Flynn reverses guilty plea!

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

It depends. See the Rancher case.

The Judge can sanction the Government.

What was held back may sink him even deeper.
This ain't some rancher case.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by bamscram

What was held back may sink him even deeper.
This ain't some rancher case.

Yea, I know. The "Rancher Case" was more serious.

One main reason you're incorrect is: The court order is not about evidence that will "sink him." The recent order is about evidence that will exonerate him or mitigate the allegations against him. I suspect he's seen the Government's "hand" on the other counts. They may hold some cards back, but before any trial they'll have to show them.

My concern would be taking "points off the board." His lawyer(s) would have to be extremely confident on a potential outcome if he withdraws his plea (and the court sets it aside) and the Government goes to trial on the full indictment.

That could be the motivation for the additional order to the Government to "wring out" all the evidence and/or information that might be available to defend himself. So, if there is nothing more to help him he might want to sit tight on his plea. That's "assuming" his plea was not obtained by fraud/deception on the Government's part.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

That could be the motivation for the additional order to the Government to "wring out" all the evidence and/or information that might be available to defend himself. .

This judge gives this additional order to the Government on every case he presides over.

That most judges do not do this does not mean that it is unusual in this case with this judge.

Like Munch said....this is just you and others trying to discredit the FBI by saying something is unusual without adding the proper context.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

This judge gives this additional order to the Government on every case he presides over.

Have you reviewed every case he's "presided over"?

Here, numbnuts, I'll answer it for you! FUCK NO!

You AND MUNCHIE "discredit" yourselves by mouthing off about shit you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! So you dig up some cut and paste that matches what you believe should be consistent with your agenda!

And of ALL THOSE CASES of HIS you reviewed in how many of them was a "standing order" signed by him AFTER A PLEA BARGAIN WAS APPROVED?

BTW: I'll help you out .... if you'll follow some learned advice!

Do you know what a "Standing Order" is? In or out of Federal Court? Seen one?

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Have you reviewed every case he's "presided over"?

Here, numbnuts, I'll answer it for you! FUCK NO!

You AND MUNCHIE "discredit" yourselves by mouthing off about shit you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! So you dig up some cut and paste that matches what you believe should be consistent with your agenda!

And of ALL THOSE CASES of HIS you reviewed in how many of them was a "standing order" signed by him AFTER A PLEA BARGAIN WAS APPROVED?

BTW: I'll help you out .... if you'll follow some learned advice!

Do you know what a "Standing Order" is? In or out of Federal Court? Seen one?

For wtf, a " standing order " is when the GENTE STAND UP whilst " spitroasting " HIM !

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Have you reviewed every case he's "presided over"?

Here, numbnuts, I'll answer it for you! FUCK NO!

God Damn LL, you are doubling down on ignorant as fuck and gay as a rainbow.
This from the OP link.


One of Sullivan’s first orders of business was to enter a standing order, on December 12, 2017, directing “the government to produce to defendant in a timely manner – including during plea negotiations – any evidence in its possession that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.” Sullivan’s standing order further directed the government, if it “has identified any information which is favorable to the defendant but which the government believes not to be material,” to “submit such information to the Court for in camera review.”
Sullivan enters identical standing orders as a matter of course in all of his criminal cases, as he explained in a 2016 Cardozo Law Review article






.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

For wtf, a " standing order " is when the GENTE STAND UP whilst " spitroasting " HIM !

Gay Rey , I know you miss your buddy Lube but can you please play at the Zoo while the grown ups debate.

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Yea, I know. The "Rancher Case" was more serious.

One main reason you're incorrect is: The court order is not about evidence that will "sink him." The recent order is about evidence that will exonerate him or mitigate the allegations against him. I suspect he's seen the Government's "hand" on the other counts. They may hold some cards back, but before any trial they'll have to show them.

My concern would be taking "points off the board." His lawyer(s) would have to be extremely confident on a potential outcome if he withdraws his plea (and the court sets it aside) and the Government goes to trial on the full indictment.

That could be the motivation for the additional order to the Government to "wring out" all the evidence and/or information that might be available to defend himself. So, if there is nothing more to help him he might want to sit tight on his plea. That's "assuming" his plea was not obtained by fraud/deception on the Government's part.

You don't know what all Flynn has told Muller by now. If he plead guilty to one count it maybe to save his or others ass on other infractions.

[Hotrod511]

Originally Posted by WTF

Gay Rey , I know you miss your buddy Lube but can you please play at the Zoo while the grown ups debate.

well I would say that leaves you out of the debate ^^^^^^^

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

God Damn LL, you are doubling down on ignorant as fuck .....

