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01-17-2013, 06:22 AM
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3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system like the sale of assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks like the sale of assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun like the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers like for the assault rifles sold to the Cartels in Mexico.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign to prohibit the sale of the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission) for the sale of the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations regarding the deaths from the sale of the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement regarding the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
11. Nominate an ATF director, whose first task will be to fully, openly, and transparently investigate and report to Congress on the sale of the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime like the sale of the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence in Mexico.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies to track the sale of the assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health as it relates to the personnel in the current administration who authorized the sale of assault rifles to the Cartels in Mexico.
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Before my neighbor talks to me about "weeding" my yard, ..
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01-17-2013, 06:39 AM
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3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission) like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations regarding the deaths from the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
11. Nominate an ATF director, whose first task will be to fully, openly, and transparently investigate and report to Congress on the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime like the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence in Mexico.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies to track the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua..
23. Launch a national dialogue on mental health as it relates to the personnel in the Reagan administration who authorized the sale of arms to the Contras, in Nicaragua.
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There, I fixed it fer ya'!
LL, before you ask to "weed" my yard, I expect you to "weed" yours!
Just sayin'
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01-17-2013, 09:28 AM
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I'm not the fucking DOD. and that question is not germane to this debate but just another one of your many dishonest deflections of the issue.
this is about gun control measures proposed and signed by the president yesterday. Not drone strikes against hostile targets.
How many animals did Noah put on the ark? How many innocent reciews were lost in the great crash? what time of day did IBCrying last melt down?
All as relevant as the "question" you now are trying to interrogate me with..
and you ARE beginning to sound like Marshall ... With the emoticons!
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01-17-2013, 09:42 AM
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There, I fixed it fer ya'!
LL, before you ask to "weed" my yard, I expect you to "weed" yours!
Just sayin'
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Is Regan asking for "gun control" of assault weapons? Just asking!
And what was Obama trading for in Mexico?
Dredging up ancient history to cover his butt, are you?
I didn't mention Bill Clinton authorizing the importation of polymer handguns from the Soviet (re-tooled sewing machine factory needed the business)!
.. get that ... "polymer" ... vs. ..... TSA metal detectors?
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01-17-2013, 12:50 PM
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Please describe how any of these new regulations would have prevented Sandy Hook from occurring.
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01-17-2013, 01:01 PM
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Anyone?
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youre not getting any responses because this legislation couldnt have stopped Sandy from happening ... maybe its possible to stop future events like Hook, but I doubt it. Regardless, 20 innocent babies dead and you can bet your ass thats the last straw ... gun control legislation of some sort WILL be passed
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01-17-2013, 01:04 PM
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How many Mexican cartels were used in the shootings in
Aurora and Sandy Hook elem? Va Tech?
You obviously are still obsessed with Obama, not the issue.
YYou have a thing for tall powerful guys, IBSuckingdong?
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01-17-2013, 01:06 PM
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Maybe a ban on assault weapons and oversized clips might have made a difference CC but that's up to Congress, isnt it?
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01-17-2013, 01:11 PM
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assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004
I cant remember one single issue that confronted responsible gun owners, and kept them from owning and buying guns during that period..
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01-17-2013, 01:39 PM
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assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004
I cant remember one single issue that confronted responsible gun owners, and kept them from owning and buying guns during that period..
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There never was an issue that prevented owning and buying any type of Gun never will be in this country, unless of course the manufactoring of all Firearms seizes in this country, which by the way would kill an industry and lots of jobs. Every Gun is confiscated from all Gun owners and then destroyed, Thats not going to happen for several reasons not enough man power, to costly lots of people would get killed and it's unconstitutional. Police and Military would'nt go along with it anyway. So Gun Control is really only a formality and could never be ultimately enforced There will always be gun sales, ownership and unfortunately in the hands of criminals violence involving guns.
