The new economy and the $80 escort (or "business is not slow")

[rex4998]

I'm bummed. I didn't find any eccie coupons in my Dallas Entertainment coupon books.

[esteban0415]

Originally Posted by rex4998

I'm bummed. I didn't find any eccie coupons in my Dallas Entertainment coupon books.

not even under "massages"? bummer..

[rex4998]

plenty of buy 1 get 1 free at fast food places, 20% off retail, and other such coupons, but nothing under "eccie"

[elgato111]

From what I have been told by several providers over the past few months business is not slow at all, so there is no need to lower their rates.

But 80 vs 300 is another issue. Been my experience that those providers at the lower end rates get a lot of business simply due to their rate, not necessarily for their "great" service. But that is not to say that there are those lower priced providers here that give just as good a session as the higher priced providers.

When I first started many years ago you could spend an hour with a great provider for around 100 and come away smiling and weak in the knees. Today that same provider is 250 to 300 with the same service level if not better as she has matured.

Rates are subjective, girls charge what they think is fair for them. Quality is what counts, without it no rate is right or fair. Too many options to worry about rates, I just look for quality when I search for someone to see.

[LovingKayla]

Originally Posted by LazurusLong

Really?

Ladies keep track of handles with black marks?

Yes. Then we all talk later. It's really fun.

Originally Posted by LazurusLong

Isn't that assuming that this member actually has to disclose his handle to an escort before they have more than a handle?



Do you honestly think the types of girls he is talking about, the civilian friends of strippers, even know what a handle is?

He posted it in the public forum of this board with a question directed toward the women. The actual girls that have the rates he's speaking of probably have no idea of the board but the ones here being told of these providers that just have a ton of work at 80 bucks, DO.

I'm thinking that sentence above could be worded better. My apologies. My sentence structure dyslexia is kicking in.


No disrespect for the girls in which he speaks. My comments are for the ones here that could have been rattled a bit. Being a contractor and the sole bread winner (as most of these women are) is very hard territory. Even when times are good, the uncertainty of tomorrow can cause stress. Adding to it with this sort of thread is just stress I'm trying to alleviate.

[Randall Creed]

I'm pretty sure my black mark column is squeaky clean and unscathed, because the ladies just love me so.

From personal experience, when speaking of low rates vs umm not so low rates, and those that have them. The BIGGEST differences are the following for their own separate reasons: bbbj, msog, and umm, how do I put this, body. Yeah, body.

Those that have the lowest rates TYPICALLY want nothing to do with bbbj. If you can deal with the dreaded cbj, then low rated providers are the way to go. If you need real time saliva on your wood, stay away from these kind. On the other end of the rate spectrum, this is virtually a requirement. If you're 2 bills, 2 1/2 and up, and you're cbj, your business will most likely die a quick death. This would be a good time to change your name, phone number (possibly), and re-invent yourself, because reviews (and subsequent readers) will rip you to shreds if you don't. Meanwhile, determine which way you wanna go, as in cbj or not.

If you can get MSOG with anything under 2 bills, you da man. We old geezers CAN'T get a second shot 9 times out of 10, but it's mighty nice to know that that 1 time out of 10 is there if the provider's willing, and the high spectrum end USUALLY is. If you're 2 bills and up and is NOT MSOG, your business probably isn't going as well as you'd like it. Even if you're pretty hot, no MSOG word spreads fast. This is the cousin of bbbj. If you don't do BOTH of these, you're most likely going to be about plan H on the selection list, assuming you make up ground in the next category.

Body. How big (and/or perky) are those tits? How phat and round is that ass? How thick are those thighs? Are you cute? Very pretty? Heigh/weight proportionate? Now, you don't HAVE to look like Beyonce or Shakira, but it doesn't hurt. We old geezers spending money for play WANT GIRLS OUT OF OUR LEAGUE...at least some of us do(WALDT). Where's the fun in NOT seeing those kind? Where else am I going to find someone with Miley Cyrus' face, Pam Anderson's tits, and Coco's ass, that will even GLANCE at me, let alone allow me to grope and kiss and do other wonderful things to her??

Younger, lower rate providers tend to not give bbbj, nor kiss, and forget about msog. What gets them business is their hot, young teeny bopper (legal) bodies. This, combined with greater affordability, is a STROOOONG selling point. Think about it, ladies. Most of us are only going to get one pop anyway. Why pay 3 bills for one pop with [typically] an older provider (older being an ancient....30 or so, give or take) when one could pay HALF as much (or less) with a dreamgirl type? Hell, one could bang one hot young body TODAY, and another two days from now. Two pops that still feel just as good as the one I would've gotten for the same amount with the HDH. Yeah, she was cbj, and no kissing, and was counting the minutes as they ticked away, but having that nice, young, FIRM ass in the palm of my hands was priceless, as was gobbling on those sweet, perky tits, as was being in her youthfully tight...you know.

'Her cbj wasn't THAT bad, and I did manage a LIGHT kiss on the lips when I had her in mish. Yeah! That was a pretty good session! Lemme write a review about it.'

