Best beer commercial ever

[Salty Again]

... And the so-called "BOYCOTT" goes on!

Bud Light is poison... People simply select something else.

It's called "voting with your feet"....

... Why Berry keeps mentioning things is because the
so-called "experts" on this were rather certain this
whole thing would BE OVER by now.

And it's NOT.

#### Salty

[HDGristle]

You're too smart to pull the poison card when the majority are still buying it.

The brand was dented, not broken. They're still selling millions of dollars worth of beer every week even with an active boycott.

And the reality is that most of the money they lost out on went to even more woke competitors. That's funny as all fuck to me and a large reason I help keep this thread on page 1.

I actually do think it's over. They lost some customers they likely won't win back and can now turn to the pivot they already needed. They still have more than they lost. And Woke Coors. Woke Miller. Woke Modelo. They're soaking up a point of market share here and there and taking it to the Woke Bank as gladhanded former Bud Light drinkers are flocking to them.

The convo continues and I win, either way.

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Why Berry keeps mentioning things is because the
so-called "experts" on this were rather certain this
whole thing would BE OVER by now.

And it's NOT.

#### Salty

Solid point. The protest against Bud Light continues. As a brand their sales are down. InBev was trading for $53.54 a year ago today and as of this moment is valued at $58.86 which represents about 10% increase. With inflation factored in that number isn't nearly as positive but still equates to billions of dollars.

Constellation is up close to 11% over the past year and Coors 18% so a snapshot look would seem to indicate that disgruntled Bud Light drinkers mostly switched to brands with as much or more inclusive practices. This is even more pronounced looking at the last 6 months as Bud stock is up less than 1% while Constellation is up 20% and Coors 37% during that period.

So while those 'experts' who predicted a quick fizzle to the 'boycott' were specifically incorrect in general they were spot on since the biggest brands who support the queer community have done well in the aftermath.

I suppose the Bud Light haters can rejoice that Target took a hit right? All you have to do is ignore the fact that one major reason Target backed off their Pride participation was the staff and management fearing for their safety after numerous threats were made creating what many referred to as a 'concerns for employee well-being in the workplace'

Bud breweries and retailers experienced a similar reality after numerous threats were made so the 'backlash' created went well beyond peaceful protest. Any attempt to call the Bud Light boycott a win is laughable at best.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by DNinja69

It can be easy to box this up as a left v right debate. That doesn't really hold up when you look at it on a deeper level as human rights and equality among people is not something a Republican or Democrat gets to move the bar on because they may or may not like something 'the other side' is doing. When the issue is co-mingling in bathrooms or competing in the same sporting event it is very much a WE issue and often there is no workable solution that will satisfy any real majority of people involved. But the beer boycott isn't about those things is it?

When you strip away the sound bytes like 'go woke go broke' what is the real issue? Gay people. I understand why their existence offends some people though it does seem a bit silly they pick that issue to get so loud about considering all the truly dysfunctional sin based offenses people perpetrate upon others every day but I get it. What does not make much sense is this notion that they should do something about it. The Bible gives up plenty of insight into free will and last I checked proclaims us all sinners in the eyes of God. There are a great deal of teachings included on how we should treat others and witness to spread the word as well. So what is the goal in blasting Target, Budweiser, etc etc for supporting equal treatment regardless of sexuality? Are these otherwise rational people expecting some widespread revolution where being straight and conforming to the man+woman=correct model spreads through the world like a new flu strain? There is a difference from working to rebuke sin and trying to publicly shame and persecute others.

So we can rejoice that Bud is selling a few less beers and Target had to take some items off their shelves and then hope when it comes time to answer for our own misdeeds we will get a pass because our kinks and devious deeds weren't quite as bad as 'those people' maybe that is the win...

I think you’re way off the mark on this. Nobody cares about gay. It’s the outright lying to youngins and permanently fucking up their lives instead of getting them the actual care they need, which doesn’t include blockers, hormones and chopping healthy body parts off, that’s at issue.

[HDGristle]

I think you're way off the mark on this, J. Nothing you've laid out there has anything to do with the adult beverage nor the adult who got a commemorative can as part of HER journey.

You have to project your own issues into this to get there. And stretch.

[Jacuzzme]

It wasn’t meant to, it was just a retort to ninja’s assertion that gay people are the underlying issue. They’re not.

[Salty Again]

... Neither is the thought of "violence" against the
Target sales-staff as the reason they toned-down
their "pride" displays.

The simple FACT that people "vote with their feet"
is surely the TRUE reason. ... Target corporate leaders
were fraught with worry that they might surely become
the next "bud light"... and LOSE REVENUE.

#### Salty

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I think you’re way off the mark on this. Nobody cares about gay. It’s the outright lying to youngins and permanently fucking up their lives instead of getting them the actual care they need, which doesn’t include blockers, hormones and chopping healthy body parts off, that’s at issue.

Those who take PRIDE in the freedom to be themselves don't separate them out. So why should we? Not everyone who supports trans people also supports doing it to children.

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

It wasn’t meant to, it was just a retort to ninja’s assertion that gay people are the underlying issue. They’re not.

That is hilarious. The Republican party has been trying to outlaw being gay for decades. The SCOTUS decision in 2015 put an end to the debate but there are still states with laws on the books just in case it gets overturned. Any claim this isn't a gay shame issue is about as accurate as saying its a beer preference. Say the word pronoun in public and look around at the angry faces then tell me again what it isn't about.

