Racism amongst the republican constituents

[Charley3]

According to the FBI 2019 Uniform Crime Report, African-Americans accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 41.1%, and "Other" 3% in cases where the race was known. Including homicide offenders where the race was unknown, African-Americans accounted for 39.6% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 29.1%, "Other" 2.1%, and "Unknown" 29.3%[49]

The above is from Wikipedia. If you’re Democrat pointing this out is racist. If you’re Republican you are pointing out the obvious. 13% of the population is committing 55% of the murders in this country. It’s actually worse than I thought. Wow

Actually I should say not all Democrats think this is racist. Many don’t, including AA democrats. Some realize a lot of blame is in the mirror. The rest want to deflect and call us racist.

[1pittsburgh]

You're just now learning about Cus D'Amato's influence on Mike Tyson? Teaching him how to box wasn't as an aside. It was the entire reason for Mike being there. Bobby Stewart brought him to Cus because he saw his potential, and Cus immediatly knew that he'd found his next heavy weight champion of the world. Cus had previously trained world champions Floyd Patterson and Jose Torres, who are also in the boxing hall of fame. Definitely sad that Cus died before Mike fulfilled that goal. I also think, and have heard Mike say that he probably would have steered clear of some of the trouble he got into after he was champ, if Cus had lived another ten years. Cus would have probably helped kept the leeches away too.

I've listened to Mike talk about it many times including three long format interviews on Howard Stern, on Tyson's one man show "Undisputed Truth," on his podcast, and on other people's podcasts. Mike is an introspective and thoughtful person, a boxing historian, and seems to be more at peace with himself than ever before, partly thanks to psychedelics. He's also been able to build back some of his wealth after going broke and owing the IRS millions.


But what does that have to do with the fact that there are more racists amongst the republican constituents than amongst the democrat constituents? It's not really on topic.

You brought up Tucker, well it's no coincidence that his top writer was caught being explicitly racist when he thought that he was anonymous.


BTW, in his book Iron Ambition, where Mike mainly talks about his time with Cus, he says that Cus had socialist tendencies. It's an interesting book. I highly recommend it.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Charley3

According to the FBI 2019 Uniform Crime Report, African-Americans accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 41.1%, and "Other" 3% in cases where the race was known. Including homicide offenders where the race was unknown, African-Americans accounted for 39.6% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 29.1%, "Other" 2.1%, and "Unknown" 29.3%[49]

The above is from Wikipedia. If you’re Democrat pointing this out is racist. If you’re Republican you are pointing out the obvious. 13% of the population is committing 55% of the murders in this country. It’s actually worse than I thought. Wow

Actually I should say not all Democrats think this is racist. Many don’t, including AA democrats. Some realize a lot of blame is in the mirror. The rest want to deflect and call us racist.

Why do you keep repeating the same stats without looking at the economic factors and population density factors? You're just doing surface analysis as an attempt to justify people's racism.

I've already shown that both NFL and NBA players, who are predominantly black, commit crimes at a much lower rate than the general public, and even lower when compared to their specific age demographic, despite the racist mischaracterizations of them made by prominent republicans. The key difference being that they have money.

[Charley3]

That’s a ridiculous argument. You're really using multimillionaire pro athletes as your argument? Lol
You are also making the same argument. I’ll make this post and then I’m done with the same old shit here.
When the rest of this country starts seeing the AA community start looking in the mirror, look at what THEY can do better. Make an effort to be better fathers. Hold each other accountable for their off the chart violence, then, and only then will they see results.
Pointing at signs at a football field or any other of the asinine things people are constantly accused of being racist is counterproductive, including your point of view. Trust me.

[Devo]

Why bring up Tyson?

Aduh.

How could a racist admire or respect someone of another race?

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Cult 45 is a derogatory comment but libtard isn’t? Can somebody explain that one?

No. Not when It's said with love and affection as is the norm in the forum here in the home of the three rivers

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Devo

Why bring up Tyson?

