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WTF · 11-27-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackie S

The President is about to go to war with GM.

Wow Harley Davidson , Carrier and now GM.

I wish he would grow a spine with the Saudis and Russians if he really wanted to protect this countries interest instead of just him families.

themystic · 11-27-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WTF

Wow Harley Davidson , Carrier and now GM.

I wish he would grow a spine with the Saudis and Russians of he really wanted to protect this countries interest instead of just him families.

The Presidents personal business interests. His fan base is too stupid or actually wants to live under an autocratic dictator. Have you noticed how man deplorables defend Mr. & Mrs. Vladimir Putin, Kim, the Saudi Family over the USA?

WTF · 11-27-2018, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by themystic

The Presidents personal business interests. His fan base is too stupid or actually wants to live under an autocratic dictator. Have you noticed how man deplorables defend Mr. & Mrs. Vladimir Putin, Kim, the Saudi Family over the USA?

Why do they not want to see his tax returns and see if his business interest may conflict with tje country's interests?

That is wtf I do not understand about his followers.

I want to see if there is any correlation betwern donations/ business with Trump properties and policy. Trump properties can be used just like the Clinton Foundation was used. That is what is rotten about politics. Our righties got it correct on Clinton but have totally dropped the ball on Trump.

themystic · 11-27-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WTF

Why do they not want to see his tax returns and see if his business interest may conflict with tje country's interests?

That is wtf I do not understand about his followers.

I want to see if there is any correlation betwern donations/ business with Trump properties and policy. Trump properties can be used just like the Clinton Foundation was used. That is what is rotten about politics. Our righties got it correct on Clinton but have totally dropped the ball on Trump.

I agree. Even the liberals admitted the Clintons were crooks. There have been several studies that most Trump followers want to live under an autocrat. I've read several. Just the people on this board make me believe that

friendly fred · 11-28-2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I earlier responded to Fred on this subject. In October of this year oil prices hit a 4 year high. When Trump took office the price of oil was about $54 a barrel. On October 5th the price was $75 a barrel. It is now $52.

So explain to me how Trump kept oil prices low.

Oil prices were a much higher average when Obama was President. One or two price points are not significant.

Trump lowered the price of oil temporarily by pressuring the Saudi's, but they cannot afford to keep it low, so they are going to cut at the next OPEC meeting, which should increase the price, but still to a lower average than Obama, who actively hated the oil business, creating artificial scarcity and higher prices than Trump.

friendly fred · 11-28-2018, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by themystic

I agree. Even the liberals admitted the Clintons were crooks. There have been several studies that most Trump followers want to live under an autocrat. I've read several. Just the people on this board make me believe that

It depends on the autocrat. If the autocrat crushed liberals, eliminated affirmative action/diversity, kept taxes low, stopped immigration of poor and unskilled labor, praised gun ownership, supported the police, legalized prostitution, built up American manufacturing, killed businessmen who called employees contractors in a bad faith effort to avoid taxes, and changed the name on every government building named after a liberal, then I would be OK with it.

If it were a liberal autocrat, I would be opposed.

However, if the liberal autocrat legalized polygamy, I would be OK with it.

Wakeup · 11-28-2018, 06:16 AM

Get back on topic...

dilbert firestorm · 11-28-2018, 10:40 PM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...rs/2116833002/

Why GM CEO Mary Barra killed Chevrolet cars, approved likely plant closures

R.M. · 11-29-2018, 04:43 AM

The only good thing I have seen GM do is pay the bail out money back ahead of schedule.

Maybe if they wouldn't make such a shitty product they wouldn't have this cut back.

I was raised to drive GM. My first muscle car was a red Camaro and then a silver one.

Now never would I buy them. I bought German this year. Those seat warmers are the shit.

WTF · 11-29-2018, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by R.M.

The only good thing I have seen GM do is pay the bail out money back ahead of schedule.

Maybe if they wouldn't make such a shitty product they wouldn't have this cut back.

I was raised to drive GM. My first muscle car was a red Camaro and then a silver one.

Now never would I buy them. I bought German this year. Those seat warmers are the shit.

Their Corvette is badass. Their trucks/suv's are great.

I've actually heatd nothing but good things about the Volt.

Their Caddy products are well built.

Many of you seem to hate what Trump says hate.

I guess Harley Davidson is a shitty company too.

R.M. · 11-29-2018, 05:47 AM

Not a Corvette fan, but I don't hate them either.
Now Harley Davidson never a shitty product.
I'm just saying I have lost my GM appeal. Ford sucks ass. The only good product they make is a work truck.

WTF · 11-29-2018, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by R.M.

Not a Corvette fan, but I don't hate them either.
Now Harley Davidson never a shitty product.
I'm just saying I have lost my GM appeal. Ford sucks ass. The only good product they make is a work truck.

That high performance engine chevy make is a marvel

Harley were shitty for a long time...I have a Soft tail, nice bike. Trump is pissed at Harley like is is GM and those companies are just doing what is best for their bottom line.

Budman · 11-29-2018, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

So when oil prices hit a 4 year high on October 5th that must have been due to Trump too. Oil prices today are about $2 less than they were when Trump took office.

For the majority of Trump's almost 2 years in office oil prices have been higher than when he took office. In the last year much higher.

If this is true then how can low oil prices be the root cause of the GM plant closings. It seems WTF is advocating for higher gas prices.

Bottom line is the plants that are closing built cars nobody wants. Without the tax credit for electric cars they would have stopped building these cars long ago.

rexdutchman · 11-29-2018, 08:30 AM

Root cause and effect is GM has for years been push the electric car thing and cars nobody wants= poor sales ^^^ and living off the govs electric car funding
I agree with Dumper after the bail outs now closing factories here not in other counties ??????????????

R.M. · 11-30-2018, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF

That high performance engine chevy make is a marvel

Harley were shitty for a long time...I have a Soft tail, nice bike. Trump is pissed at Harley like is is GM and those companies are just doing what is best for their bottom line.

They are doing what they think is best for their companies. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.