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Old 07-15-2017, 05:53 PM   #61
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Been in Ketosiss for quite awhile. Fathead pizza is ok, but extremely heavy. If you want a truly great pizza crust that is keto friendly do a search for chicken pizza crust. Uses canned chicken (gotta find the good stuff without the crazy chemicals in it) and parm cheese to make a crust. Best thing I've eaten since being in ketosis.
That sounds interesting! I love Fathead (so much so that I made it again for dinner tonight) but you're right, it is very heavy.

I'm doing lazy keto at best - really probably more like just low carb, but I rarely go over 30-35g for a day. The intermittent fasting is my weight loss mechanism right now, low carb is so I can minimize insulin response during my re-feed meals. I may have to get stricter on the keto at some point but right now the IF/low carb combo is getting the job done so I'm not specifically trying to get into ketosis, though it's welcome if/when I do.
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I did my part today. I ate some pineapple.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:44 PM   #64
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If you're interested in fasting read a book "complete guide to fasting". Someone I know ecommended it to m. He's easily the smartest guy I know and says there is some great research and info in the book about restarting your system with fasting.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:18 PM   #65
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If you're interested in fasting read a book "complete guide to fasting". Someone I know ecommended it to m. He's easily the smartest guy I know and says there is some great research and info in the book about restarting your system with fasting.
I actually have read it! It's by Dr. Jason Fung, same guy who wrote The Obesity Code, the main difference being The Obesity Code goes into more detail about the biochemistry of insulin, glucagon, leptin, etc. when the body is in a fasted state, where The Complete Guide to Fasting is more of a how to. I have them both and they are both very good. The Obesity Code is how I got started with Intermittent Fasting.
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I did my part today. I ate some pineapple.
Well if that works - yay!
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If you haven't seen Fat Head it's absolutely worth a watch.

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Back down to about 185 - hopefully I can break 180 and get back to to 170 by the end of the year!
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Been in Ketosiss for quite awhile. Fathead pizza is ok, but extremely heavy. If you want a truly great pizza crust that is keto friendly do a search for chicken pizza crust. Uses canned chicken (gotta find the good stuff without the crazy chemicals in it) and parm cheese to make a crust. Best thing I've eaten since being in ketosis.
I think I found the recipe, is this it?

https://www.ketoconnect.net/recipe/no-carb-pizza/
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So here's my first accountability post. I figure I need to lose 70 pounds. If I did that I'd be at the high end of what I'd consider an acceptable weight for my height. That would still have me in a BMI range of Overweight but not Obese. In any case it would be a drastic improvement.

The method I'm following is:

  • An Intermittent Fasting Eating Pattern - a bit much to explain here but a good overview is at http://jamesclear.com/the-beginners-...ittent-fasting. It's probably not fasting in the way you'd envision it. I'm using the "LeanGains" 16:8 method meaning a daily 8 hour feeding period and 16 hour fasting period. This seems to be the least extreme of the recommended intermittent fasting methods.
  • A Ketogenic Food Plan - generally less than 20g carbs daily and what carbs are eaten come from vegetables and nuts.
  • HIT (High Intensity Training) Exercise Plan - short bursts of high intensity exercise followed by minimal rest between sets. Weights focusing on large muscle groups: squats, presses, rows, etc. Staring out with as 8 sets of as many reps as can be done in 20 seconds with a 10 second rest period between sets. Also some cardio work in a similar vein - short burts - short rest - short burst, etc. Typically I will do this within the fasting cycle, which challenges conventional wisdom about eating before a workout for energy, but there seems to be some logic in making your body need more energy during a time when glycogen stores are depleted and stored fat needs to be used for energy instead (which it can't be, directly, but if needed can be converted to glucose which is then converted to glycogen for the body to use).
  • Complete avoidance of wheat / grains - This isn't about gluten, exactly, not in the sense that a celiac sufferer would need to avoid it. There is a protein in wheat called giladin that is problematic for weight loss in that it breaks down into peptides that can cross the blood-brain barrier and stimulate appetite. More info at https://wheatbelly.com/. In any case, whether Dr. Davis (the Wheat Belly author) is correct or not, grains are high in carbohydrates and so not compatible with a ketogenic food plan.
I've been doing it for about a week with great results but of course the true test is how it does longer term, and most diets have good short term results, so I'm not even going to post results so far. My results update will be in a month. In the intervening time I'll be going on vacation, which is can be devastating to any weight loss plan, but I hope to at least maintain during that week even if I don't lose any fat during it.
Back for my monthly check-in. As of today, 14 pounds lost since 6/21. That's a little more impressive than it sounds because I went on vacation for 9 days and didn't intermittently fast at all or really watch what I ate very much while on vacation, so I had gained 6 pounds back of what I'd lost when I returned from vacation. I didn't freak out because I knew about 3-4 pounds of it was water weight, and it was, because 3.5 pounds came right back off within a couple of days back on plan. However, it took a week to get back down to exactly where I was before vacation. So there were a couple of "lost" weeks in that month. Had I been on plan the whole time, I'm very confident I would have lost 20+.
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I think I found the recipe, is this it?