I object to the idea of physical transitioning before age 21 if a young person feels they are a different gender they can do many things to embrace that without changing their bodies. 100 percent agree on that. But we have states trying to outlaw cross dressing in public. That is quite literally a violation of our civil rights. Demonizing someone for not agreeing with another person's religious beliefs is very much the same offense. When overly righteous right wing bible clutchers stop referring to every trans person as 'groomer' then maybe a conversation can be had about whether or not inciting violence against the queer community is a productive and Christian way to treat our fellow humans.

I think most everyone could agree that someone standing on our street yelling into a bullhorn at midnight needs to be stopped. I just don't believe running them over will a pickup truck is an appropriate response. But its just a beer boycott nothing personal right? Nobody actually hates rainbows

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... And the so-called "BOYCOTT" goes on!

Bud Light is poison... People simply select something else.

It's called "voting with your feet"....

... Why Berry keeps mentioning things is because the
so-called "experts" on this were rather certain this
whole thing would BE OVER by now.

And it's NOT.

#### Salty

Correct Salty.

One can go back in this thread and see the various leftists boasting and bragging this is nothing, it would be over quickly.

They of course were wrong yet again and not one of them was man enough to admit it.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I think you’re way off the mark on this. Nobody cares about gay. It’s the outright lying to youngins and permanently fucking up their lives instead of getting them the actual care they need, which doesn’t include blockers, hormones and chopping healthy body parts off, that’s at issue.

He is indeed. He is way off topic misinterpreting what the boycott is about. Has nothing to do with someone being gay. Has everything to do with the leftists pushing their deranged tranny agenda on everyday Americans. This was just one more example to add on to all the items you mentioned

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by berryberry

He is indeed. He is way off topic misinterpreting what the boycott is about. Has nothing to do with someone being gay. Has everything to do with the leftists pushing their deranged tranny agenda on everyday Americans. This was just one more example to add on to all the items you mentioned

I am about to pose a question in the political forum. Maybe you would like take a crack at it...

[berryberry]

‘NO FUTURE’: Former Anheuser-Busch Exec Slams Woke Bud Light, Says CEO Should’ve Been Laid Off

Anson Frericks, the former president of operations at Anheuser-Busch, slammed current CEO Brendan Whitworth during a Fox Business interview. Frericks argued that under Whitworth’s leadership, the company’s future is at risk.

Rather than laying off hundreds of rank-and-file employees, Frericks suggested that the company should have considered dismissing its CEO instead.

“They said they’re trying to set this business up for future long-term success, but there’s no future at this company with the current CEO in place,” Frericks stated. “The CEO is accountable for the results of the organization, and the results of the last four months have been terrible.”

The criticism comes after the controversial partnership with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney, which led to a significant crash in Bud Light’s sales. Following the sales decline, Anheuser-Busch InBev announced layoffs of hundreds of workers. Whitworth, however, defended the decision, stating that it was made with the company’s “future long-term success” in mind.

In March, the company sent out Bud Light packs featuring Mulvaney’s face to celebrate her one-year of “girlhood,” a move that sparked controversy among many people and distributors. Amidst the controversy, however, Whitworth waited until April to break the long silence to address the issue.

The company’s decision to feature Mulvaney’s face on Bud Light packaging raised significant questions about the company’s commitment to its traditional values. The response to the controversy was closely criticized by consumers and stakeholders.

Frericks contended that the layoffs should have started “at the top” of the company. He also criticized the company’s shift from fiscal priorities to political ones, which he began to notice after joining the company in 2011.

“Every single CEO, they have a fiduciary obligation to their shareholders, not to these stakeholders in the organization that are pushing different agendas, activist agendas, political agendas,” the former CEO explained. “If you’re the CEO of a company, you’re the one who’s accountable for the results at the end of the day.”

Back in May Frericks was quoted, “It [Bud Light] was about a brand that brought people together. It was about football. It was about sports. It was about music. It never got involved in political situations. That’s why it was enjoyed by both Republicans and Democrats equally.”

“And that was what made the brand actually remarkable. It was remarkably unpolitical. And this is just a political situation they should not have got themselves in. This is a beer company. They should be about selling beer.”

Frericks was shocked to see that Anheuser-Busch has not adequately addressed or rectified the slump in sales and warned of “more pain” to come. He also alluded to the upcoming shareholder call, where he expects tough questions about the company’s plan to turn things around.

He contrasted his time there explaining, “By the time I left the organization, we started releasing two annual reports: one was for shareholders, which talked about what the company was doing, its financials; but there was a second, 105-page ESG report that the company was releasing that was talking about DEI, talking about ESG, talking to these progressive things that frankly did not deliver to the bottom line.”

“It’s easy for consumers to switch because everywhere you have a Bud Light you have Miller Lite, Coors Light, etc.,” he said. The Bud Light boycott has been successful, according to Frericks. In large part because consumers have plenty of alternatives.

[HDGristle]

NY Post says distributors are saying what I already did about the losses being a sunk issue at this point
https://nypost.com/2023/07/31/bud-li...-disaster/amp/

Heineken CEO speaks on Bud Light not standing for its values
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/31/hein...ur-values.html

Interested to see the earnings call notes and data

[berryberry]

OOOOF

So much for those ill informed leftists who said this would all blow over quickly