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Old 04-07-2020, 10:11 AM   #61
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Cool Not that it's hard to do - but I'm confused

So if GEPOTUS Trump is responsible for the American deaths from the Chinese virus, is he also responsible for the deaths in Chi-i-i-na, Italy, UK and the other 100+ countries? If not, who is?
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:26 AM   #62
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So if GEPOTUS Trump is responsible for the American deaths from the Chinese virus, is he also responsible for the deaths in Chi-i-i-na, Italy, UK and the other 100+ countries? If not, who is?
Pharmaceutical companies. Trace the Flu Vaccine back to the companies that produce it. I am starting to wonder if this Covid19 wasn't something in the Flu vaccine and those that took the vaccine are now sick to various degrees. Those that didn't take the shot will be unaffected. Anything is possible in this world of deception.
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:30 AM   #63
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J is correct - Wuhan virus is spread by coughed or sneezed out respiratory droplets - and can be spread by inhalation or hand to mucous membrane - mouth , nose, eye - contact. Virus may remain viable and infectious on surfaces touched by infected people, or respiratory droplet can come to rest on surfaces touched by people - who transfer virus to the eyes, nose, mouth portall and develop infection. How long virus remains on any one surface varies - but can be more than several hours.

Asymptomatic patients in early phase of disease can be infectious and spread the Wuhan virus 9 and other viruses) - and other viruses - by coughing or sneezing - and may show symptoms later. but not all infected will develop symptoms - some people remain asymptomatic..


yes - i am qualified to comment.
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:52 AM   #64
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Asymptomatic patients in early phase of disease can be infectious and spread the Wuhan virus 9 and other viruses) - and other viruses - by coughing or sneezing - and may show symptoms later. but not all infected will develop symptoms - some people remain asymptomatic..
Yes, there are multiple conditions with limited information concerning the Whuhan strain at this point.

You have not been infected, infected but totally asymptomatic, infected and pre-symptomatic, infected and mildy symptomatic(to the point of not really realizing it yet), symptomatic, and post symptomatic.

At what point and how any of those levels equate to transmittable is still being studied.
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:55 AM   #65
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EL - U just described the natural progression of disease for a viral infection, and many other infections.

True.

Recognize that certain truisms of viral behavior have been studied - and will continue to be studied - since Edward Jenner and the cowpox vaccine.
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Old 04-07-2020, 05:11 PM   #66
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Well what's the transmission methods today? At one point it could not be spread human to human. Then they said you couldn't get it from breathing it in, so no need for a mask. Then you need a mask. Then the virus can live on surfaces for 2 weeks instead of a few days.

...Tomorrow the media's story will be different...except "blame Trump."
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Old 04-07-2020, 05:16 PM   #67
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1. Separate the political agitators from the medical experts - and those political minded folks who think they are medical experts.



2. Research and investigations into a new disease take time - and what is true on week may be superceded by new information shortly. In this era of instant communication to the puiblic.

3. recognize that the central DPST message is "blame Trump" - regardless of Fact and responsibility.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:24 PM   #68
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1. Separate the political agitators from the medical experts - and those political minded folks who think they are medical experts.



2. Research and investigations into a new disease take time - and what is true on week may be superceded by new information shortly. In this era of instant communication to the puiblic.

3. recognize that the central DPST message is "blame Trump" - regardless of Fact and responsibility.
And add to that, like the flu and other viruses, this virus has mutation potential which could change it's mode of transmission.

I was reading last night(will post the article if I get a chance) where there are already two strains of the Wuhan Virus, labeled L and S with like a 30% to 70% ratio of infection right now.

The S strain being the mutated strain with the L strain being the original to infect humans.

So what was spreading in January at first, may not be largely what is spreading today, nor the same as what mutates for tomorrow.
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WTF is the Wuhan virus, imbecile?

You’d mean the Orange Fever?
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:25 PM   #70
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Pharmaceutical companies. Trace the Flu Vaccine back to the companies that produce it. I am starting to wonder if this Covid19 wasn't something in the Flu vaccine and those that took the vaccine are now sick to various degrees. Those that didn't take the shot will be unaffected. Anything is possible in this world of deception.
The tin hat blues...
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Old 04-07-2020, 09:34 PM   #71
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J is correct - Wuhan virus is spread by coughed or sneezed out respiratory droplets - and can be spread by inhalation or hand to mucous membrane - mouth , nose, eye - contact. Virus may remain viable and infectious on surfaces touched by infected people, or respiratory droplet can come to rest on surfaces touched by people - who transfer virus to the eyes, nose, mouth portall and develop infection. How long virus remains on any one surface varies - but can be more than several hours.

Asymptomatic patients in early phase of disease can be infectious and spread the Wuhan virus 9 and other viruses) - and other viruses - by coughing or sneezing - and may show symptoms later. but not all infected will develop symptoms - some people remain asymptomatic..


yes - i am qualified to comment.
You're not as qualified as you think you are. If a Virus isn't a living thing then how can you catch something that isn't alive. A Bacteria, a fungus, Protozoans are living things that can enter the body externally and cause disease. Viruses aren't living things therefore you can't catch a virus. The body produces viruses in response to the bodies level of toxicity. The virus acts as cleansing agent to cellular toxicity. The only way you can catch a virus externally is if it's injected into the body. People should be more concerned about Bacterial Infections not a Virus infection. So forget about this asymptomatic bullshit. If the body isn't overloaded with toxins you're not going to get a virus. I am not worried about getting a virus. I am far more concerned about Bacteria.
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Old 04-08-2020, 11:25 AM   #72
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L17 - u are entitled to your opinion.

Could u please provide references and articles regarding ur opinion.

Enquiring minds would like to know:



L17-Viruses aren't living things therefore you can't catch a virus.

Ever caught a "cold"???


L17-The body produces viruses in response to the bodies level of toxicity. The virus acts as cleansing agent to cellular toxicity.
Please forward your authoritative references to support this statement.



L17The only way you can catch a virus externally is if it's injected into the body
Ever caught a "cold"??? How was the "codl" coronavirus ( most likely viral cause) - injected into Ur body????
Please supply references to support this statement.




L17If the body isn't overloaded with toxins you're not going to get a virus. I am not worried about getting a virus.

Please support this statement with references in support.
I cannot disagree with your statement as to what u R or R not worried about.



L17I am far more concerned about Bacteria.

Evidently True - I suggest One should be concerned with both viral and bacterial diseases.



Unless L17 wishes to go work in an ICU with ventilator dependent Wuhan virus patients. U could certainly clean ventilators and patient tubing "unprotected" and save the nurses and respiratory therapists doing a risky job by performing it for them. Since "viruses cannot infect U without being injected" - no need for PPE's for L17.



Meanwhile - beginning a post with questioning qualifications which U know nothing of - is a Fascist DPST method of avoiding Facts in a debate. U must be going over to the "Dark side"!
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Old 04-08-2020, 08:38 PM   #73
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L-17 - please consider a response. I can promise that If L17 can scientifically Prove his statements mentioned above - he would be well on the way to a medal in Stockholm.
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Yous fuckers get a room, eh!
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WTF is the Wuhan virus, imbecile?

You’d mean the Orange Fever?
Would you prefer the ChiCom virus? The Kung Flu?

I think we should lay the blame at the feet of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) for covering up the bad news for over a month - costing the rest of the world precious time to prepare. They were too concerned about saving face and presenting themselves as super competent. So they covered up the evidence, lied in the international press, and then tried to blame a sports team from the US Army for the start of the disease.

I say let's call it the "CCP Virus".
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