No, but you are! You should have learned YEARS AGO that you seem to consistently get yourself in a dumb situation with your cut and pastes ... But when you start screaming "gay" and posting big gay pics I know you've lost the discussion. You are transparent like that!

You see, you little pukey mental midget, when some dickhead like you starts mouthing off about "court orders" and what are in them, what do you think I do?

I get the COURT ORDERS! (Did you see that? "ORDERS" As in PLURAL!!!

Judge Sullivan signed an "ORDER" on "December 12, 2017"!

Not a "STANDING ORDER" ... an "ORDER"! It was three pages LONG!

Then JUDGE SULLIVAN signed an "ORDER" on February 16, 2018"!

Not a "STANDING ORDER" ... an "ORDER" Four pages LONG!

4-3=1 ADDITIONAL PAGE!!!!

So, if as you claim through your bullshit article, he signs one in EVERY CASE ... it would be the same LENGTH because you claim it is a "STANDING ORDER"! Which it is not .. because IT'S not labeled as such AND the SECOND ORDER IS NOT THE SAME AS THE FIRST AND IS THEREFORE ... NOT "STANDARD"!

Does the big guy in your photo album let you nibble on his dick?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by bamscram

You don't know what all Flynn has told Muller by now. If he plead guilty to one count it maybe to save his or others ass on other infractions.

You're correct.

And likewise you don't know what he HASN'T TOLD HIM!

Have you seen FLYNN'S plea bargain agreement?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

God Damn LL, you are doubling down on ignorant as fuck and gay as a rainbow.
This from the OP link.


One of Sullivan’s first orders of business was to enter a standing order, on December 12, 2017, directing “the government to produce to defendant in a timely manner – including during plea negotiations – any evidence in its possession that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.” Sullivan’s standing order further directed the government, if it “has identified any information which is favorable to the defendant but which the government believes not to be material,” to “submit such information to the Court for in camera review.”
Sullivan enters identical standing orders as a matter of course in all of his criminal cases, as he explained in a 2016 Cardozo Law Review article

Originally Posted by Hotrod511

well I would say that leaves you out of the debate ^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by LexusLover

No, but you are! You should have learned YEARS AGO that you seem to consistently get yourself in a dumb situation with your cut and pastes ... But when you start screaming "gay" and posting big gay pics I know you've lost the discussion. You are transparent like that!

You see, you little pukey mental midget, when some dickhead like you starts mouthing off about "court orders" and what are in them, what do you think I do?

I get the COURT ORDERS! (Did you see that? "ORDERS" As in PLURAL!!!

Judge Sullivan signed an "ORDER" on "December 12, 2017"!

Not a "STANDING ORDER" ... an "ORDER"! It was three pages LONG!

Then JUDGE SULLIVAN signed an "ORDER" on February 16, 2018"!

Not a "STANDING ORDER" ... an "ORDER" Four pages LONG!

4-3=1 ADDITIONAL PAGE!!!!

So, if as you claim through your bullshit article, he signs one in EVERY CASE ... it would be the same LENGTH because you claim it is a "STANDING ORDER"! Which it is not .. because IT'S not labeled as such AND the SECOND ORDER IS NOT THE SAME AS THE FIRST AND IS THEREFORE ... NOT "STANDARD"!

Does the big guy in your photo album let you nibble on his dick?

I went ahead and linked this little exchange with copies of your fucked up post, because having seen you "operate" on the hooker boards you start changing what you previously posted when you start losing your ass in a discussion.

In case you hadn't figured it out ... you just lost your ass!

Two nonidentical documents are not "standard"!!!! You dumbshit!

Now go to the big rainbow guy and play with your buddy Munchie!

He needs to sober up.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by Hotrod511

well I would say that leaves you out of the debate ^^^^^^^

He confuses " debate " with " masturbate " to describe what HE does here !

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

He confuses " debate " with " masturbate " to describe what HE does here !

That would probably explain WTF's obsession with all things GAY!

Has he just completely given up on hetrosexual relations now?

That's sad. Should be some therapy for that or something.

First thing you know, he'll be on a "no firearm" list for having mental problems ....

.... Illness diagnosis: "Hetrosexually Challenged" !!!!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Two nonidentical documents are not "standard"!!!! You dumbshit!

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Originally Posted by WTF

One of Sullivan’s first orders of business was to enter a standing order, on December 12, 2017, directing “the government to produce to defendant in a timely manner – including during plea negotiations – any evidence in its possession that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.” Sullivan’s standing order further directed the government, if it “has identified any information which is favorable to the defendant but which the government believes not to be material,” to “submit such information to the Court for in camera review.”
Sullivan enters identical standing orders as a matter of course in all of his criminal cases, as he explained in a 2016 Cardozo Law Review article
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I believe the Judge over you.