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Doove · 11-12-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

What have you got against liberty, Doove?

Nothing. Until it leads to old ladies eating cat food. And freezing to death because they can't afford to heat their homes.

But people like you are ok with that, eh COG?

Marshall · 11-12-2011, 02:43 PM

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Nothing. Until it leads to old ladies eating cat food. And freezing to death because they can't afford to heat their homes.

Doofus, rather than whine and complain about other people taking care of that old lady, I suggest YOU do it.......

you don't help the freezing cat-food eating old ladies you sister-fucking HYPOCRITE!

don't go lying and say you do, because if you truly did, then you'd run into scores of kind and caring people and know you don't have to rely on government to take care of the poor.......selfish God-hating pricks like you never acknowledge all the good works done by religious people and churches......

Fast Gunn · 11-12-2011, 02:48 PM

How is that different than the Democrats?

Damn, I thought that was so obvious even you would realize it. There is a clear and objective difference for those who want to see.

Do you remember President Clinton? As reviled as he was for minor indiscretions, he left the country in better shape than when he found it.

That is the measure of a good President.

He governed wisely and left us with a budget surplus! It's hard to even remember what a budget surplus looks like when even our credit rating has been downgraded.

Bush on the other hand, dug this country into such a deep hole with his idiotic wars and shameful tax-cuts that drove us into the worst recession since the Great Depression.

President Obama has been reversing the direction this country has taken and pulling our troops from those foolish wars.

. . . Some Presidents actually love this country and want to do what is best for it, but most only love power and the good of the country is only secondary if even a consideration at all!

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

How is this different than Democrats? I mean, you're right about Republicans, but Democrats are just as bad, or worse. Take of the rose colored glasses and look around, neither party gives a flying rat's ass for you.

Marshall · 11-12-2011, 02:57 PM

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How is that different than the Democrats?

Damn, I thought that was so obvious even you would realize it. There is a clear and objective difference for those who want to see.

Do you remember President Clinton? As reviled as he was for minor indiscretions, he left the country in better shape than when he found it.

That is the measure of a good President.

He governed wisely and left us with a budget surplus! It's hard to even remember what a budget surplus looks like when even our credit rating has been downgraded.

Bush on the other hand, dug this country into such a deep hole with his idiotic wars and shameful tax-cuts that drove us into the worst recession since the Great Depression.

President Obama has been reversing the direction this country has taken and pulling our troops from those foolish wars.

. . . Some Presidents actually love this country and want to do what is best for it, but most only love power and the good of the country is only secondary if even a consideration at all!

Fast Cum, if you'd tell your boyfriend to stop shoving that big-black-leather-bullwhip up your ass and spend some time reading and studying history, you'd know there is a correlation between dumbocrat control of congress and higher spending...........OH, AND BY THE WAY, CLINTON GAVE US 911................IF BRAINS WERE GOLD, YOU'D BE POOR.....

Guest040616 · 11-12-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshall

IF BRAINS WERE GOLD, YOU'D BE POOR.....

MARSHY, IF BRAINS WERE GOLD, YOURS WOULD BE 20 YEARS PAST DUE!

Fast Gunn · 11-12-2011, 05:52 PM

You sure seem to be obsessed with my cum, aren't you, punk?

You must not only be the biggest retard on this board, but a screaming homosexual too.

Frankly, I don't even know why the mods tolerate your presence on the board, but your days are numbered.

. . . Your only purpose seems to provide some sort of comic relief as nobody takes your seriously.

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Originally Posted by Marshall

Fast Cum, if you'd tell your boyfriend to stop shoving that big-black-leather-bullwhip up your ass and spend some time reading and studying history, you'd know there is a correlation between dumbocrat control of congress and higher spending...........OH, AND BY THE WAY, CLINTON GAVE US 911................IF BRAINS WERE GOLD, YOU'D BE POOR.....

waverunner234 · 11-12-2011, 08:09 PM

Watching the current debate right now,

- waiting for Perry to make another slider,
- waiting for Bachwoman to make a fool of herself again,
- waiting for Romney to tell us how many jobs he destroyed as a corporate raider.

