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09-03-2019, 11:22 AM
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i'd support regulating private sales .. under two conditions .. the left abandon any attempt at banning so-called "assault-style weapons" and they reaffirm the 2nd amendment as a fundamental right of lawful citizens to own firearms.
I don't agree that background checks would violate the Constitution as it would fall under "well regulated". I do agree that it is NOT the be all to end all future domestic terror attack.
thank you valued grammar nazi .. but i'm not Yssup Rider so don't sweat it
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I gave this thread some serious thought. As I was writing my opinions, and that's all they are, ideas and points came to mind and, as I proof read (past tense), the final piece looked and felt dicombobulated to me.
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The notion that the 2nd Amendment states that an individual must belong to the militia to possess a weapon is ass backwards and is therefore emphatically false. The 2nd Amendment states that the militia is dependent on the citizen who already -- as an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT -- possesses a weapon; not vice versa.
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Agreed. As I undersrand, and dare I say interpret, the Constitution does not mean the militia has to be organized. No more than evey farmer or homeowner has to be organized. Just too many citizens to care for.
Whether using your home or farm to manufacture contra ban or not, it is up to each citizens to responsibly use their property. Organized or not. But ownership should be public information order to find those responsible if the law is broken or public health is at risk.
Before I "get off on" a rant, owners of all firearms should be tracked. If you consider yourself a responsible owner. Like a Meth-house owner or "independent" Marijuana farmer, everyone's privacy is crucial to the equation.
Beleive it or not, I'm not a conscientious objector. I'm far left but not a tree huggin', NAMBLA defendin', ban all firearms, kumbaya singin' peacenik. I served. I see the value of, and enthusiasm for, defense weapons. I'm reminded of Forrest Gump assembling the rifle in company record time. (Okay okay I'll close)
The idea for the thread was a good one, but with almost 250 years of interpretation and redefining of the law, it was flawed from the word go. As the end of the Enlightenment Era came to a close, the shot heard 'round the world would start the march toward liberty. Now . . . let's talk slavery and the Native experience.
Thank God for public schools, PBS, and C-SPAN.
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09-03-2019, 12:22 PM
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Whether using your home or farm to manufacture contra ban or not, it is up to each citizens to responsibly use their property. Organized or not. But ownership should be public information order to find those responsible if the law is broken or public health is at risk. Just the way the Nazis did it!
Before I "get off on" a rant, owners of all firearms should be tracked. If you consider yourself a responsible owner. Like a Meth-house owner or "independent" Marijuana farmer, everyone's privacy is crucial to the equation. Bullshit equivalence.
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09-03-2019, 12:56 PM
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I'm far left but not a tree huggin', NAMBLA defendin', ban all firearms, kumbaya singin' peacenik.
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Huh? NAMBLA defendin'? Who does that? Do you even know what it is? Wtf!
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09-03-2019, 01:12 PM
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And what did the Nazis do with the information? That is a bullshit equivalence. Just having the information in a registry is different. No need to take proactive action. Only reactive.
We cannot assume something might happen. But of course your conspiracy ladened mind won't lend itself to just having information. You would assume some nefarious scheme. Think of it like the Post Office.
The meth and marijuana comparison was a stretch. The states that regulate marijuana is a better analogy. ALL firearms sales should be tracked. On a Federal level. Meth is illegal.
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09-03-2019, 01:12 PM
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9500 is staking out DPST "territory" for their plantation Politics!
To add to the Free stuff planks of the 2020 DPST Platform
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09-03-2019, 01:13 PM
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Huh? NAMBLA defendin'? Who does that? Do you even know what it is? Wtf!
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Reread the sentence. Why would I bring that up if I didn't know what it was?
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09-03-2019, 01:18 PM
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9500 is staking out DPST "territory" for their plantation Politics!
To add to the Free stuff planks of the 2020 DPST Platform
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Little angry boy. These are my opinions only. Get off the right wing hook. Open your little mind little boy. Come up with new material. You have no style. Why don't you just stick to filling up the cartoon thread puny?