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01-17-2013, 02:07 PM
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There never was an issue that prevented owning and buying any type of Gun never will be in this country, unless of course the manufactoring of all Firearms seizes in this country, which by the way would kill an industry and lots of jobs. Every Gun is confiscated from all Gun owners and then destroyed, Thats not going to happen for several reasons not enough man power, to costly lots of people would get killed and it's unconstitutional. Police and Military would'nt go along with it anyway. So Gun Control is really only a formality and could never be ultimately enforced There will always be gun sales, ownership and unfortunately in the hands of criminals violence involving guns.
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Im down with 100% of that
nice 1911 A1 btw
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01-17-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Actually, I am trying to find out what you do in response to the dog with teeth with a "bad attitude," but it seems difficult for you to address your own scenario ... you can recognize one, but you don't seem to have a response until the dog bites you ....
I guess it's a good thing you don't have a gun of any kind.
You would wait until you are "biten" to respond, which means your gun would end up in the hands of the "dog with teeth with the bad attitude" ... just the "dog" we don't want to have one.
So, you are part of the problem for which a solution must be found.
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Heh, heh heh, what a RE and RE-RE-TARD.
Son, I can read it for you but I can't understand it for you. Parse away, klown. We know you think you're tricky, super smooth and COGrits-like, but you can't even hold his jock - and he's useless. Sniff it - maybe - hold it - nada.
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01-17-2013, 03:04 PM
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youre not getting any responses because this legislation couldnt have stopped Sandy from happening ... maybe its possible to stop future events like Hook, but I doubt it.
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And that is my whole point. Why throw all the pomp and circumstance at it, create all this new legislation and costs plus all the enforcement bullshit when everyone knows that it will do little to nothing to "fix" the problem.
The mental health aspects of the various EO's signed, IS good and I don't think too many people are going to be up in arms over those parts of it. I'm certainly not.
Everyone of these people that have committed these heinous acts are always some mentally unstable whackjob that, when investigated after the fact, always have a trail of signs leading up to the time of the act. And concentrating on identifying those people and treating whatever their issues are SHOULD be the point of any "gun" legislation. Period.
All the other legislation is simply emotional and reactionary, "feel-good" bullshit. Like most other crap the government does, its an illusion of safety and in reality does nothing to keep anyone any safer than I am today with several weapons in my home and/or on my person as a responsible gun owner.
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01-17-2013, 03:09 PM
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And that is my whole point. Why throw all the pomp and circumstance at it, create all this new legislation and costs plus all the enforcement bullshit when everyone knows that it will do little to nothing to "fix" the problem.
The mental health aspects of the various EO's signed, IS good and I don't think too many people are going to be up in arms over those parts of it. I'm certainly not.
Everyone of these people that have committed these heinous acts are always some mentally unstable whackjob that, when investigated after the fact, always have a trail of signs leading up to the time of the act. And concentrating on identifying those people and treating whatever their issues are SHOULD be the point of any "gun" legislation. Period.
All the other legislation is simply emotional and reactionary, "feel-good" bullshit. Like most other crap the government does, its an illusion of safety and in reality does nothing to keep anyone any safer than I am today with several weapons in my home and/or on my person as a responsible gun owner.
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And that is my whole point. Why throw all the pomp and circumstance at it, create all this new legislation and costs plus all the enforcement bullshit when everyone knows that it will do little to nothing to "fix" the problem
like I said... 20 dead babies was the last straw
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01-17-2013, 03:12 PM
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Well, you stupid, fu*king Teawipes,
The President for Four More Years really has trotted out a set of EO's that ought to make you assault rifle and cop-killer ammo hoarders tremble in your overpriced combat boots, eh? These EO's are what I'd call real tyranny and quite the move to destroy our way of life - NOT.
For those of you who persist in ejaculating all over my screen with tales of how "THE END IS NEAR" for our country, don't you think it would take a little more than what we've seen so far?
OR
Are you wusses so freaking lame and limp that these are all it's going to take to take away all of your "freedoms?" You sure sound like it is.
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