https://www.ketoconnect.net/recipe/no-carb-pizza/
That's the one...amazing!!
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:04 PM   #72
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So here's my first accountability post. I figure I need to lose 70 pounds. If I did that I'd be at the high end of what I'd consider an acceptable weight for my height. That would still have me in a BMI range of Overweight but not Obese. In any case it would be a drastic improvement.

The method I'm following is:

An Intermittent Fasting Eating Pattern - a bit much to explain here but a good overview is at [url
http://jamesclear.com/the-beginners-...ittent-fasting[/url]. It's probably not fasting in the way you'd envision it. I'm using the "LeanGains" 16:8 method meaning a daily 8 hour feeding period and 16 hour fasting period. This seems to be the least extreme of the recommended intermittent fasting methods.
A Ketogenic Food Plan - generally less than 20g carbs daily and what carbs are eaten come from vegetables and nuts.
HIT (High Intensity Training) Exercise Plan - short bursts of high intensity exercise followed by minimal rest between sets. Weights focusing on large muscle groups: squats, presses, rows, etc. Staring out with as 8 sets of as many reps as can be done in 20 seconds with a 10 second rest period between sets. Also some cardio work in a similar vein - short burts - short rest - short burst, etc. Typically I will do this within the fasting cycle, which challenges conventional wisdom about eating before a workout for energy, but there seems to be some logic in making your body need more energy during a time when glycogen stores are depleted and stored fat needs to be used for energy instead (which it can't be, directly, but if needed can be converted to glucose which is then converted to glycogen for the body to use).
Complete avoidance of wheat / grains - This isn't about gluten, exactly, not in the sense that a celiac sufferer would need to avoid it. There is a protein in wheat called giladin that is problematic for weight loss in that it breaks down into peptides that can cross the blood-brain barrier and stimulate appetite. More info at https://wheatbelly.com/. In any case, whether Dr. Davis (the Wheat Belly author) is correct or not, grains are high in carbohydrates and so not compatible with a ketogenic food plan.
I've been doing it for about a week with great results but of course the true test is how it does longer term, and most diets have good short term results, so I'm not even going to post results so far. My results update will be in a month. In the intervening time I'll be going on vacation, which is can be devastating to any weight loss plan, but I hope to at least maintain during that week even if I don't lose any fat during it.
This is basically what I follow but not to a T that I am obsessed with staying in Ketosis state. I also just ride a bike for 10 miles a day for my cardio at the gym with fairly high resistance setting. Do lifting 3 times a week.

Drink only water or unsweet tea nothing prepackaged. Eat low carb, no wheat, no raw sugars at all. All sugars I get are from food which is almost unavoidable. But again I don't obsess over "dieting" or following any strict plan as the more I think and focus on doing those thing the more I obsess over what I am not getting to eat etc...

I have dropped 22 lbs since June 1st. I already need to buy new pants as all mine fall off me now. Last time I fasted I was laid up in a hospital bed waiting for my vitals to level out so they could remove my gallbladder. Took 3 days of no food and being on an IV only to do that. I thought I might have lost a bunch of weight but nope.

I like this thread, its like a weight watchers meeting online.

Keep up the great work everyone!
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Been slacking on the exercise this week, so I punished myself at the gym with 30 minutes of intervals on the elliptical, 5 minutes on the ladder, and 2000 meters on the row machine at a higher setting than I normally use. Follow it up with walks and/or bike rides over the weekend, and I should more than make up for my laziness, haha
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I'm back on my diet and already down 5lbs since Wednesday. I'm walking a lot less since I got my new car, but I plan to change that. I need to get back to walking at least 2 miles/day
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I'm with Spanky, IF does work, its not for everybody. I've been maintaining my weight quite well and building some muscle while on this...
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