Some Body Needs To Explain To "Harvard Law Professor" President Obama How The Law Works.

[JD Barleycorn]

The founding fathers hated the idea of democracy.

http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2005/tle332-20050814-05.html
http://www.cancertutor.com/Quotes/Qu...residents.html


The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty.

Fisher Ames, speech in the Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, January 15, 1788

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Laz

Yes and yes. The representatives are there based on the desire of the governed. When the governed get fed up with them they get fired and replaced with someone else. Your point is irrelevant. Indirectly it is a democracy. It just takes a long time to make changes which is probably a good thing.

A Constitutional republic and a democracy are as different as night and day. One is sustainable; the other is not. If America had been set up as a democracy we would have failed long ago. The Constitution serves as a firewall. It keeps the people from looting the treasury.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

democrats re-define and confuse and distort both history and words to lead the little ones astray. its quite galling.

[Laz]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

A Constitutional republic and a democracy are as different as night and day. One is sustainable; the other is not. If America had been set up as a democracy we would have failed long ago. The Constitution serves as a firewall. It keeps the people from looting the treasury.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

The point I was trying to make, apparently badly, is that any form of government only continues at the will of the governed. I believe that the public wants us to follow the constitution even when we may not like some of the results because we know that is better than the alternative. That is why the SCOTUS decisions will stand and the president and congress will accept them.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Laz

The point I was trying to make, apparently badly, is that any form of government only continues at the will of the governed. I believe that the public wants us to follow the constitution even when we may not like some of the results because we know that is better than the alternative. That is why the SCOTUS decisions will stand and the president and congress will accept them.

In the long run I think you're right that "that any form of government only continues at the will of the governed". The founders understood this concept. They knew that the Constitution would only endure for as long as our elected representatives were willing to honor their oathes of office.

John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.