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Old 10-02-2024, 01:40 PM   #61
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Why shouldn't we ban these people? Because "these people" are not all terrorists. Very few are. When Biden rescinded the ban did terrorist activity in the U.S. increase? No. You mention 9/11. Those terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Did we ban travel from Saudi Arabia after 9/11? No. Trump's Muslim ban was totally subjective and did no good for this country.

Should known or suspected terrorists be allowed to enter the U.S.? Obviously not.

As for violent crime. Violent crime is down dramatically under Biden. That is FACT. Most notably murder and rape. Yes, illegal immigrants have committed crimes but statistics show they commit way fewer crimes per capita than U.S. citizens.

Since Biden's EO on immigration, encounters are down significantly. The EO worked!! The EO that was needed because Trump lobbied successfully to not allow a bill to be introduced in Congress which would have done the same thing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/u...trictions.html

Every person who crossed the border is a criminal. Period and end of story.


Then we have these broken heart liberals who want to use my tax money to save the world. How about taking care of the Americans who belong here versus these illegal aliens that don't belong here.


If the illegal aliens have a tough life, sorry about your damn luck. We have veterans who worked and served our country homeless and living on the street that need our care first. I don't want to spend my tax money on some mother that couldn't keep her skanky pussy shut and dropped about 8 kids with 6 different fathers that are paying zero dollars for child support.


Here come the remarks calling me an asshole without actually using that word, especially that one member with stage IV TDS that is unoperable, wanting to call me vile names. It's really simple, my family and fellow Americans come first and there isn't enough money to save the fucking world.


It's real simple even an idiot can see it. If you have $100 in the bank you don't spend $150. These stupid MENSAS in fucking DC with all their law and finance degrees can't even see something as simple as some school kid can see.


So SpeedRacerXXX, I feel the Americans come first and there isn't enough pie to spread around to the rest of the world. I do feel sorry for most of them, however they are at the bottom of my priority list. This just goes to show how incompetent the cunt and dementia joe are to voluntarily and with intent break our laws per each illegal alien crossing and tell the poor people of America to fuck themselves.


Meanwhile in San Francisco showing the absolute filth there. The infamous 'poop map' that Desantis gladly and figuratively shoved down Newsom's throat on a Hannity debate. This is just a small example where more of the money from the pie can go to instead of illegal aliens. Our roads, highways, and bridges are in horrible condition made worse by these hurricanes we've had. Fixing our infrastructure will take several slices of the pie.......and so on.


Lastly, taking care of Americans first, and taking care of our infrastructure should be bipartisan and something liberals and conservatives should work with together.




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Old 10-02-2024, 02:45 PM   #62
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DJ, would you be able to explain to me your understanding of how one applies for asylum?

Critical to understand in order to address your "every person who crossed the border" being a criminal, claim.
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Old 10-02-2024, 03:12 PM   #63
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DJ, would you be able to explain to me your understanding of how one applies for asylum?

Critical to understand in order to address your "every person who crossed the border" being a criminal, claim.
Interested in an answer to this as well.

Based on his previous comments, it would seem that criminals might be in everyone's family.
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Old 10-02-2024, 07:57 PM   #64
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DJ, would you be able to explain to me your understanding of how one applies for asylum?

Critical to understand in order to address your "every person who crossed the border" being a criminal, claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqAA_Y9hY0
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Old 10-02-2024, 08:36 PM   #65
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

You nailed it! Unfortunately, you didn't answer the question. I doubt you understand the question, let alone the answer.

End of story.


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Based on that, you'll want to this

https://www.arizonaimmigration.net/a...sked-questions
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Old 10-02-2024, 10:33 PM   #67
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Every person who crossed the border is a criminal. Period and end of story.

Then we have these broken heart liberals who want to use my tax money to save the world. How about taking care of the Americans who belong here versus these illegal aliens that don't belong here.

If the illegal aliens have a tough life, sorry about your damn luck. We have veterans who worked and served our country homeless and living on the street that need our care first. I don't want to spend my tax money on some mother that couldn't keep her skanky pussy shut and dropped about 8 kids with 6 different fathers that are paying zero dollars for child support.

Here come the remarks calling me an asshole without actually using that word, especially that one member with stage IV TDS that is unoperable, wanting to call me vile names. It's really simple, my family and fellow Americans come first and there isn't enough money to save the fucking world.

It's real simple even an idiot can see it. If you have $100 in the bank you don't spend $150. These stupid MENSAS in fucking DC with all their law and finance degrees can't even see something as simple as some school kid can see.

So SpeedRacerXXX, I feel the Americans come first and there isn't enough pie to spread around to the rest of the world. I do feel sorry for most of them, however they are at the bottom of my priority list.

