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01-31-2024, 08:23 PM
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LOL!!!! Holy shit. Not even close. Please tell me you posted this for shock value.
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That’s actually echoing Terry Bradshaw, whom I agree with wholeheartedly.
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02-01-2024, 10:02 AM
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That’s actually echoing Terry Bradshaw, whom I agree with wholeheartedly.
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Wow! I hope you and Terry Bradshaw are right but I disagree completely.
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02-01-2024, 01:13 PM
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That’s actually echoing Terry Bradshaw, whom I agree with wholeheartedly.
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Bradshaw has been losing it for years, and that's just further proof. What, exactly, has Kenny shown thus far to warrant anyone thinking he's anything other than below average? Because the numbers say he's in the bottom 5 of every major QB category.
And as long as we're name dropping, Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe thinks Kenny is hot garbage. Calls him "Lil' 2 Gloves" lol.. I happen to agree with that assessment.
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02-01-2024, 03:09 PM
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Lucky for the Steelers Chuck Noll wasn’t looking for your kind of instant gratification. Pickett has played WAY better than Terry in his early career. Bradshaw was booed out of the stadium and nearly the city. Pretty sure he did some good things after settling in.
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02-01-2024, 03:26 PM
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Lucky for the Steelers Chuck Noll wasn’t looking for your kind of instant gratification. Pickett has played WAY better than Terry in his early career. Bradshaw was booed out of the stadium and nearly the city. Pretty sure he did some good things after settling in.
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Again don’t see it but I would love it. Kenny seems like a decent human and everyone says he’s a hard worker.
His problem has been it hasn’t yet transferred to the games. He just hasn’t shown anything to get exited about. Arm talent, pocket awareness, doesn’t even bring a sense of passion that the great ones all have. Hope it changes.
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02-01-2024, 08:24 PM
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Again don’t see it but I would love it. Kenny seems like a decent human and everyone says he’s a hard worker.
His problem has been it hasn’t yet transferred to the games. He just hasn’t shown anything to get exited about. Arm talent, pocket awareness, doesn’t even bring a sense of passion that the great ones all have. Hope it changes.
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i think it's a bit early to throw Kenny under the bus yes? i mean .. isn't it Tomlin's responsibility to develop talent? so that said ..
what's you SteelHeads draft position? can you go get one of the top QBs like Caleb Williams or Drake Maye?
if SteelHeads mgmt thinks so then go trade up and get the next Benji and enjoy the ride.
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02-01-2024, 08:34 PM
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i think it's a bit early to throw Kenny under the bus yes? i mean .. isn't it Tomlin's responsibility to develop talent? so that said ..
what's you SteelHeads draft position? can you go get one of the top QBs like Caleb Williams or Drake Maye?
if SteelHeads mgmt thinks so then go trade up and get the next Benji and enjoy the ride.
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I nailed the Broderick Jones pick last year so look for Frazier the WVU center in the 1st round. Or the center from Oregon. Pickett will never be a top tier NFL QB. He doesn’t have it. They could get Russell Wilson for a song or trade for Justin Fields. Both are better fits for the new OC.
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02-01-2024, 08:41 PM
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Lucky for the Steelers Chuck Noll wasn’t looking for your kind of instant gratification. Pickett has played WAY better than Terry in his early career. Bradshaw was booed out of the stadium and nearly the city. Pretty sure he did some good things after settling in.
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Yeah, no. The team around Pickett is 10x better than what Bradshaw had to endure his first couple years. Kenny's only thrown multiple TDs one time (in 24 starts). Compared to Mason, who's done it 9 times in 16 starts, and Mason's not that great either.
Pickett's a bust. He's slow and dumb. Low football IQ. Can't see the field or read defenses for shit. I predict he'll go down as one of the worst 1st round picks in franchise history.
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02-01-2024, 08:47 PM
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I nailed the Broderick Jones pick last year so look for Frazier the WVU center in the 1st round. Or the center from Oregon. Pickett will never be a top tier NFL QB. He doesn’t have it. They could get Russell Wilson for a song or trade for Justin Fields. Both are better fits for the new OC.
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makes sense .. all great teams had good to great olines so beef up the oline then see what the qb can do.
