TRUE GFE POLL. Provider/Hobbyist

[London Rayne]

I agree with that as well. How many times have we seen BAD reviews from girls who did everything under the sun, but they were robotic and distant...i.e. TV was on, didn't look at them, just went through every motion and position like an acrobatic monkey lol.

Bottom line is most guys want it all, but few want to pay a premium for it...that's where I have an issue. For any less than what I charge I would not be doing what I do...period! They want to pick a bargain basement escort then bit*h that she was not at the Ritz, did not provide gfe, and her pimp was outside lol. Well if her rate can't even cover the room what did you expect lol.

[China Doll]

I will disagree that we need to pay attention to what the majority wants. Maybe some people do, but my clients are very happy with what I claim to be and what I provide, and according to the poll, they are not in the majority. [shrugs]

This business doesn't always work the way other businesses do. So many girls get away with ripping guys off because they can. There will always be more guys who are willing to pay. Is this unfortunate? Yep. Does that mean that the ladies shouldn't try to provide the best experience possible? Goodness, no! But does it mean that someone like myself can provide what I do and consider myself the GFE? Apparently yes.

[London Rayne]

The thing is China it is a business of competition, and those who offer what more men want at a fair rate will get more business. Now if you are like me, you probably don't want a ton of clients so it is of no consequence to you what the majority wants. If I catered to the majority I would be in the hospital lol.

I have never been one to let anyone dictate what I should provide, what I should charge, or who I should see....you seem to be the same way, and don't change for anyone. If you turn into a provider who only does things to please others yet makes you uncomfortable, that is NOT gfe lol.

[China Doll]

I definitely don't view this business as a competitive one. The services are different for each lady. Perhaps I am making the same mistake as before in thinking that upstate NY is representative of the hobby. You're right, though, London, that it must make a difference for us because we don't want a ton of clients. If I were seeing 20 clients a week instead of 5, I might have to change something to get that many requests!

[London Rayne]

Amen sista! I plan to visit your area as I have heard it is beautiful and that I would do very well there. I have a friend in Minnesota who only offers fetish and cbj and makes my rate with no fs at all. I went up for a week and totally bombed with all I offer...it really does depend on area.

[KlassyKelliAnn]

Originally Posted by burkalini

While I appreciate all the input the reality is GFE should include the services according to the poll. That's just the reality of it. I know the business will continue as it is now but if you want to know what the majority wants then you need to pay attention.

Umm, excuse me....but NO. Definately not!

I respect your OPINION, everyone has one including myself. But this poll or any other one for that matter, does not and will never dictate what happens to MY body. EVER. I say what, where, when, who! Only ME. No one else. Yeah polls like this are great. I like them, reading them, taking part in them, respecting the opinions and thoughts of others, etc. And I do. But that being said, just because the MAJORITY wants A doesnt mean they will get A. For example: Alot of men out there in the world want BBFS- does that mean if they became the majority- that we as providers MUST listen, pay attention and DO IT? I think NOT!

GFE means alot of things to alot of different people. There may be providers who dont like DFK so they offer LFK in their GFE menu. They are still GFE providers nonetheless. If I dont like DATY and that is what a guy expects- he should make certain to read what GFE types of services I offer first. Just because some men might like DATY doesnt mean they all will and the same goes for the recieving end with the ladies- not all will like it and so they wont offer it- it is THEIR "S O L E" choice. No "majority" will ever dictate NOR SHOULD IT, what a woman should or will do with her own body. Period.


Been in this biz more than 10 years and I know what the majority wants and I cater to alot of it- but I have my restrictions. While I respect your thoughts on GFE, I also have mine and I take offense to how you tell me I should pay attention to what the majority wants. Doesnt mean they will get what they want. Hell the majority of the poplulation in the US wants a free ride- they voted- didnt get it- and now half of them have been voted out. Yeah, that worked well.

KKA

[London Rayne]

Yea really. Now why don't we just do a poll that dictates how much we should charge lmao. That should go over quite well, and I am sure we will all be running to pay attention.

Thank God I have other income that allows me to do what I want instead of what the market dictates, or I would have long since been done with this so called fantasy world.

For the record I have NEVER offered the service of allowing some guy to jam his tongue down my throat with no skill at all or slobber all over my face (also known as DFK to a certain age range lol), and I have NEVER had a review that said I was not GFE. Food for thought.

