Voters trust Republicans more on major issues

[1pittsburgh]

Who tried to moderate the thread?

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Even in far right delusional fantasy land, the majority of American voters trust democrats more than republicans.

The majority of votes, not voters.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

The majority of votes, not voters.

Only in fantasy land. 100+ court cases tried. All have failed. Fox lied about it and paid $787 million. In the real world, when most of them turn out to vote, the majority of American voters trust Democrats more than they trust republicans. You can keep repeating a lie that a con man told you as often as you want, but that will never make it become true.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Only in fantasy land. 100+ court cases tried. All have failed. Fox lied about it and paid $787 million. In the real world, when most of them turn out to vote, the majority of American voters trust Democrats more than they trust republicans. You can keep repeating a lie that a con man told you as often as you want, but that will never make it become true.

J doesn't believe that certain votes count. You literally have to be a certain kind of male landowner to have a voice using his particular spin on 1776 norms.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

J doesn't believe that certain votes count.

Yes, the ones that show up in duffle bags at 3am.

You literally have to be a certain kind of male landowner to have a voice using his particular spin on 1776 norms.

Clearly that was satirical, but it should absolutely be more difficult to vote. Show up on election day, pass a short exam that indicates you have a basic understanding of government, and you’re good to go. I’m safe. You’re safe. I’d assume most posters here, given that they’re actively engaged in political banter, are safe as well. These are the kinds of people who SHOULD be voting, not those who don’t know the 3 branches of government or think July 4th is about hotdogs and fireworks. The country is run by idiots because they’re put there by their own kind.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

These are the kinds of people who SHOULD be voting, not those who don’t know the 3 branches of government or think July 4th is about hotdogs and fireworks. The country is run by idiots because they’re put there by their own kind.

Many of your political allies, who trust the republicans, are included amongst the ignorant.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Clearly that was satirical, but it should absolutely be more difficult to vote. Show up on election day, pass a short exam that indicates you have a basic understanding of government, and you’re good to go. I’m safe. You’re safe. I’d assume most posters here, given that they’re actively engaged in political banter, are safe as well. These are the kinds of people who SHOULD be voting, not those who don’t know the 3 branches of government or think July 4th is about hotdogs and fireworks. The country is run by idiots because they’re put there by their own kind.

Again, be careful what you wish for. Having to pass a basic civics exam would disqualify at least ⅓ of GOP voters (and nearly all trump voters).

The thread is about who voters trust more. It's obvious, based on national popular voting, Americans trust Democrats more. Republicans haven't won a national popular vote since 2004.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Only in fantasy land. 100+ court cases tried. All have failed. Fox lied about it and paid $787 million. In the real world, when most of them turn out to vote, the majority of American voters trust Democrats more than they trust republicans. You can keep repeating a lie that a con man told you as often as you want, but that will never make it become true.

Amen. They've all convinced themselves (because their favorite con man can't stop crying about it), but the reality is quite different.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Keep in mind that the elections are a much better indication of who the American voters trust than some small sample size poll is.

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

I'm probably wasting my time trying to get people to understand a basic concept like sample size...

Try me.

You claim the sample size for the OP's poll was too "small" - and therefore the poll results are unreliable and inaccurate, EVEN AS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

So please tell me, what exactly was the actual sample size used in the poll? Or should I say, in the POLLS, since the OP's graph plots how poll sentiment on this particular question has fluctuated over time from 1986 to now.

I assume you looked up the sample size number, right?

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Again, be careful what you wish for. Having to pass a basic civics exam would disqualify at least ⅓ of GOP voters (and nearly all trump voters).

The thread is about who voters trust more. It's obvious, based on national popular voting, Americans trust Democrats more. Republicans haven't won a national popular vote since 2004.

... No ... It's a thread about the polling trend there
that shows Voters Trust the Republicans more on major issues.

and THANKS to Berry for showing us that.

#### Salty

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Try me.

You claim the sample size for the OP's poll was too "small" - and therefore the poll results are unreliable and inaccurate, EVEN AS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

So please tell me, what exactly was the actual sample size used in the poll? Or should I say, in the POLLS, since the OP's graph plots how poll sentiment on this particular question has fluctuated over time from 1986 to now.

I assume you looked up the sample size number, right?

A reasonable person understands that you don't have to look up the sample size to know that it's exponentially smaller than that of the biggest poll, the national presidential election.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

A reasonable person understands that you don't have to look up the sample size to know that it's exponentially smaller than that of the biggest poll, the national presidential election.

No shit, sherlock!

Except the national election isn't a "poll" - it's an actual vote.

The purpose of a poll is to measure voter sentiment IN BETWEEN ACTUAL VOTES. It's a snapshot in time - it seeks to measure how the public would be likely to vote IF AN ELECTION WAS HELD TODAY!

If you want to attack a poll intelligently and claim it isn't accurate or reliable, you would have to find fault in its methodology. As anyone with a background in statistics can attest, a random sample of 800-1000 eligible voters is in fact quite reliable, within the margin of error specified by the polling company. You claim the poll is invalid because of its "small sample size". Yet when I asked you exactly how small it was, you admit you don't even know! Seems to me you're the one who doesn't "understand a basic concept like sample size"!

Berry was right - you irrationally dismiss this poll because you don't like its results. If the only "poll" that matters is the one on Election Day, then why do both major political parties spend hundreds of millions of dollars conducting all manner of opinion polls in between election dates? Why don't you call up the DNC and tell them they're wasting their money!?

An intelligent criticism of this poll (other than one based on methodology) might have pointed out that 1) voter sentiment clearly fluctuates over time, and 2) the Dems still have 13 months left to sway the majority of voters away from their current conviction that Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats are.

[1pittsburgh]

It absolutely is a poll. When you vote you go to your polling place:
https://www.vote.pa.gov/Voting-in-PA...ing-place.aspx
It's the biggest poll that we have, and the most indicative of who the voters trust. That's the whole point of this thread, and the popular vote of the presidential election is by far the most accurate way we have of seeing who the American voters trust, and it's been 19 years since they trusted a republican more, and that was only because most were not yet aware that Dick and Bush lied.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

It absolutely is a poll. When you vote you go to your polling place:
https://www.vote.pa.gov/Voting-in-PA...ing-place.aspx

Yep. Elections are the only polls that really matter. They are the only polls that come with consequences.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

...it's been 19 years since they (American voters) trusted a republican more, and that was only because most were not yet aware that Dick and Bush lied.

Wrong!

This thread is about who they trust more to manage the economy.

Did you miss the OP? The graph below clearly shows that since 2014, Republicans have been trusted more on this metric than Dems, except for a brief hiccup during the pandemic:





By the way, the graph also shows the Dems had a sizable advantage over the Republicans on this issue back in 2007-09, when we were suffering through the Great Recession under Bush. Were those polls inaccurate, unreliable, and meaningless too?