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Old 07-25-2012, 08:50 AM   #61
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Default Government is really just the rule of law. I understand that you Paterno haters do not respect the rule of law. So we argue...

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People succeed in spite of government, not because of it.
I know you said stay away from sharp objects but your wit isn't one of them. Government is part of the Business ECO system. It can be either good or evil depending on where you are sitting at in the needs department. Therefore it is really neither, it just is. It is no more good or evil than say a neighbor(s). One may be good, one may be evil but the point you people can not ever seem to understand is prespective. It is all about your prespective at the time.

Without government and laws , women and the weak would have a really tough go of it.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:57 AM   #62
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It not a question of whether to have government. It's a question of how much, and how intrusive. Jefferson said the government governs best when it governs least. That is still true.

Eddie Chiles said "There are three things I want government to do. Defend my shores, deliver my mail, and leave me alone." The spirit of the statement couldn't be more right on.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:57 AM   #63
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Seriously Olivia, are you just trying to make me feel sorry for you? I mean, really.

Yes, i took the quote totally out of context. I did it on purpose. Duh.

My intent was simply to point out how silly you are for relying solely on one statement of Obama's while ignoring what came before and what came after. Exposing you as the hypocrite that fetishfreak and wtf have pointed out you are is just a bonus!

You seem to be the only one not in on the joke. Well, you and davec.
OK, Doove, I’ll take you to school. One, if you are going to bait someone like I do other posters, you need to be sure there is only one dope in the room besides you. No, Doove, it was not a plot or a game on your part. If it were, you wouldn’t have waited till the pile on to say “Just kiddin’; look at dummie, lezzie crush Olivia”. You’re not the cat; you’re not even the mouse; you’re just the broken record. You can’t retort the same thing every time – Lezzie Crush and then out of the blue claim to be the master puppeteer setting traps for the experienced. No one believes it. Not even the few that hate me on here do. One, because I’ve done it to them and two, because I’ve done it to them.

If you want to play, let’s play. Join the Spider Hole, and I’ll turn you inside out. Until you man up and take this off line, I’ll just continue to dismiss your mono-response, the new master game player act and the increasingly erratic arguments and “alliances” unless you either twist my words, which you have done in your subsequent post that I am fixing to address, or lie about me which you have never done that I know of. I may drop a Doove box of Lezzie Crush on you once in a while, but that’s about it. Now, if you want to go back to debating and having fun, I’d be more than happy to. I enjoy your banter and, outside Obama, agree with you on quite a few things.

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In that thread, didn't you say you sued somebody? (See, i did read it).

Who do you think paid for the system that allowed you to do that?

You even thanked a specific judge. Who do you think pays her salary which allowed her to help you?
No, this is what I said:

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Everyone here wants to talk about the gob’ment putting in roads and infrastructure? Not on that job they didn’t. The variance I spoke of earlier is because the asshole City wanted me to run a street. A real 28’, 13” steel, re-enforced concrete street with curbs because there was an unfinished street running adjacent to my property. It was part of a minority vote buying initiative by Mayor White. A lawyer and eight weeks later, no, I didn’t have to finish out a 35 year old, abandoned street. I did have to being the utilities: water, sewage, gas and electricity to the site at my cost as well as provide storm water drainage.

I didn't go to trial obviously, it was only eight weeks until I got my money out of the insurance company. I've also been frivolously sued several times. Thank GOD for all the gob'ment help! Even when I won, I paid! Try being a builder. You do a walk through with the new homeowners. You get them to sign a piece of paper that is included in the recordable closing docs that all cosmetic work to be done is include in this little piece of paper. Their kid knocks a whole in the sheet rock. I won’t fix it. They sue me. Ya, I’ve been sued several times. I only lost once and that was the City of Houston suing me. Wanna hear the details?

I thanked no one. I mentioned my attorney who took my money and a judge that was sane. If you read that paragraph, you’d also see that I paid to have the water, sanitary and storm sewers, gas and electricity and access (street) brought in. I also paid to re-plat the property. I also paid to permit the property. I got sued by the City over the property. I got FUCKED by the county over the property taxes – wanna hear the details of how I dramatically overpaid the taxes for two years on my rentals I own in that subdivision I created? I PAID.


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You also mentioned, i believe, something about a family member having to deal with some thugs while carrying out business of yours and you bitched about not getting help in that instance.
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But where, was the gob’ment when my daughter was collecting rent for me once. A gang of, we’ll call them youths, lined up across the street to try to get her to stop. I guess they figured a girl in a high end German car was an easy mark. Negative Mustang. No help was needed to get those checks in the bank. She downshifted and gunned it. Well, I might have had some help since I don’t own the bank I deposited the money in. In fact I won't own any bank charters. But there you go. Help.
You’re reading what you want to read into what I said. It was sarcasm. Note the spelling of gob’ment. You and that dickhead Obama want everybody to be autotrons and dependant. We don’t all need “help”. The gob’ment isn’t everywhere helping us all the time like “he” wants us to think. I much prefer the approach, “The good Lord helps those that help themselves”. If the Obama’s of the world had their way, the good people of the United States couldn’t decide anything for themselves let alone do anything for themselves. And in closing, my daughter doesn’t need help dealing with threats. She’s got brass balls. If you note how I ended the passage, she didn’t need help – but the ghetto rats almost did.


