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12-13-2021, 11:03 PM
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I don’t believe any of that shit either. Hannity, Ingram et al would never stand up to the Scheissfuhrer. If anything, they beat the drum.
This is all kibuki make believe bullshit.
I wish we all can wake up from that.
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12-14-2021, 05:34 AM
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Who is our current President?
Why are we discussing Trump? He is no longer President. Attacking past Presidents does not help our nation move forward. Every time a person mentions Trump it is merely a tactic to avoid discussing our current President and his administration.
Let us stay on topic and I am looking for the good out of our current leadership, something that helps our country, our people and our lives. I cannot think of a single good thing that Biden is responsible for, but if someone here knows one please inform me as I care not about which side wins or loses because that attitude only drives us farther apart.
I want my country to reunite, to have pride in being an American not in being liberal or conservative. Biden is certainly not looking to have a United country, the single most important political issue today is unifying this great country again. What has Biden done to achieve that, to achieve a better life for Americans?
Who is responsible for high gas prices and a run away inflation rate? Who says he cares about Covid safety but allows 100,000s of illegals into the country without tests and the killer for me is who is responsible for the failure of Afghanistan? Who allowed Americans and our allies to die and be then claimed it was successful. If anyone ever believed Biden was an honest man there is no way you can believe it after Afghanistan. That was a failure on epic proportions.
I am an American, not a liberal nor a conservative, a free thinker that wants to join fellow Americans in our core beleifs freedom, justice, and the.pursuit of happiness for all.
How can a person claim to believe a womans body is her own and she has the right to choose to abort her fetus but then says your body is not your own when it comes to vaccinations. And the opposite for Republicans, how can believe a woman has no right to choose but we get to choose what is put in our bodies?? We forget the basic tenet of FREEDOM. Let's remain a free country and allow others to choose for themselves whether to wear a helmet on a motorcycle or not, whether to get an abortion, whether to wear a seat belt or not, we have the right to be stupid and do dumb things as we all have from time to time, but we also do the right thing most of the time. Let's get back to freedom for every American despite what you believe is right or wrong.
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12-14-2021, 08:06 AM
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... Thanks, Computer-wise... I appreciate your post and surely
agree-with much of what you mention.
However, the thread topic is that people are no longer
sitting idly-by and letting the main stream news media shape
how they responde to things. The media cannot defend their-own lies.
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12-14-2021, 08:19 AM
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#64
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Originally Posted by Computerwise
Why are we discussing Trump? He is no longer President. Attacking past Presidents does not help our nation move forward. Every time a person mentions Trump it is merely a tactic to avoid discussing our current President and his administration.
Let us stay on topic and I am looking for the good out of our current leadership, something that helps our country, our people and our lives. I cannot think of a single good thing that Biden is responsible for, but if someone here knows one please inform me as I care not about which side wins or loses because that attitude only drives us farther apart.
I want my country to reunite, to have pride in being an American not in being liberal or conservative. Biden is certainly not looking to have a United country, the single most important political issue today is unifying this great country again. What has Biden done to achieve that, to achieve a better life for Americans?
Who is responsible for high gas prices and a run away inflation rate? Who says he cares about Covid safety but allows 100,000s of illegals into the country without tests and the killer for me is who is responsible for the failure of Afghanistan? Who allowed Americans and our allies to die and be then claimed it was successful. If anyone ever believed Biden was an honest man there is no way you can believe it after Afghanistan. That was a failure on epic proportions.
I am an American, not a liberal nor a conservative, a free thinker that wants to join fellow Americans in our core beleifs freedom, justice, and the.pursuit of happiness for all.
How can a person claim to believe a womans body is her own and she has the right to choose to abort her fetus but then says your body is not your own when it comes to vaccinations. And the opposite for Republicans, how can believe a woman has no right to choose but we get to choose what is put in our bodies?? We forget the basic tenet of FREEDOM. Let's remain a free country and allow others to choose for themselves whether to wear a helmet on a motorcycle or not, whether to get an abortion, whether to wear a seat belt or not, we have the right to be stupid and do dumb things as we all have from time to time, but we also do the right thing most of the time. Let's get back to freedom for every American despite what you believe is right or wrong.
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Close but not quite. Trump is all the democrats have at the moment. Allow them to vent their spleens impotently. As for Biden, he is uniting the country...against him and his ilk. People are starting to see him and her for who they really are, zeroes.