Aduh.

How could a racist admire or respect someone of another race?

If you think admiring or respecting one person of another race completely disqualifies a person from being racist, you're way out of touch with the subject. Lets take Michael Jordan for example. Hundreds of millions of people admire and respect him around the world. You think out of those hundreds of millions there's not a single racist? Or Mike Tyson, you think there's not a single racist amongst his fans? I guess it's not surprising, given that you try to justify you views by saying that one black kid pointe a gun at you decades ago, and other black guy threw a present to you.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Charley3

That’s a ridiculous argument. You're really using multimillionaire pro athletes as your argument? Lol
You are also making the same argument. I’ll make this post and then I’m done with the same old shit here.
When the rest of this country starts seeing the AA community start looking in the mirror, look at what THEY can do better. Make an effort to be better fathers. Hold each other accountable for their off the chart violence, then, and only then will they see results.
Pointing at signs at a football field or any other of the asinine things people are constantly accused of being racist is counterproductive, including your point of view. Trust me.

Yep, because you want to give the most basic of statistics, with no analysis or adjustment for income, let alone the affects of hundreds of years of systemic racism, so I showed that amongst more affluent black people, the statistics are the opposite of the ones you presented. Even amongst affluent testosterone filled alpha males who are public targets.

But that doesn't even matter to the context of this thread, because all you keep doing is making justifications for people's racism. The belief that a race is inferior to another is a textbook form of racism, regardless of any statistics. There's not any caveat in the definitions that says "unless justified by statistics." Refusing to hire people because of their race is also a textbook example of racism as defined in the dictionary, and there's no caveat that says "unless you're worried about being branded as a racist."

It's clear to those who care to see the truth about it that there are more racists amongst the republican constituents than there are amongst the democrat constituents. The excuses that you, devo, and MAGA gurl keep making don't change that fact, and they don't excuse the racism.


You can't show the democrat equivalent of David Duke, a Klansman who never disavowed the Klan, getting 60,000 residents of a single state to vote for him as recently as 2016.

You can't show me a top writer from CNN who recently got caught being explicitly racist online when they thought they were anonymous like Carlson's top writer did.

You can't show me the racist democrat equivalent of Rush Limbaugh who when he had 20 million republican listeners made the racist statement that the NBA should be called the Thug Basketball Association, and that the teams should be called gangs.

You can't show me the racist democrat equivalent of the Unite the Right rally where they protested the removal of monuments to a white supremacist, and chanted "jews will not replace us."

You can't show me the democrat equivalent of Donald Trump, who became the most popular republican in history partly by spewing all kind of hateful rhetoric including racist mischaracterizations of the mexicans coming here, repeatedly questioning the country of origin of the first black president, claiming that he would ban all muslims, and telling a congresswoman to go back to where she came from (africa) etc.

All you can do is make excuses for their racism, but the simple fact of the matter is that there are more racists amongst the republican constituents than amongst the democrat constituents.

[The_Waco_Kid]

let's cut to the chase shall we? 1p claims that the republican party is more racist than the democratic party, based on two things. one he clearly thinks Donald Trump is a racist, which he isn't and trying to paint the majority or at least more republicans as racist compared to democrats, based on isolated incidents which he claims because they occurred in what he claims are red areas it proves his point. to his credit, 1p doesn't deny some democrats are racist. he just thinks, based on only his opinion and disdain for Trump, that "clearly" more republicans must be racist than democrats.


so the real question is ... which party is fundamentally more racist compared to the other?


which party opposed ending slavery thus causing the Civil War? the Democratic party.


which party after losing the Civil War had former CSA officers that founded the KKK? the Democratic party.


which party after the Civil War ushered in segregation and Jim Crow in the south? the Democratic party.


Which party voted against the Civil Right Act in a larger percentage of members than the other? the Democratic party.


yet despite these facts 1p wants to brand the republican party as more racist than the democratic party based on three words.



Donald John Trump.


nonsense.

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