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But how many times do you think you'd have to deal with thugs in running your business if not for the criminal justice system that we all pay for?
Well let’s see, there was the time I chased down Poo Bear for HPD to arrest him. There were those other times that my job sites were robbed and HPD said there was nothing they could do. They did give me a little piece of paper about 3x4 with a case number to turn into my builders' risk insurance. There was that time I hired the neighborhood “Barber” to put out the word that my jobsites and houses were off limits. Guess what? They suddenly became off limits. But, I paid.

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You got help. You're just too thick headed to admit it.
I got, like most business owners and people of stature, he’p or do you spell it hep’ from the gob’ment. And that hep’ came at the end of my taxes. We don’t live in a social democracy, and I’m not a social democrat. No amount of wanting cradle to grave care will change that. I came out of abject poverty and no one got me to where I am to day but me.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:04 AM   #64
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OK, Doove, I’ll take you to school.
Here's a tip, Olivia. When you claim you're going to do something, then fail miserably in your attempt to do it, it's not very becoming. Just a thought.

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One, if you are going to bait someone like I do other posters, you need to be sure there is only one dope in the room besides you. No, Doove, it was not a plot or a game on your part. If it were, you wouldn’t have waited till the pile on to say “Just kiddin’; look at dummie, lezzie crush Olivia”.
Let's review, shall we?

1)You can probably count on one hand the number of threads i've started in here.

2)In the midst a conversation where i claim you're taking an Obama quote totally out of context, i start a thread where i proceed to take a Romney quote completely out of context.

3)At the same time, i start incessantly poking COG with a quote of his that i also took totally out of context - going so far as to put it in my signature line.

4)In spite of the fact that the Romney quote in the video i linked to hadn't changed, in only my 6th post in this thread (less than 48 hours after i started the thread) i admitted i took the quote out of context - a mere 8 minutes after your hypocrisy was clearly exposed for everyone to see.

Suggesting i didn't do it intentionally is just, well, bizarre.

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You’re not the cat; you’re not even the mouse;
I'm not claiming to be anything, Olivia. Unlike you, who can't seem to stop patting herself on the back in this post about how you're supposedly some master game player or something. Say it often enough and i suppose some people might actually believe it. So by all means...

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You can’t retort the same thing every time – Lezzie Crush and then out of the blue claim to be the master puppeteer setting traps for the experienced.
Again, i didn't claim to be anything. I'm just pointing out that i took Romney's quote out of context intentionally. Like i said, i wasn't expecting to expose you as the hypocrite that you are. I was only trying to point out that Obama is not the only one who says things that, if taken literally and edited properly, can be made to say things that don't reflect his actual views.

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No one believes it. Not even the few that hate me on here do. One, because I’ve done it to them and two, because I’ve done it to them.
Says the girl who got punked not only in this thread, but in the D-Day thread. Best part is, in neither thread was i even trying to punk her. In both cases i just lucked into it. Thanks to your gullibility.

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If you want to play, let’s play. Join the Spider Hole, and I’ll turn you inside out.
Yeah, you'll turn me inside out alright. See above comment.

I think in the spider hole they would refer to it as one of us playing checkers, and the other playing chess. Not sure that would be an apt comparison in this case, since you seem to be playing tic-tac-toe. And struggling at that.

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I’ll just continue to dismiss your mono-response, the new master game player act and the increasingly erratic arguments and “alliances” unless you either twist my words, which you have done in your subsequent post that I am fixing to address,
I was working off memory, so if i twisted your words in any way, it wasn't intentional. Though i will say, i don't see where you said anything to show that my characterization of what you said was lacking in any way. But you seemed to put a lot of effort into it, so i won't argue the point.
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She probably got pregnant all by herself!

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I think in the spider hole they would refer to it as one of us playing checkers, and the other playing chess. Not sure that would be an apt comparison in this case, since you seem to be playing tic-tac-toe. And struggling at that.


Do not fall into the trap, There is a possibility that your personal information will be outted and the outter will claim it was common knowledge, plus constant lies...not worth it with this one !

Tic-tac-hoe is boring btw.
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She probably got pregnant all by herself!



apparently context still remains to be the issue

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apparently context still remains to be the issue

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Yes, our right wing friends get to apply it to out of context quotes and we so called liberals do not.