Our roads, highways, and bridges are in horrible condition made worse by these hurricanes we've had. Fixing our infrastructure will take several slices of the pie.......and so on.

Lastly, taking care of Americans first, and taking care of our infrastructure should be bipartisan and something liberals and conservatives should work with together.
Dear_John,

You are not alone in your beliefs. Nor does that make any one an asshole. However you and others that believe as you do about undocumented immigrants fail to realize that these immigrants are hard working people who want to work hard and to fit in with our society.

As demographics show our society is greying quickly. The majority of our federal budget is going to Social Security, Medicare, and other related services that mostly benefit the elderly.

Undocumented immigrants, when they are integrated into our economy generate more revenue for the people than they do in federal spending. And these benefits last the lifetime of the worker.

If you think mass deportations are the solution then I would suggest you read this.

Mass Deportation: Devastating Costs to America, Its Budget and Economy
https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...ss-deportation
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Old 10-02-2024, 10:59 PM   #68
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Dear_John,

You are not alone in your beliefs. Nor does that make any one an asshole. However you and others that believe as you do about undocumented immigrants fail to realize that these immigrants are hard working people who want to work hard and to fit in with our society.

As a part of my job I worked for 40 years, a lot of my work took me to subdivisions with new homes being built. Most of the workers there were hispanic and all were hard working. A majority of homes being built, whether a subdivision home up to multi-million dollar homes are constructed by hispanic workers, and obviously they do a great job. Legal or illegal, never occurred to me.

As demographics show our society is greying quickly. The majority of our federal budget is going to Social Security, Medicare, and other related services that mostly benefit the elderly.

I just turned 70, so I fully agree.



Undocumented immigrants, when they are integrated into our economy generate more revenue for the people than they do in federal spending. And these benefits last the lifetime of the worker.

My deal is to take care of Americans first. Respectfully put, you seem to see things in the eyes of an idealist, which is not a bad thing, but the real world isn't in this vein.

If you think mass deportations are the solution then I would suggest you read this.

No, mass deportations are not the answer. It's highly unfair that a person who got here illegally has to live on pins and needles wondering if him and his family will be deported, even if his family are tax paying solid citizens, that's no way to have to live.

Bottom line is that there is and always has been a system, but biden/harris opened up a Pandora's box and turned everything upside down. My issue isn't so much the illegal aliens coming in properly and legally, but having them just let in without any kind of criminal checks, is indeed criminal. And not everybody let in will end up working hard, let's not forget the cartels, the MS-13 gangsters that were also let in freely and without any checks.


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This is not a reason to exclude immigrants. Merely an excuse that a demagogue and his followers use to make people feel afraid. I could provide convincing statistics that would show the numbers of citizens who murder, rape and commit other crimes are as high or higher as a percentage of the population.

If we provide our best efforts to integrating these people into our community then we all benefit as a result. Good legislation is needed to ensure that we welcome those that meet our standards and that those who we don’t want don’t come in or are quickly removed.
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If we provide our best efforts to integrating these people into our community then we all benefit as a result. Good legislation is needed to ensure that we welcome those that meet our standards and that those who we don’t want don’t come in or are quickly removed.

We're traveling different highways, but it appears the target city is the same.
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We're traveling different highways, but it appears the target city is the same.
Yet you refuse to answer the question asked in previous posts.

It seems as though many ECCIE MAGAs are horribly confused on our immigration laws and regulations.

Makes for an emotiona discussion rather than a debate on facts.
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Old 10-04-2024, 09:13 AM   #72
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Every person who crossed the border is a criminal. Period and end of story.

That is one of the most incorrect statements ever made on this forum.
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That is one of the most incorrect statements ever made on this forum.

I stand by my comment, so get off your high horse. Those who do everything they can to get here legally aren't criminals, but those not coming in properly is a criminal and is breaking the law. Which makes biden/harris/myorkas a part of a conspiracy to bypass established laws to get into our country illegally. You might as well call them mules because that's what they are.
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I stand by my comment, so get off your high horse. Those who do everything they can to get here legally aren't criminals, but those not coming in properly is a criminal and is breaking the law. Which makes biden/harris/myorkas a part of a conspiracy to bypass established laws to get into our country illegally. You might as well call them mules because that's what they are.
That’s a question that I would like answered. What laws are actually being broken if someone crosses the border from Canada or Mexico into the United States?
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... Let's NOT get silly there, mates.

Rather obvious that Dear John means ILLEGALLY crossing the border.

But we can all thank Border Czar Kamala for NOT closing the
border and allowing the illegal migrant surge...

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