The thing about Biden (and you sound like you voted for him) is that we (the right) knew that he was corrupt and incompetent before the election. So anyone who disagreed was wrong, very wrong and should probably sit out the next couple of elections. We knew about Moscow, Ukraine, and China. We knew about the laptop, spies, and hookers for Hunter. Still, you voted for him.
As for a woman's "right to choose", people on the right believe in choice. Just make it BEFORE you get pregnant. The vast majority of abortions today are for convenience or birth control. The human baby inside the woman has different DNA so it is another person. A person totally dependent on the mother who may have made a bad choice. A man or woman who enlists may have made a bad choice but they have four years to think about it. A woman only has nine months and she can give the baby away. Just because a baby is dependent does not give someone the right to kill it. A lot of old folks and injuried people are totally dependent as well.
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12-14-2021, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... He's NOT been wrong about things of "actual significance"
very many times, mates.
So it's NOT a concern to me. ... onley a concern to you Trump Haters.
This thread is about the Great Awakening - that people actually
understand that the main stream media has lied to them constantly.
And they are tuning them out.
Now, do YOU fellows have ANY thoughts on this matter?
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You literally believe the mess Trump says and does. That’s a level of stupidity rivaling Bambino.
You’re still in the Great Asleepening. The loud minority of people yelling ignorance from the rafters but still not doing anything that matters. Yes the Dems will lose seats in 22. Hell, that’s happened in nearly every off year presidential election cycle. No surprise there. If you really believe it’s because people that think like you have awakened, you’re dumber that Dilbert, and that dude is pretty dumb.
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12-14-2021, 09:53 AM
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You literally believe the mess Trump says and does. That’s a level of stupidity rivaling Bambino.
You’re still in the Great Asleepening. The loud minority of people yelling ignorance from the rafters but still not doing anything that matters. Yes the Dems will lose seats in 22. Hell, that’s happened in nearly every off year presidential election cycle. No surprise there. If you really believe it’s because people that think like you have awakened, you’re dumber that Dilbert, and that dude is pretty dumb.
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Dilbert isn't as dumb as you think and you aren't as smart as you think you are. You should take Barleycorn's advice and sit it out.
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12-14-2021, 10:52 AM
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Well I won’t argue with you about who’s dumb and who isn’t. This is an opinion forum (Lord knows facts are irrelevant here) and my opinion of the various posters are what they are (though from what I read in their posts I believe I have a legitimate basis to think the way I do). I’ll chalk it up to - We can agree to disagree.
I also don’t take advice from Barleycorn. Hell I also don’t take advice from you. So that subject can now be closed as addressed.
I stand by the rest of my previous statement. The political winds as always will swing back and forth and that’s the way it is, was and will be.
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12-14-2021, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Thanks, Computer-wise... I appreciate your post and surely
agree-with much of what you mention.
However, the thread topic is that people are no longer
sitting idly-by and letting the main stream news media shape
how they responde to things. The media cannot defend their-own lies.
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Trump tried this with bypassing the main stream news MEDIA, and using TWITTER as his microphone....and look what happened. Now he is reinventing himself with his own media channel.
But he does like to appear on FOX. And he is currently on a short tour with none other than Bill O'Reilly. Ticket sales are slow.
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12-14-2021, 11:03 AM
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You assume too much Barleycorn. You do not know who I voted for and I will tell you it was not for Biden. But as an American I accept that the election did not go as I preferred and gave the man, Biden, a shot to do good for us, show me why I was wrong in not voting for him. He failed miserably.
It is called having an open mind, realizing I could have been wrong about not voting for Biden. I am not a person that believes you are with me all the way or you are my enemy. I like my fellow Americans, conservative and liberal. I accept that people think differently, what I do not like is the attitude being displayed here that your way is the only way and the right way. Have you ever made a mistake in your entire life? I would gamble you have. And could you make a mistake again in the future, I would gamble you will as I will and everyone here will. I just American to become a free country again and we as Americans live in harmony.
I understand your bveleifs on abortion but again, you are not a divine entity meaning you could be wrong. I think abortion is murder and for me would never agree with it, but that does not mean I am God and therefore, I know when a soul is attached to physical matter creating life. Because science cannot tell me, I cannot prove it is murder. But I am man enough to say life may start in the 3rd trimester or upon birth, I do not know. Thus, I cannot force my beliefs onto my fellow Americans and nor will I. But my personal beleifs are pretty much dwon this same line for all issues. I will lean toward freedom of choice until I learn that another person's rights are violated beyond a reasonable doubt. Or until I know life is created up entry of the sperm into the egg. Then that baby's rights are violated by an abortion. Maybe one day science will be advanced enough to tell us, until then I will always lean toward freedom.
