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Old 09-05-2017, 01:17 PM   #61
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If punish a whole group of people for one persons act...we would disband the Police and Military.
That's funny you and others seem to bash any trump supporter as KKK/Neo nazis all the time cause of what some trump supporters did..

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I support DACA. Kid gets raised in this country and knows no other way....we as a society do not reje t them because their parents were trying to provide them a better life.
So you support illegal activity, cause they were 'trying to better their life'.. and in essence want amnesty for them all..

SO WHY NOT do away with any border, DO away with INS, Citizenship tests etc. JUST open the entire country up to ANYONE who feels they have a right to come here?

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If Trump pardoned them like he did Sheriff Joe Arpaio , then would they be within the framework of the law?
THe power of the Presidential pardon though, ONLY APPLIES to individual folk. NOT A mass group of people. SO if he was to even try, he would have to pardon EVERYONE of the 680 THOUSAND illegal invaders. AND EXACTLY what would that do? Would it discourage more coming here? NO in fact it would EMBOLDEN EVERY OTHER country to send their kids here, in the hope more bleeding heart liberals like you would raise such a shit storm, that we yet again get a mass amnesty like happned under Reagan..

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And I've already told you why. Their parents brought them here. This is the only country they know. It is their country too.
NO ITS NOT their bloody country. THEY ARE STILL citizens of a foreign nation, thus OWE allegiance to that country..

[QUOTE=LexusLover;1059935533 Congress had "fix it."[/QUOTE]

BUT That's the thing. OUR IMMIGRATION system is not broken. WHAT IS BROKEN IS THE proper enforcement of our immigration laws..
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Old 09-05-2017, 02:45 PM   #62
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Fact is Obama's "Dreamer" act did not pass congress, so Obummer did a unconstitutional end run around congress and tried to change our immigration laws himself. As president he does not have the power to do that, and the courts told him so.
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Old 09-05-2017, 03:00 PM   #63
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Well wtf is Trump and Congress waiting on. The GOP is in total power. You fuckers act as if Obama is still President!




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Old 09-05-2017, 03:13 PM   #64
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Ship em on back! Time to significantly cut back on legal immigration too!
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:36 PM   #65
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ship the dreamers back... like I said... we've no business taking them in as they have no american parents.

keeping them here is basically rewarding their parents for their illegality.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:25 PM   #66
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That's funny you and others seem to bash any trump supporter as KKK/Neo nazis all the time cause of what some trump supporters did..



So you support illegal activity, cause they were 'trying to better their life'.. and in essence want amnesty for them all..

SO WHY NOT do away with any border, DO away with INS, Citizenship tests etc. JUST open the entire country up to ANYONE who feels they have a right to come here?



THe power of the Presidential pardon though, ONLY APPLIES to individual folk. NOT A mass group of people. SO if he was to even try, he would have to pardon EVERYONE of the 680 THOUSAND illegal invaders. AND EXACTLY what would that do? Would it discourage more coming here? NO in fact it would EMBOLDEN EVERY OTHER country to send their kids here, in the hope more bleeding heart liberals like you would raise such a shit storm, that we yet again get a mass amnesty like happned under Reagan..



NO ITS NOT their bloody country. THEY ARE STILL citizens of a foreign nation, thus OWE allegiance to that country..



BUT That's the thing. OUR IMMIGRATION system is not broken. WHAT IS BROKEN IS THE proper enforcement of our immigration laws..
HUNKER DOWN BUNKER CLOWN!

Maybe you can find salve in a 4-year-old thread or two!
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Old 09-06-2017, 06:45 AM   #67
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So you support illegal activity, cause they were 'trying to better their life'.. and in essence want amnesty for them all..

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Dreamers did not break the law. They did nothing illegal.
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Funny. The ones who are bitching the most about the end of DACA would be screaming bloody murder if Trump started doing what Obama did (making law where law does not exist). Congress makes law. Not the President.

Those who live by executive order shall die by executive order.
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:00 AM   #69
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Dreamers did not break the law. They did nothing illegal.
yes they did. identity theft.
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yes they did. identity theft.

Really....800,000 thousand Dreamers stole identies?


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Funny. The ones who are bitching the most about the end of DACA would be screaming bloody murder if Trump started doing what Obama did (making law where law does not exist). Congress makes law. Not the President.

Those who live by executive order shall die by executive order.
Sheriff Joe aparo and his rule of law supporters are no different than democrats if that was your point.


Why hasn't Trump rounded them up then... what is taking so long?

Is he using them to get his wall?
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Sheriff Joe aparo and his rule of law supporters are no different than democrats if that was your point.


Why hasn't Trump rounded them up then... what is taking so long?

Is he using them to get his wall?
You are pretty stupid. 12 states were going to bring DACA to court this month. They would have won. If that happened, existing law would have had to be enforced. Meaning dreamers would have had to go. Trump did them a favor by forcing Congress to enact a law that's permanent. Ryan and McConnell do not want to send the dreamers back. Trump doesn't want to either. If this was soooo important to Obama, he would have sent it to Congress when the Dems had control. Be he didn't. He said himself that his EO was unconstitutional and temporary. Just another turd he left for Trump to flush you ignoramus.
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Twitler -- AGAIN -- is absolving himself of any responsibility for problem solving.

At least today.

Tomorrow, we'll have another storm. I wonder what shoes Melanianoma will wear?
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This morning Trump Tweeted that Congress has 6 months to fix the issue and implied that if they don't he will do exactly what Obama did.
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This morning Trump Tweeted that Congress has 6 months to fix the issue and implied that if they don't he will do exactly what Obama did.
He didn't say that. He said he would "revisit" the issue. Quit making shit up.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...artment-242375
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