And these inbred's want to control government?

Fuc'ers would be telling us what we meant when we said anything!


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I'm not claiming to be anything, Olivia. Unlike you, who can't seem to stop patting herself on the back in this post about how you're supposedly some master game player or something. Say it often enough and i suppose some people might actually believe it. So by all means...
Really. You’re not trying to prove ANYTHING? Not that Mitt is a porn hating righie? Hmmm, who knew. That Post 6 is a mind blowing killa!

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Again, i didn't claim to be anything. I'm just pointing out that i took Romney's quote out of context intentionally.

No, ya didn't. You said some cryptic bullshit that meant something only to you after you realized you didn’t pay attention to your own little clip. You just wanted it so badly for Romeny to do something Chirstiany. I never rushed to porn’s defense the way you rush to all Obama’s stupid Nanny State bullshit. I said he was pandering to his base just like they all do.


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Says the girl who got punked not only in this thread, but in the D-Day thread. Best part is, in neither thread was i even trying to punk her. In both cases i just lucked into it. Thanks to your gullibility.
Now we’re back to your whiplash statements. First you say you were masterminding this whole affair now you say you lucked into it. So I was right in the first place, you were rushing to jump on the Romney hates porn bandwagon. You misunderstood his intent. Either that or you did try to “get one over” on the unEnlightened. Make up your mind.

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Yeah, you'll turn me inside out alright. See above comment.
Your "see above comments" leads me to think and say out loud – LOL. But you won’t come to play. You’ll pansy out. You’ll hide behind the cool kid stuff, but you really mean you don’t want to run the risk of getting your ass handed to you by anyone in there.

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I think in the spider hole they would refer to it as one of us playing checkers, and the other playing chess. Not sure that would be an apt comparison in this case, since you seem to be playing tic-tac-toe. And struggling at that.
Says the man that never starts threads; but when he does, he has the intent of fucking with someone. Except not in this case; in this case he lucked into it, and gave everyone whiplash when he kept contradicting himself. Err something like that. Is there a doctor in the house? I have whip lash and WTF thinks I got myself pregnant.

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I was working off memory, so if i twisted your words in any way, it wasn't intentional. Though i will say, i don't see where you said anything to show that my characterization of what you said was lacking in any way. But you seemed to put a lot of effort into it, so i won't argue the point.
Na, a little bit of time that’s all.

The bottom line is you are a social democrat and I am not. I believe we are rewarded for our hard work. You believe others’ hard work and deeds should reward you and everyone else. The government exists to serve the people not the other way around. All the “help” is bought and paid for by the taxpayers. Either you aren’t earning enough money so you don’t either pay taxes or not enough taxes to realize that fact or you are a wealth-stripping socialist. Whichever the case I have list interest, because your whole defense of your obsessive position with me is some convoluted Lezzie Crush. Is that why you get so obsessed and irate? You think I have it for Hillary? I told you; I’m not into girls.

Peace out on this overly bizarre one.

P.S. You are a free to use the last paragraph in your tag line too LOL.
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I have whip lash and WTF thinks I got myself pregnant.
Nooooooooooooooo, I implied that you would not give a man credit for his part in you getting preggo.

You are a lone wolf, that has never had any help , nor will ever need any. The only person in the history of the world. Congrats!






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Yes, our right wing friends get to apply it to out of context quotes and we so called liberals do not.

And these inbred's want to control government?

Fuc'ers would be telling us what we meant when we said anything!


See...if they ever get in charge, they will tell you wtf you are thinking!

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The bottom line is you are a social democrat and I am not. I believe we are rewarded for our hard work. You believe others’ hard work and deeds should reward you and everyone else. The government exists to serve the people not the other way around. All the “help” is bought and paid for by the taxpayers. Either you aren’t earning enough money so you don’t either pay taxes or not enough taxes to realize that fact or you are a wealth-stripping socialist. Whichever the case I have list interest, because your whole defense of your obsessive position with me is some convoluted Lezzie Crush. .

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Nooooooooooooooo, I implied that you would not give a man credit for his part in you getting preggo.

You are a lone wolf, that has never had any help , nor will ever need any. The only person in the history of the world. Congrats!
So are you saying that you're not my Baby Daddy LOL?
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So are you saying that you're not my Baby Daddy LOL?

you tell him


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It was a joke. I wasn't trying to tell no one nuttin'!

Don't worry COG, he's not really my Baby Daddy.
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It was a joke. I wasn't trying to tell no one nuttin'!

Don't worry COG, he's not really my Baby Daddy.

as was I ... see the at the end of that post?

context is a beeoitch aint it .. (pay special attention in (3-2-1)

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So are you saying that you're not my Baby Daddy LOL?
Baby Jesus had God, you did yours all by yourself!
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