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09-03-2019, 01:18 PM
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And what did the Nazis do with the information? That is a bullshit equivalence. Just having the information in a registry is different. No need to take proactive action. Only reactive.
We cannot assume something might happen. But of course your conspiracy ladened mind won't lend itself to just having information. You would assume some nefarious scheme. Think of it like the Post Office.
The meth and marijuana comparison was a stretch. The states that regulate marijuana is a better analogy. ALL firearms sales should be tracked. On a Federal level. Meth is illegal.
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Registry is the first step towards confiscation. That's what the Nazis did, and today's dim-retards embrace all of the trappings of Nazi-state authoritarianism.
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09-03-2019, 01:27 PM
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Registry is the first step towards confiscation. That's what the Nazis did, and today's dim-retards embrace all of the trappings of Nazi-state authoritarianism.
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See. I knew it. Do you think the Post Office should be disbanded and left to Amazon? Haha! Nobody's going to confiscate your penis commensurate.
Now let's devolve into the stupidity. After such a congenial and cordial debate/discussion.
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09-03-2019, 01:37 PM
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See. I knew it. Do you think the Post Office should be disbanded and left to Amazon? Haha! Nobody's going to confiscate your penis commensurate.
Now let's devolve into the stupidity. After such a congenial and cordial debate/discussion.
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Your ilk is a bunch of damnable "nobodies" that's for sure! And you're obviously not comprehending what the fuck your "nobodies" running for president are preaching.
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09-03-2019, 01:56 PM
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Reread the sentence. Why would I bring that up if I didn't know what it was?
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I did reread it.
So you're saying most of your far-left buddies share a proclivity for (forbidden topic). You want us to know that although you are far left, you don't indulge in the same perverted, predatory and illegal activities that your "NAMBLA defending" ideological brethren do.
Got it!
Hmmmm.... ya thinks the dems will add a plank to their 2020 Convention platform defending NAMBLA? Maybe Bill Clinton can also deliver a nice eulogy for Jeffrey Epstein!
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09-03-2019, 02:18 PM
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France registered weapons prior to World War II. Guess what the Germans did after they defeated France?
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09-03-2019, 02:58 PM
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I did reread it.
So you're saying most of your far-left buddies share a proclivity for (forbidden topic). You want us to know that although you are far left, you don't indulge in the same perverted, predatory and illegal activities that your "NAMBLA defending" ideological brethren do.
Got it!
Hmmmm.... ya thinks the dems will add a plank to their 2020 Convention platform defending NAMBLA? Maybe Bill Clinton can also deliver a nice eulogy for Jeffrey Epstein!
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How's the soup?
GOD DAMN YOUR FUCKIN' STUPID! If the waiter asks me how the soup is and I say I didn't care for it and he tells the manager I said the soup tasted like shit and then the manager fires the chef and then the chef shoots up the restaurant and some toddler dies is it my faul?
Do you see how stupid you sound? Got it? You read waaay too much into that. Stop being stupid.
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09-03-2019, 04:02 PM
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9500-
How's the soup?
GOD DAMN YOUR FUCKIN' STUPID! If the waiter asks me how the soup is and I say I didn't care for it and he tells the manager I said the soup tasted like shit and then the manager fires the chef and then the chef shoots up the restaurant and some toddler dies is it my faul?
Do you see how stupid you sound? Got it? You read waaay too much into that. Stop being stupid.
9500- of course it is not "Your fault". In answer to your entirely hypothetical question and scenario.
It is all "Trump"s fault" -- Of Course!!! Standard DPST denial for any responsibility for One's own actions - Everything is the Government's responsibility.
Thank You! LOL
I suggest SomeOne settle down with the name-calling. The Mods may still be around.
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09-03-2019, 04:18 PM
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France registered weapons prior to World War II. Guess what the Germans did after they defeated France?
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They confiscated the guns.
It was similarly an automatic death sentence to possess a firearm in Nazi occupied Poland, but the Jews in Warsaw nevertheless didn't go like lambs to the slaughter. Instead, they stood up in revolt against the evil Nazi regime.
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