Dr. Ben Carson another Tea Party Hypocrite

[IIFFOFRDB]

Soulless fucks making excuses...

[WTF]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Soulless fucks making excuses...

Dr. Carson is the one making excuses for he and his mother taking from the government. Like he deserved it ...while others do not.

Look, he is an example of why you help people down on their luck. That is wtf some of you numb nuts are not understanding. Government investing in education is a wise investment. To study , you may need not be hungry....thus Food Stamps. Which is what he admitted helped him. Damn.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by WTF

Dr. Carson is the one making excuses for he and his mother taking from the government. Like he deserved it ...while others do not.

Look, he is an example of why you help people down on their luck. That is wtf some of you numb nuts are not understanding. Government investing in education is a wise investment. To study , you may need not be hungry....thus Food Stamps. Which is what he admitted helped him. Damn.

You should back out quietly... You are making a ass of yourself.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Soulless fucks making excuses...

Really?

So at what level of education does one lose his soul, SLOBBRIN?

Fifth grade? For the first time?

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by WTF

Dr. Carson is the one making excuses for he and his mother taking from the government. Like he deserved it ...while others do not.

You're lying. When did he say that? Post a link, asshole, or STFU.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

You should back out quietly... You are making a ass of yourself.

No, let the WTF the moronic buffoon post more! It's hilarious! I'm waiting for him to tie Dr Carson the the Ebola outbreak in this country.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You're lying. When did he say that? Post a link, asshole, or STFU.

If he could not post "what other people are thinking" or his "deliberate(?) misinterpretation of what other's post", WTF's tiny toolkit would be cut in half.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by blackmaleindallas

Blacks migrated to the Decmocratic party circa 1964 when the Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for president, as he was anti Civil Rights Act of 1964/pro "states rights"; blacks migrated to the Democratic party and southern white "dixiecrats" migrated to Republican party since "states rights" have always kinda been a big deal in the south; see the Civil War..lol Replublicans like to ignore history and claim the Democrats were "the real racists" but don't tell the whole story about the double migration of 1964 and why it occurred.

Ben Carson has been on my radar since 1996 so he's not new to me, and I've been following Mia Love since 2009-2010; My problem with them is not that they are republicans but that they are hypocrites and promote ideas that don't stand up to the lowest level of scrutiny.

Both of them, like many successful people in America, benefited from various government programs and turned out ok. Government programs aren't evil by nature and if they were honest about this and instead talked about how to make the programs better, they'd win far more votes and be taken more seriously.

So you don't remember Herman Cain but you remember what happened 50 years ago....kinda...something about Barry Goldwater and states rights. Do you want to go back 150 years to the Emancipation Proclamation or have the Democrats rendered that too inconvenient?

Priceless.

How do we make the programs better? I'm not a member of the TEA party (whatever it is) but one of the problems I see that Herman Cain's mom didn't perpetuate was having 7 kids with 5 different fathers. The working public is tired of supporting that shit.

[boardman]

Originally Posted by WTF

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So now you're touting the virtues and contributions of the massive military industrial complex? Have you changed your mind about being a war monger or are you just a hypocrite?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by boardman

So now you're touting the virtues and contributions of the massive military industrial complex? Have you changed your mind about being a war monger or are you just a hypocrite?

The question have never been whether the Vast Industrial Military Complex or Welfare give us a return on investment , it has been at what cost?

My position has always been that we in fact do pay a specific tax for one and in fact that side of the ledger has stayed for the most part in the black the same can not be said about the other. Should we dedicate a specific tax for the Vast Industrial Military Complex? I think so. I think it criminal that we combined SS/Medicare with the general budget. I believe LBJ did it to hide the escalating costs of Vietnam.

Were we to basically balance the budget on the on military spending like we have on social spending and have the ignorant masses see wtf it really costs then the discussions would be on how we pay for it by not touching the social side.

What do you think the discussion would be like if we had a dedicated tax to military spending that ran a surplus and the social side of the aisle took it and left and IOU and then blamed the military for out of control spending!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You're lying. When did he say that? Post a link, asshole, or STFU.

From his own lips COG. Here is Dr. Carson making excuses for why it was ok for he and his Mom to receive welfare. Now you owe me an apology or how about you just STFU and I'll settle for that!

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/we...n-deserved-his
Let's see why Ben Carson believes his welfare assistance was justified which makes him a principled Conservative and your government assistance makes you a losing moocher.

Carson has an excuse as to why the situation with his mother is completely different from the situations with everyone else currently on welfare:

It’s hard not to see Carson’s own upbringing coming into view here. He grew up in meager surroundings in Detroit and Boston, in a family that made use of public assistance programs like food stamps. The culture was different then, Carson insists. “I think there was a time when people were not proud of taking handouts,” he said. “There were more people who did have that drive and determination. You do what you have to do."

