US politics circa 2011

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Sisyphus

to actually trying to accomplish something positive in the meantime...

. . . but that is positive.

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

. . . but that is positive.

Hmm, unemployment and deficits are positive?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

Hmm, unemployment and deficits are positive?

I cannot see that the policies of the present administration have helped the situation, and I would like a change.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by Sisyphus

Absolutely NOTHING...or...Rome burns....take your pick....

Well the fallacy there is thinking that Congress can actually do anything to improve the economy -- other than get rid of crap like that POS.

The government doesnt create wealth -- it just redistributes it and takes a heavy toll in doing so.

Lets hear it for gridlock!

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Lets hear it for gridlock!

When the party one favors can't control ALL the roads...absolutely! My studies of the Constitution & the Federalist Papers has lead me to conclude that this is ABSOLUTELY what the Founding Politicians had in mind.

All of which has led me to my oft-voiced opinion...a pox on BOTH party's houses. We create institutions that are STACKED in favor of nothing getting done...then we bitch about nothing being done.

In my not so humble opinion, all who do so are cordially invited to go fuck themselves!

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by Sisyphus

In my not so humble opinion, all who do so are cordially invited to go fuck themselves!

Nah, time to get out my bucket list lol

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

Nah, time to get out my bucket list lol

If that's the same as the "who would you do?" list...I'm in!! Infinitely more entertaining & more satisfying to boot! This shit just gives me a headache...

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by Sisyphus

! This shit just gives me a headache...

Bad idea when you have a bucket list lol

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by Sisyphus

All of which has led me to my oft-voiced opinion...a pox on BOTH party's houses. We create institutions that are STACKED in favor of nothing getting done...then we bitch about nothing being done.

In my not so humble opinion, all who do so are cordially invited to go fuck themselves!

Now wait a minute. In 15 some years posting on the net, have you EVER heard me bitch about the government NOT doing something?

[discreetgent]

Ever?

[pjorourke]

Ever!

Obviously, this doesn't include stopping doing something stupid that they are already doing.

[discreetgent]

Pity can't get to the ASPD stuff going back 5-6 years.

[pjorourke]

Trust me on this one. I'll still respect you in the morning.

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Well the fallacy there is thinking that Congress can actually do anything to improve the economy -- other than get rid of crap like that POS.

The government doesnt create wealth -- it just redistributes it and takes a heavy toll in doing so.

Sorry, PJ, got side-tracked. My bad!

I - and I can only speak for me - have never believed it was government's function to CREATE wealth. It can't...at least not very efficiently. All it can do is participate in creating an environment where wealth creation is more likely to occur.

OTOH, government DOES have a role to play in redistributing wealth where appropriate. Sorry, I don't think "redistribute" is a dirty word per sea. If government had a hand - albeit an indirect one - in creating the environment in which the wealth was created, it does get some say in where it ultimately resides. To my way of thinking...it is the "where & when" that's appropriate is what all the fussing & fighting is about! One of the more effective definitions of politics I've seen is, "...the art of deciding who gets what, when & how."

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Now wait a minute. In 15 some years posting on the net, have you EVER heard me bitch about the government NOT doing something?

Originally Posted by discreetgent

Ever?

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Ever!

Obviously, this doesn't include stopping doing something stupid that they are already doing.

GMAO....don't make me pull your card!

IF - and that's a mighty BIG if - that's true...good on you for at least being intellectually consistent!! Pity you're being asked to carry water for those that are not.