Selfie vs Pro

[Guest072918]

I have to agree with Randall here. IMHO, ladies with professional pics well styled in seductive poses, with attention to background are very attractive. They convey that the lady is indeed professional, is business minded and willing to make an investment in her business to attract higher end clients. Selfies are what you find on BP, girls that are doing this because they need to, not because the want to.

I don't want to generalize too much, but professional, well posed and styled pics, along with a tasteful and well managed website convey a professionalism about your business to clients like me. Others may prefer the "rawness" of selfies, but I've long since stopped seeing ladies based on their looks alone. And yes, I do see ladies that only have selfies, but only if other characteristics match my desires.

I guess I've looked at so many over the years that I can recognize the styles of some of the more popular hobby photographers. Aldo is probably the best in the business, again just MHO.

[Randall Creed]

Well said, Woodford, and you actually probably worded it better than I do/would've. Aldo, Shawn Ro, Derotica, they're all good, and do killer work. Others, too. Where do you think I get my inspiration from. Why doesn't the majority want that? It's not just photography, it's art. Not only does the work make those women look more desirable, but it also improves the appearance of the board itself. Imagine if virtually all the showcases looked crisp and clean with high quality pics.

These board 'walk ons' would then realize that they have a bit of work to do, which should be the case with ANY advancement or progressive situation. After all, Eccie does fancy itself as being step up from BP, or am I talking out of my ass here?

[Fancylady]

Pro pictures are very nice but it business expense and high rates.Selfies good.What does it matter as long as it looks like escorts.

[James1588]

Originally Posted by Randall Creed

... or am I talking out of my ass here?

Yes, pretty much. That signature ... this thread ... as they say, shaking my damn head.

[Randall Creed]

Well, you're no better than BP, so stop putting that site down. I guess that's the root of it, then. You don't want to pay the money for better pictures, but you all want us 'cheap bastard' guys to spend like we're fucking millionaires. Got it.


Oh, btw, you, guy, should be shaking your head at the acceptance of lower quality.

Hmm, maybe I should only start seeing ladies who have professional showcases, as a token for their efforts for investing in their business.

This has been a very enlightening thread, I must say. I want to thank you all for your insight.

[Boudin3112]

Yes, all businesses want to reduce expenses and improve profits! That is how the market place works. Some women are just so into themselves that they think she owns the golden pussy, so she desires the adoring fans and compliments when she gets pro shots, good for her, hope it was worth the cost for her. This is a site that works on reputation and if great pro photos with bad attitude not worth expense but I venture to say that the top notch ladies on here can and will make just as much money without spending more due to her reputation alone. These women do not like us, they just get paid to tolerate us. A pro picture does not show a good business sense to me, all whores are whores. There is no difference between street walkers, BP, or ECCIE ladies, they all do not want us fucking them but tolerate it for the money. They act like they like us because they want us to be repeat revenues not friends.

If I were a guy that paid for an hour and licked, got my dick sucked, pounded and rubbed my clock all over her tits and face for whole hour, she will not want to see me again because all she felt like was a sex toy. If I come in and talk with her cum in her mouth within 10 mins and talk for 30 more mins, then fuck and done in 10 mins. She only had 20 mins of undesired touch, hence easier money for her instead of 60 mins of unwanted touch. Don't you people get it, she is just a sex toy and if she was not going to let us do her we would not be there either.

No woman wants to be a whore, their situation feels desperate and they do what they feel is necessary to make money. Then the money becomes all too easy to make even though each person does not see the damage she is causing to herself. This is a hobby of self centered and grandiose people, so understand your marketplace and you may go farther. MHO.

[Boudin3112]

I am suggesting that we stop insulting each other and BP ladies or any one else. Back handed insults are hurtful as well. Just because you do not see BP women does not mean others don't and well I guess BP has been around for a long time and will continue to exist in spite of your insults. I do not see BP women, but neither do I insult someone for advertising there. I don't look at it at all so maybe Some women on here also advertise there I don't know but Ii try not to insult.

[Randall Creed]

Damn. You just insulted the shit out of them. Now you're backing off. That, my friend, is hilarious.

We'll have to agree to [strongly] disagree about pro vs selfies. Selfies are like, cutting your own hair. Sure, it's cheaper, but you look like shit, and it affects the outward appearance you may present to others.

But, like I said, it's an art form. If you can't appreciate the art part of it, then there's no getting through to you.

I don't hate BP women. I've seen my fair share of them. I even encourage some to come here. For those that are well established on this board should look like they are. Instead, they look like they're on the same level. In that case, why treat them any different.

[jaydalee]

I pay for professional photos twice a year not because my body has changed but because I like to keep my photos fresh.I do have a few selfies(will be adding more soon)in a gallery on my website.
But I like pro photos better than selfies a mixture is great but all the way selfies on website and ads don't work for me.Every lady is different on what works for her.I have worked with Aldo,Megan Love,and now exclusively Black Lotus all are fabulous photographers with different price rates depending on the look you going for.

Many speak about pro photos being photoshopped that may be true for some however many selfies I have seen have been photoshopped.So don't think just because it is a selfie it is always an authentic representation of a provider.

[Grace Preston]

Boudin-- so you want people to not insult BP girls, but you go and insult the whole damned lot of us, from streetwalkers to high end courtesans. Nice!!

In regards to the business expense angle.... if you are properly claiming income (as a business owner should) it is a write off. There is really no excuse for not portraying a professional image if you wish to charge higher level rates.

[Iaintliein]

An important (in my opinion) aspect is also that a photo shoot can (should) be FUN! I'm pretty sure 90% of the ladies I've shot enjoyed shooting, reviewing, and collaborating.

I think the only way photos taken by a professional or experienced amateur can HURT a lady's business is if they are out of date or intentionally manipulated to deceive. And both of those problems can occur with a selfie anyway.

[PsychedelicMut]

Following along with the theme of food. What we want, for the most part, is for the burger in the commercial to match the burger were served. Part of what we want when we decide on a provider is a personal touch or at least the feeling that she wants to make us feel good both in body and in mind. Any pics can be deceptive. Their goal is to attract hobbyists.

Some selfies have a here-it-is-come-fuck-it look. In other words, "I don't care. Just get here, pay me, get it over with, and leave." Others, show that the provider has an interest in presenting themselves as pleasant and pleasurable. They are trying to show off their best attributes and entice us. It is as though she's showing what she has to offer, as opposed to "what you're going get." Some providers are comfortable and extremely good at presenting themselves. Others feel that a professional would be better at highlighting their best features. Yet others, want to make a major production showing off not only beauty, but also talents.

We, the hobbyists, just need to look at the various menus and make our choice. Any of the offerings can be deceptive. Whether we are happy or unhappy after our date is what matters. Who the hell cares who took the pictures?