[boardman]

Originally Posted by WTF

The question have never been whether the Vast Industrial Military Complex or Welfare give us a return on investment , it has been at what cost?

My position has always been that we in fact do pay a specific tax for one and in fact that side of the ledger has stayed for the most part in the black the same can not be said about the other. Should we dedicate a specific tax for the Vast Industrial Military Complex? I think so. I think it criminal that we combined SS/Medicare with the general budget. I believe LBJ did it to hide the escalating costs of Vietnam.

Were we to basically balance the budget on the on military spending like we have on social spending and have the ignorant masses see wtf it really costs then the discussions would be on how we pay for it by not touching the social side.

What do you think the discussion would be like if we had a dedicated tax to military spending that ran a surplus and the social side of the aisle took it and left and IOU and then blamed the military for out of control spending!

No disagreement from me.

[boardman]

Originally Posted by WTF

From his own lips COG. Here is Dr. Carson making excuses for why it was ok for he and his Mom to receive welfare. Now you owe me an apology or how about you just STFU and I'll settle for that!

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/we...n-deserved-his
Let's see why Ben Carson believes his welfare assistance was justified which makes him a principled Conservative and your government assistance makes you a losing moocher.

Carson has an excuse as to why the situation with his mother is completely different from the situations with everyone else currently on welfare:

It’s hard not to see Carson’s own upbringing coming into view here. He grew up in meager surroundings in Detroit and Boston, in a family that made use of public assistance programs like food stamps. The culture was different then, Carson insists. “I think there was a time when people were not proud of taking handouts,” he said. “There were more people who did have that drive and determination. You do what you have to do."

Here is what he said:
When you rob someone of their incentive to go out there and improve themselves, you are not doing them any favors. When you take somebody and pat them on the head and say, ‘There, there, you poor little thing. … Let me give you housing subsidies, let me give you free health care because you can’t do that.’ What would be much more empowering is to use our intellect and our resources to give those people a way up and out.”

The article is an OP-Ed spinning that into something negative for political purposes.

I don't see anything in that statement or any of his other statements where Carson says Welfare is bad. Just the opposite is what I read into it. What I also see is that he seems to believe, like Clinton, that welfare should be a hand up not a hand out and that way too many people capable of contributing to society have decided that the easier route is to take from society and that is the part that needs to be addressed.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by boardman

Here is what he said:
When you rob someone of their incentive to go out there and improve themselves, you are not doing them any favors. When you take somebody and pat them on the head and say, ‘There, there, you poor little thing. … Let me give you housing subsidies, let me give you free health care because you can’t do that.’ What would be much more empowering is to use our intellect and our resources to give those people a way up and out.”

The article is an OP-Ed spinning that into something negative for political purposes.

I don't see anything in that statement or any of his other statements where Carson says Welfare is bad. Just the opposite is what I read into it. What I also see is that he seems to believe, like Clinton, that welfare should be a hand up not a hand out and that way too many people capable of contributing to society have decided that the easier route is to take from society and that is the part that needs to be addressed.

I was asked by COG when did Dr. Carson make an excuse for taking government handouts.

“I think there was a time when people were not proud of taking handouts,” he said. “There were more people who did have that drive and determination. You do what you have to do."

The above quote sure looked like an excuse to me.

Somebody has to be in the business of determining the difference between a hand up and a hand out. All Carson is doing IMHO are cute sound bytes.

[boardman]

Originally Posted by WTF

I was asked by COG when did Dr. Carson make an excuse for taking government handouts.

“I think there was a time when people were not proud of taking handouts,” he said. “There were more people who did have that drive and determination. You do what you have to do."

The above quote sure looked like an excuse to me.

Somebody has to be in the business of determining the difference between a hand up and a hand out. All Carson is doing IMHO are cute sound bytes.

Fair enough...We see it different ways.

I think Clinton and Congress did determine what was a hand up and what was a hand out. More than two years was no longer a hand up.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by boardman

Fair enough...We see it different ways.

I think Clinton and Congress did determine what was a hand up and what was a hand out. More than two years was no longer a hand up.

How long was Carson and family on welfare/food stamps?

This from his own book...By the time I reached ninth grade...is not definitive but I think you'd agree , it leads one to believe that it was longer than two years. Is local Charity the answer after two years? If so, why not from jump street?


Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could barely see. Not only that, in “Gifted Hands” we read this nugget: “By the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she received nothing but food stamps. She couldn’t have provided for us and kept up the house without that subsidy.”
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