Wilson is long in the tooth his days are done. he got his ring with Carroll. now he's a retread overpaid bum.
you SteelHeads need a young buck at qb and first and foremost a oline that can protect him. while the "Steel Curtain" was dominate in the 70's there was also the oline where Franco (rip) and Rocky ran wild and Terry i recall in the 70's didn't spend too much time scrambling do to lack of pass protection.
the offense starts with the oline. just ask "the juice" and the "Electric Company"
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02-02-2024, 07:43 AM
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makes sense .. all great teams had good to great olines so beef up the oline then see what the qb can do.
Wilson is long in the tooth his days are done. he got his ring with Carroll. now he's a retread overpaid bum.
you SteelHeads need a young buck at qb and first and foremost a oline that can protect him. while the "Steel Curtain" was dominate in the 70's there was also the oline where Franco (rip) and Rocky ran wild and Terry i recall in the 70's didn't spend too much time scrambling do to lack of pass protection.
the offense starts with the oline. just ask "the juice" and the "Electric Company"
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Wilson actually had a good year despite Payton working against him. He would come at the league minimum. He’s better than Pickett and would serve as a bridge QB until they find their QB of the future. Fields could be had for lower round draft pick. Both are better options than what the Steelers currently have. Center has been a weak spot for years. The Steelers could have had Creed Humphries or Linderbaum. Both are studs. They desperately need a center. DL too.
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02-02-2024, 06:19 PM
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Yeah, no. The team around Pickett is 10x better than what Bradshaw had to endure his first couple years.
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And you back that up, how? Fact is that Bradshaw threw 400% more interceptions than touchdowns, and Pickett threw 50% more touchdowns than interceptions. That’s Steelers football. Ball control running and quick hits offense that keeps the game tight, tough defense and the ability to win close games.
This year the Steelers mostly won with Kenny, mostly lost with Mitch, and Mason helped close it out.
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02-02-2024, 06:32 PM
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And you back that up, how? Fact is that Bradshaw threw 400% more interceptions than touchdowns, and Pickett threw 50% more touchdowns than interceptions. That’s Steelers football. Ball control running and quick hits offense that keeps the game tight, tough defense and the ability to win close games.
This year the Steelers mostly won with Kenny, mostly lost with Mitch, and Mason helped close it out.
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In all due respect J, in the late 60’s college offenses were light years behind NFL offenses. And Bradshaw played at a small college which made things worse. He was also younger when he got to the NFL than Pickett. But Bradshaw was an elite athlete, Pickett is not. Pickett played in an NFL offense at Pitt his senior year with one of the best receivers in college, Addison. Pickett was 24yrs old. A man playing against boys. There’s no comparison. Pickett was supposed to be NFL ready. He wasn’t and may never be. As it stands today, he’s in the bottom 3rd of NFL QBs. You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Ih3ES81bsZ0
He went on to throw it 244ft.
I like Kenny and all, but no way he could pull this off. No way
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PklL1x...kgY29sZQ%3D%3D
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02-02-2024, 07:01 PM
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I really like Kenny Pickett the person so will continue to have faith. Wouldn’t be the first time a mediocre start turned into a hall of famer.
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02-02-2024, 07:08 PM
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I really like Kenny Pickett the person so will continue to have faith. Wouldn’t be the first time a mediocre start turned into a hall of famer.
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J, he doesn’t have the god given talent to be a good NFL QB, let alone a HOFer. That YouTube video I posted illustrates his weaknesses. He doesn’t step up in the pocket and wait until the last second to throw it. Let alone 60yrs in the air. Mason is better at doing that than Pickett. It’s obvious.
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02-03-2024, 02:28 PM
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I really like Kenny Pickett the person so will continue to have faith. Wouldn’t be the first time a mediocre start turned into a hall of famer.
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Well, liking someone as a person doesn't mean anything when it comes to success as a pro athlete. In fact, many times it's the opposite.
Like him all you want, nobody's saying you can't, but he'll never be a HOFer. In fact, I wager that he'll never even win a playoff game (if he ever even makes it to the playoffs). His slow, mediocre playing style will always get exposed by good defenses in Dec and Jan crunch time. Another issue is his durability. He's already been knocked out of 5 games so far in less than 2 seasons.
Anyway, the 2023 Steelers TEAM is light years ahead of the 1970 Steelers team, particularly on defense (which Kenny has to thank for 6 of his 7 wins as starter this year). The only game in 2023 that Kenny didn't need to be bailed out by the defense was against the Rams.
Mason didn't need the defense to win games for him. He's a competent, NFL-ready QB. Kenny's not.
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