This could be one of many thought processes guys get when they're in the mood for some action.

[timothe]

The first rule of the free market: Price, Quality, Service....you can have two of the three.

[Guest022712-3]

Hooray!! I'm finally "ancient" at the ripe ol' age of 30!!

[Boltfan]

Contractors Triangle...


Good, Fast, Cheap, you can't have all 3.

Oh wait, I thought we were discussing building codes.

[guest031012]

Are these hot 19 y/o you speak of offering an hour of GFE service for $80???

Because I had a similar debate with a very similar thread in the austin co-ed where the guy was bragging about never paying over $100 for a session - and his sessions were 15-20 minutes. So in reality, that's $300/hr. He thought he was so smart and enlightening the rest of the hobbyists. It was laughable. I hate these type of threads honestly, and they will always appear in co-ed from time to time, and the ladies will have their say, and the men will have theirs, but at the end of the day we are not lowering our rates. We may run specials, we may grandfather you at a certain rate, but it is highly unlikely that any of us will really lower our rates by more than half. If our rates are 200, 300 or even 500 an hour, it is obviously working for us.

xoxo

[Putanna Di Classe]

To the OP,

I demand to see your reviews with: URLs, e-mail addys, and phone numbers of all of these 80 buck golden pussied young hot-body providers that you have been bedding down with or I am calling B.S. on the whole deal. And don't be making crap up either!

C'mon! You know reading the juicy stuff is the only reason I even visit the reviews forum!

[LazurusLong]

Originally Posted by Marla

To the OP,

I demand to see your reviews with: URLs, e-mail addys, and phone numbers of all of these 80 buck golden pussied young hot-body providers that you have been bedding down with or I am calling B.S. on the whole deal. And don't be making crap up either!

C'mon! You know reading the juicy stuff is the only reason I even visit the reviews forum!

Don't make crap up?

3/4 of the reviews on this board contain more fiction than truth.

Calling them providers is the first mistake.

When a man treats a young woman (one who has not been "turned" by a pimp or her boyfriend/pimp) like a hooker, she demands more and more money.

When a 18-25 year old is struggling to make ends meet and she meets a guy who treats her well, never talks down to her, they spend time in what she might consider casual dating and he helps pay her phone bill, or fill up her gas tank, or makes up any rent shortfall, she MAY be a provider to those who have no other options and no other way to make money but she would never be reviewed on a board.

How many sugar baby reviews have you ever seen on ECCIE when if the numbers were computed, many sugar babies see their sugar daddies for less per hour than some providers on here demand that are a lot less hot and a lot more uptight.

Even the strippers he posted about know the rules he has set up and it works.

Fuck no he won't share, especially with providers on here who will bother the shit out of new girls demanding they raise their rates to get with the program. THEIR program is not good for both sides in this particular equation.

[Putanna Di Classe]

So like I said Laz...I call bullshit.

If they are not providers/escorts why is he talking about them on the escort information exchange board? It does nobody any good, providers or hobbyists. This is a place to post pertinent information on escorts for hire, or at least that's what I thought this place was for. Shit, maybe it's a place to find out who makes the best cookies and pies?

[jaytee3]

I am with the ladies on this issue. I would rather visit ladies that would be considered high-end, classy and pay 250 to 350 or more per hour,than see some of these 18-25 year old flakes and never know for sure what I'm getting. I have seen some 18 to 25 but did my homework and each was wonderful. Hell, I have seen one particular lady 3 times for 1100 or more for 3 hours and those encounters were some of the best, if not the best I've ever had. You get what pay for, as the saying goes. I prefer low-volume ladies who tend to treat me great rather than slam bang thank you maam. But that's just me.

[LazurusLong]

Originally Posted by Marla

This is a place to post pertinent information on escorts for hire, or at least that's what I thought this place was for. Shit, maybe it's a place to find out who makes the best cookies and pies?

Maybe the thread should have been started in the men's only area but then the ladies with access to the ML would not have been able to get their panties in a wad and post all sorts of demeaning comments about ACTUAL providers who charge less.

Here's 2 providers who post ads. One IS a verified ECCIE provider that I personally vouched for. This first one, I just saw recently. They both offer full GFE sessions which include kissing, DATY, BBBJ, and MPCFS. All for that whopping price point of 60 dollars for 30 minutes which for those whorrible at math, is 120 per hour.

Meet Sophie:
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=278672

And her ECCIE verified (by me) provider friend Mandi:
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=252806

Both are 21 or under, both spinners. BOTH GFE and a lot of fun with no bullshit whining or post whores on the board in fact, even though Mandi is ECCIE verified, she doesn't bother to post ads here because she appears to do just fine without the bullshit drama that happens when the "Price Posse" goes after the newer less expensive ladies demanding they raise their rates.

So, there ya go. 2 young hotties offering complete GFE for what amounts to 120 per hour. No fatties, no saddle bags, no stretch marks or saggy titties or cottage cheese asses. Just nice firm tight spinner ht/wt proportionate bodies.

Slightly more than the OP mentioned at his 80-100 per hour but oh well, I must not be as smooth as he is with civilians.