I suggest we as a nation open our minds and rid ourselves of this mentality of either your against abortion or your my enemy, either you get vaccinated or your my enemy, either you lean right or left or your my enemy. We can all be right at times and we can all be worng at other times. Allow yourself the humility to be wrongand we will start compromising and moving froward again instead of left and right. See, barleycorn you were wrong about thinking I would vote for Biden, so you too can be wrong just as I can in gving Biden a chance to do some good for the United States.
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12-14-2021, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NoirMan
Well I won’t argue with you about who’s dumb and who isn’t. This is an opinion forum (Lord knows facts are irrelevant here) and my opinion of the various posters are what they are (though from what I read in their posts I believe I have a legitimate basis to think the way I do). I’ll chalk it up to - We can agree to disagree.
I also don’t take advice from Barleycorn. Hell I also don’t take advice from you. So that subject can now be closed as addressed.
I stand by the rest of my previous statement. The political winds as always will swing back and forth and that’s the way it is, was and will be.
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You don't have to take advice from any man and in most cases you probably shouldn't. Most importantly you shouldn't give any either.
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12-14-2021, 11:44 AM
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I vote gayer!
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Dilbert isn't as dumb as you think and you aren't as smart as you think you are. You should take Barleycorn's advice and sit it out.
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But is Barleycornhole as gay or gayer than he posts? That is the real question!
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12-14-2021, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Computerwise
. Biden is certainly not looking to have a United country, the single most important political issue today is unifying this great country again. What has Biden done to achieve that, to achieve a better life for Americans? .
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I vote he has done exactly as much as Trump and not a dime more or less!
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12-14-2021, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Computerwise
You assume too much Barleycorn. You do not know who I voted for and I will tell you it was not for Biden. But as an American I accept that the election did not go as I preferred and gave the man, Biden, a shot to do good for us, show me why I was wrong in not voting for him. He failed miserably.
It is called having an open mind, realizing I could have been wrong about not voting for Biden. I am not a person that believes you are with me all the way or you are my enemy. I like my fellow Americans, conservative and liberal. I accept that people think differently, what I do not like is the attitude being displayed here that your way is the only way and the right way. Have you ever made a mistake in your entire life? I would gamble you have. And could you make a mistake again in the future, I would gamble you will as I will and everyone here will. I just American to become a free country again and we as Americans live in harmony.
I understand your bveleifs on abortion but again, you are not a divine entity meaning you could be wrong. I think abortion is murder and for me would never agree with it, but that does not mean I am God and therefore, I know when a soul is attached to physical matter creating life. Because science cannot tell me, I cannot prove it is murder. But I am man enough to say life may start in the 3rd trimester or upon birth, I do not know. Thus, I cannot force my beliefs onto my fellow Americans and nor will I. But my personal beleifs are pretty much dwon this same line for all issues. I will lean toward freedom of choice until I learn that another person's rights are violated beyond a reasonable doubt. Or until I know life is created up entry of the sperm into the egg. Then that baby's rights are violated by an abortion. Maybe one day science will be advanced enough to tell us, until then I will always lean toward freedom.
I suggest we as a nation open our minds and rid ourselves of this mentality of either your against abortion or your my enemy, either you get vaccinated or your my enemy, either you lean right or left or your my enemy. We can all be right at times and we can all be worng at other times. Allow yourself the humility to be wrongand we will start compromising and moving froward again instead of left and right. See, barleycorn you were wrong about thinking I would vote for Biden, so you too can be wrong just as I can in gving Biden a chance to do some good for the United States.
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Pay no attention to barelycorn.
Pay attention to the market.
It is up over 8k points since the election.
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12-14-2021, 01:05 PM
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Pay attention to the market.
It is up over 8k points since the election.
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Dude, why did you have to go and say that? Now the Trumpsters are going to start bitching about inflation and oil prices again.
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12-14-2021, 01:35 PM
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Cross post-apocalyptic
Joe and da Ho are doing this. Not Trump. (cross posted)
Inflation is pretty bad when you don't count most of what you normally purchase (red line), but is more bad when you do (black line)
The producer price index is basically price from manufacturers of big-ticket items to wholesalers, i.e. consumers don't see it yet. This is what is in the pipe so to speak.
If you don't pay attention, you won't see this coming either
You've been warned
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