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Originally Posted by darkwader
what about asian americans suffering from stockholm syndrome that willingly push white supremacy arguments...surely there are a few of those?
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Define "white supremacy" arguments.
I AM an Asian and I don't need white supremacy arguments to prove that I am correct.
Demagoging an argument because you do not have a proper response is not how you argue.
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Those said states have way lower populous than compared to Illinois's don't you think? One would also argue that there is a highly more concentrated gang activities in the bigger cities, so yeah, food for thought.
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EXACTLY MY POINT. Guns don't shoot people. Dumbass gangsters do in Chicago.
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However, I wouldn't dismiss white nationalism as such a weak impotent ideology the way you're doing. Keep in mind that the alt-right, with it's strong leanings towards white nationalism/white supremacy, have tens of thousands of supporters across the USA...and their number of supporters are increasing fast. Furthermore, the inmates in American prisons are divided among racial lines. American prison gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood and it's many offshoots have many thousands of members, most of them white nationalists/white supremacists.
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I never said white nationalism is a weak and impotent ideology. I said the people who declare themselves such are far and far between. The reality is, the most vocal "White nationalists" are nothing but basement dwelling losers who want to fuck a white girl but know they can't land em because they're too blaming non-whites for their beta attitudes.
I agree that WN is bad idealogy. But then, so is black nationalism. Asian nationalism and so on. If you're only focusing on identity politics, you remove the individual values, which are FAR more important than the levels of melanin in your skin. The reality is, white nationalists can cry and bitch about whites losing their identity but they ONLY have themselves to blame. If they got off their fucking asses and actually landed white women, had white children and all that, they wouldn't have the time crying on Youtube. Fucking beta losers.
As for the Aryan brotherhood and other prison members, I'm sure they're having plenty of fun with the Crips, the Mexican mafia and so on in prison to care about the outside world.
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Also, let's be real though, you're the type of person who'll say anything is left-leaning if it doesn't allign with your idealogy, even if the sources were cited and it was legitimate information being brought up. Like for example, the Supreme Court rulings and how it counters that type of argument in a nutshell.
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The Supreme Court is not infallible. They passed Roe V Wade, which is abortion on demand. They legalized gay marriage. They forced Obamacare because they felt that it was a tax and thus, constitutional. NONE OF THESE WERE LEGISLATED.
So, for you to say that somehow the SC is this infallible argument is laughable.
Also, you have no idea what my ideology is. I will say that I am right leaning but that doesn't mean I'm going to agree with everything the right does. However, with gun rights, unless you present an argument and not some emotional crap, I don't care to read it.
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But boy oh boy, you'll still say something that's Government funded like PBS is biased.
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Yes? I mean, PBS released a documentary about Donald Trump's election, which were full of leftist talking points. Why can't I say that a government funded source has its biases?
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Please, enlighten me with your "real" sources, where do you get your information from?
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My real sources is actually watching the unedited footage. I don't watch a snipit on Fox or CNN or ABC or whatever. I watch what I see, usually from something like CSPAN. Or reading police reports. Or statistics. Do your research, dude. Don't let any fucking network tell you what's what.
When CNN shows a picture of a young Trevon Martin to try and pull at my heartstrings about the shooting but not a more recent picture? That's called bias. When MSNBC says that Brown held his hands up when he got shot, despite police and medical evidence saying otherwise? That's called fake news and a narrative.
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Originally Posted by cavmen
That was back then. Now days no way he would’ve killed 33 with handguns. He would probably need to get something else to kill 33 or more, these days (of course unless he is trained)
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Yeah, I mean it isn't like he can't have an extended magazine, right? Or carry multiple mags on him. Or, you know, walk into a crowded gun free zone and go to town.
You don't know anything about guns, do you looooooooool
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Originally Posted by HotMercury
The fact of the matter is that something needs to be done to reduce gun violence. Doing nothing solves nothing. It's be like if we allowed ourselves to be taken out by the common flu. Yes, there will be deaths, but, vaccines that get created each year using the probable strongest strain reduces deaths.
Same thing with gun restrictions. If we can get on board nationally, shit can get done to at least reduce it. For everyone's sakd, we need to try. That and combat mental health issues as a whole.
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You want to know what can be done??
Parents need to learn how to fucking raise their kids better.
NO AMOUNT of gun laws change shit. So, stop acting like a fucking piece of paper is going to stop criminals. If a guy wants to kill people, he doesn't need a gun to do it. He can just rent a bigass truck, go to a park and start running people down.
It's really easy to kill people even without guns.