Maybe it's the genuine conversation, laughter, or toe curling bbbjcim that makes them forget I didn't play tonsil hockey, but I don't think DFK has anything to do with GFE. That is NOT how any man I have ever dated kisses lol, nor is it how the majority of ladies kiss. It is LFK period. I have not had a DFK since I was 12 and the guy had no clue what he was doing....keep that crap!

[Guest110911]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

That is NOT how any man I have ever dated kisses lol, nor is it how the majority of ladies kiss. It is LFK period. I have not had a DFK since I was 12 and the guy had no clue what he was doing....keep that crap!

for reals! im just fine without the DFK...but then again...i didnt know DFK had to do the 'depth' of the tongue...i thought it was just a more prolonged, or passionate LFK...but what do i know. someone sticks thier tonge to far down my throat...im might puke on them.

[London Rayne]

Yes Bubba that's just fine, but most men consider DFK exactly how I described, so I just kiss them like I normally kiss and have never had an issue with being told I was not GFE. A skilled kisser surpasses tongue depth and slobber every time lol.

[Guest110911]

its probly the same guys that also hope she offers CIM....with 5 guys right before he got there

[China Doll]

Originally Posted by KlassyKelliAnn

No "majority" will ever dictate NOR SHOULD IT, what a woman should or will do with her own body. Period.

Thank you.

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by bubbaJay

its probly the same guys that also hope she offers CIM....with 5 guys right before he got there

EWWW thanks for the visual...DELETED!

I have never seen more than 2 in a day and even that I find a bit much for my body to handle. Of course if ALL I was doing was bbbj, bring it one lmao!

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by KlassyKelliAnn

Umm, excuse me....but NO. Definately not!

I respect your OPINION, everyone has one including myself. But this poll or any other one for that matter, does not and will never dictate what happens to MY body. EVER. I say what, where, when, who! Only ME. No one else. Yeah polls like this are great. I like them, reading them, taking part in them, respecting the opinions and thoughts of others, etc. And I do. But that being said, just because the MAJORITY wants A doesnt mean they will get A. For example: Alot of men out there in the world want BBFS- does that mean if they became the majority- that we as providers MUST listen, pay attention and DO IT? I think NOT!

GFE means alot of things to alot of different people. There may be providers who dont like DFK so they offer LFK in their GFE menu. They are still GFE providers nonetheless. If I dont like DATY and that is what a guy expects- he should make certain to read what GFE types of services I offer first. Just because some men might like DATY doesnt mean they all will and the same goes for the recieving end with the ladies- not all will like it and so they wont offer it- it is THEIR "S O L E" choice. No "majority" will ever dictate NOR SHOULD IT, what a woman should or will do with her own body. Period.


Been in this biz more than 10 years and I know what the majority wants and I cater to alot of it- but I have my restrictions. While I respect your thoughts on GFE, I also have mine and I take offense to how you tell me I should pay attention to what the majority wants. Doesnt mean they will get what they want. Hell the majority of the poplulation in the US wants a free ride- they voted- didnt get it- and now half of them have been voted out. Yeah, that worked well.

KKA

If you have read all the threads I have put on this subject you will see that I said no one should ever do anything that they are uncomfortable with. The thread was a poll. Simple enough. If you choose not to abide by what the majority wants thats no issue. The thread was what is GFE by definition. The majority of respondants said it was fantasy connection and a list of services. That was plain and simple. It didn't say because the poll says this you HAVE to follow. It did say that most hobbyist view GFE as the following. It didn't say all providers must follow these views. When I said pay attention I was merely pointing out what the majority said GFE was. If you choose otherwise, Hey it's America and as you pointed out we don't always choose wisely but to prove my point we do choose.

I never said you should or have to do anything. Heres a copy from that thread.

I know the business will continue as it is now but if you want to know what the majority wants then you need to pay attention.

[Guest110911]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

EWWW thanks for the visual...DELETED!

I have never seen more than 2 in a day and even that I find a bit much for my body to handle. Of course if ALL I was doing was bbbj, bring it one lmao!

ooooooooh i bet that body would handle it just fine

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by bubbaJay

ooooooooh i bet that body would handle it just fine

That was supposed to say "bring it on" not "one" lmao!!