No luck sofar! But I just woke up, maybe I missed it already

charlestudor2005 · 11-12-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by waverunner234

Watching the current debate right now,

- waiting for Perry to make another slider,
- waiting for Bachwoman to make a fool of herself again,
- waiting for Romney to tell us how many jobs he destroyed as a corporate raider.

No luck sofar! But I just woke up, maybe I missed it already

I watched a little of it too. Decided that Gingrich and Cain were fawning over each other so much that they should be the Pres/Vpres candidates. Doesn't matter who is who.

CuteOldGuy · 11-12-2011, 10:08 PM

Fast Gunn, until you see that this is all a game, and the Democrats are playing you as much as the Republicans, there isn't much more to say.

And Doove, Nice straw argument. You set yourself up, and knocked yourself down. Congratulations. Please explain how liberty leads to old ladies on the street eating dog food. This ought to be good. And to think, you don't think you're entertaining.

wellendowed1911 · 11-12-2011, 10:45 PM

In case anyone missed the Republican debate on foreign policy here's basically what you missed all summed up:

Vote for me! I hate Obama more than the rest of these guys do! Hey... look at me! I really, really hate Obama! Look, I have all the talking points memorized! I hate socialism, homosexuals, Mexicans, people on welfare, government employees (except policemen, firefighters and the military), Muslims, the ACLU, the liberal media, the NAACP, feminists, abortion, college professors, environmentalists, protestors (if they're libruls) and scientists of any stripe if they don't toe the Republican line.

Vote for me! Vote for me!

Romney was the most pathetic and his remarks of he will make sure Iran doesn't develop a nuclear weapon even if means military action- does he actually think Independents want a President who wants another war????

CuteOldGuy · 11-12-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

In case anyone missed the Republican debate on foreign policy here's basically what you missed all summed up:

Vote for me! I hate Obama more than the rest of these guys do! Hey... look at me! I really, really hate Obama! Look, I have all the talking points memorized! I hate socialism, homosexuals, Mexicans, people on welfare, government employees (except policemen, firefighters and the military), Muslims, the ACLU, the liberal media, the NAACP, feminists, abortion, college professors, environmentalists, protestors (if they're libruls) and scientists of any stripe if they don't toe the Republican line.

Vote for me! Vote for me!

Romney was the most pathetic and his remarks of he will make sure Iran doesn't develop a nuclear weapon even if means military action- does he actually think Independents want a President who wants another war????

And your problem with this is . . .?

Doove · 11-13-2011, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

And Doove, Nice straw argument. You set yourself up, and knocked yourself down. Congratulations. Please explain how liberty leads to old ladies on the street eating dog food. This ought to be good. And to think, you don't think you're entertaining.

The straw man argument here is your claiming my argument was a straw man argument. You're in denial COG. Leaving everyone to their own devices, how would that NOT lead to old people eating cat food? I'm not going to explain it to you, it's entirely self evident.

Charities sure as hell ain't the answer. If they were, they'd be the answer today. Now. There's nothing stopping charities from adequately serving the needs of everyone who would need them today, but they fall grotesquely short. There's no reason to think that would change if Government would just get out of the way.

Libertarians think that because they don't need government services, nobody else should be allowed government services. Speaks volumes of where you're coming from.

CuteOldGuy · 11-13-2011, 08:03 AM

Ok, so you're not a fan of liberty. How much government control is good?

CuteOldGuy · 11-13-2011, 09:38 AM

Gather around, brothers and sisters, and let us consider our brother Doove's statement. He believes that good will only be done if government does it. That the rest of us are so barbaric and neanderthal that we will willingly allow our fellow citizens to die and rot in the street unless government steps in and saves us from ourselves. That government is the source of all good and benevolence.

Anyone besides me frightened by that concept?

BigLouie · 11-13-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

And your problem with this is . . .?

The problem is that the Republicans will say anything to get elected. Before Bush and the Republicans were voted in office all the Republicans candidates had this long list of government agencies they were going to abolish just as soon as they took power. The same ones they are talking about now. Guess what happened. None were abolish and ALL had their funding increase while the Republicans were in control.