "scurred" of posting my body.

As a matter of fact, these are from YESTERDAY...at the gym before my five hour long torturous hair appointment (only reason it was torture is because my back is still hurting from the length of time in those chairs).

You can tell this is a "newer, thinner me" than in my previous showcase pics...and you can see I'm in the same shirt I left the gym in...."Batman!"

No, I'm not going to post these on my showcase right now, because someone who isn't following this thread may not understand why the "at the gym" pic would be showcase material.

So, all I did was crop both of them, and use the "cross process" effect and a frame on the second.

No flipping the birdies...simply because I wasn't planning on posting them here...but when I thought about the whole, "how fast you can post an updated picture" idea again, I thought to myself - "Well shit, lookie here...I'm updating you guys right the fuck now! Just over 24 hours ago I changed my look. There you go!" No excuse.

I'll try to post a better "after" pic on my showcase when I have gotten dressed for a day at work or school. Not one having just spent the morning at the gym and the rest of the day in the salon.

The reason I took a somewhat "full body" picture was, again because I'm not scared to claim my 230 pound, size SIXTEEN (not plus size thank you), Six foot, Two inch (6'2") body. I'm proud of it. I don't take nudie pics. (sorry)


Oh! and it is also proof that I actually go to the gym and don't just claim that I go. LOL

So there's my ramble for the day...
Here's the pictures. Enjoy!

[Guest020720]

Originally Posted by BigEddie

So it sounds like they are united - united in the belief that good customer service is important.

EXACTLY!!!

Another thing I will put myself on the line to say.

When I first made an attempt to come back after being gone for quite sometime, I had pictures that were quite a few months older and quite a few pounds thinner than what I was. I had considered coming back in the fall of 2010, but didn't...gained a significant amount of weight over the winter/spring and only had a few cleverly posed photos that didn't really show my true size.

Yes, my weight was correct on my showcase and site (some guys even argued with me that there was NO WAY I weighed what I said I did), and my reviews did state what I looked like, AND I made the disclaimer that the older pics (both from my aspd days and fall 2010) were not actually current...I did let guys know that I was NOT YET comfortable taking "all out" pictures at the size I was at...but guys still reviewed me with comments like, "Not a spinner but not BBW either." At that time, I felt I could have easily have fit the BBW definition. I was wearing a size 20. Even at my height, some may say that is not a BBW...but whatever.

In response to what desi is saying...

Call girls like me a hater all you want. I have talked to Amber in PM's about this as well. I'm not trying to hate, or bash or stir up shit...for pete's sake, I'M PUTTING MY OWN REPUTATION, MY OWN SIZE, MY OWN BODY IMAGE on the fucking line. I'm one of the fattest tall girls on this fucking board....I'm probably one of the slowest as far as how many clients I see. So, take it however the fuck you want to take it. But if you get all butthurt about it - it's not my fucking problem, seriously. People take shit too fucking personal. This really is business and customer service. REALLY.

Guys will say "pics are accurate" meaning, they matched close enough. Think about it...when a cashier asks to look at your driver's license to match it to your credit card - they want to see that it's "close enough" to accept the transaction. Right? That driver's license is good for what, six to ten years in most cases? So...your mister llama...no disrespect intended...was happy enough with the match, to proceed with his transaction. Having you tell us what he thought, therefore both of y'alls pictures must be verifiable enough...so on and so forth...well, I'm sorry...that's not legitimate enough if I were a guy about to go throw down a few benji's. But that's just the way I personally go shopping for pussy. Other guys could be totally different. I tend to think a lot like a typical man...but maybe there are a lot of "not your typical man" men on this board. Call me a bitch if you will for saying that...it is what it is.

[Jules Jaguar]

Originally Posted by BigEddie

This is a good topic of discussion and the OP did not mention Amber. If her pictures are accurate then why would she or you have a problem with this tread? Many providers who posted on this thread felt that the client had a right not to go through with an appointment if he wasn't pleased with the appearance or was otherwise uncomfortable. So it sounds like they are united - united in the belief that good customer service is important.

Exactly, all this chick did was bump the thread after it had already dropped down to the second page and do more to connect it with that chicks latest DRAMA once again. FAIL

I got lots of good feedback from clients and providers I respect on this thread. Those of you who were able to stay on track THANK YOU!

Angie & Ze I heart you both

If u Desi have anything further to say about me feel free contact me directly you will not bait me into receiving more points for speaking the TRUTH.

Hope everyone had a good weekend, I had to work my civi job but managed to squeeze some girls time in after hours

[Guest112916]

MarieAntoinette is a perfect example of old pics that look a lot different than what her body is now. Her pics were why I and others had seen her, but once entering the room and she sat there naked on the bed, lights should have been low cause pics were decieving.

[JohnJohn]

Way too much to say about this thread, but I'll try.

Jules, great thread! I haven't run into this situation yet so I don't honestly know what I would do but the law of averages says that it will happen eventually. Guess I'll find out what I'm made of when it happens. BTW...your pics have always been some of my faves!!

Anastasia Roberts...Your showcase pics are exquisite. Jeezus Girl, can you make me any hotter?!

Angie...Consistently a voice for reason and a breath of fresh air. Your candid, casual and on-the-fly pics make me just want to eat you up! Sending you love on the board until we meet. (Hey, I'm still feeling V-day ripples)

Jamieyoung...Miss your stunning pics. Please bring them back!