Banned in the USA!

[chellachella]

LOL I think this is the dude equivalent of a cat fight.

Bottom line, banned or not, nothing will change. Dumb rules, waste of time and effort.

[causewaycommuter]

The fact of the matter is that Lisa obtained info from the ML and then took it upon herself to message at least one person about it. I can't say that I blame her because I probably would have done the same thing. It's unfortunate because nothing really bad (in my opinion) was said in the thread. People voiced differing opinions and experiences in the thread, and that happens all the time.

We can say what we want about the rules of the site, but they are the rules of the site. If you don't want to follow them, then you can either accept the consequences or leave the site. It's that simple. Hopping on your soapbox expressing your thoughts about the unfairness, idiocy, or uninformed/delusional theories about how they are enforced won't make a difference.

This isn't the first time someone has received a vacation for acting on information they weren't supposed to have and didn't offer up the source, and it won't be the last. All the rules are there for a reason, and the mods have the shitty job of enforcing them. I had to swing the hammer that was swung on Lisa a few times, and it sucks. But it has to be done.

[heidilynnla]

You can't say that there is no accountability in one sentence, then say that the Mods are "bullying" when they enforce the rules. I have first hand experience of this and I had no one to blame but myself. It is what it is! Take the licking and keep on kicking.

Lisa isn't a victim of ECCIE bullying or anything other than HER OWN EGO (although she always claims to be).
http://www.compasslanguagestudio.com...c-illeist.html

Her little "hobbyist boyfriend" should have a big bill to pay for this one, lol. It won't hurt her biz though. When there is a little controversy on this board, it always draws attention to the provider/agency in a positive way. Just ask Annie, lol. I have no doubt that she will reach her business goal of having 100 dicks in her ass this year. Reach for the stars, baby! You go girl.

Thanks, Lisa, for drawing attention to DR last week:
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=974240

Business is great!

[chellachella]

lol I refer to chella in 3rd person when I do stupid shit.

And I had no idea you had an agency, cool beans! Why she attacked you makes no sense.We should meet up sometime and talk. I have some utr guys looking for new.

[heidilynnla]

You are a pimp too, Chella! Sure, call me if you come to the city.

[chellachella]

Hell yes Im a pimp biotch!! lol, momma needs shoes ya know.

[Guest062114-5]

That link on illeism is superb! Thanks. I'd like to send it to a few of my co-workers.

I think this thread is actually a great discussion of the benefits and failures of PA. It brings up several good points.

The best one, I think, is that if you get private info you should have, then keep it to yourself. You can still use it, I suppose, knowing the risks, but don't be obvious. If you are, then expect a Bancation. And there you have it.

The Mynx has spoken...lol

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by gimme_that

If guys used their playing field like you just stated...where they never included their "no" reviews........and just posted their yes experiences......the board would serve no purposes.

The mere fact you don't write bad reviews if they happen.........takes a little gusto off the ladies you write them for.....and the ones you cosign. Since guys would determine you aren't objective and won't touch on service flaws at all.

And you comment about a girl not having reviews carrys no water. That just means no one thought to write one for her yet. Or no one cared to do one.

No reviews tend to be more useful than yes reviews. They show trends.

You speak as if the review system - in it's current incarnation - works. It doesn't and there have been many complaints from the guys addressing it. If I write a review on a girl - it means I found her worthy of spending my time doing so - because she rocked my world.

Just because I have a bad experience with a girl - doesn't mean you - or anyone else will. The problem I have - walking through the incall door - is I am 6'2" - 240 lbs and built like a gorilla. I know a lot of you guys worry about going to prison and getting ass-raped - but I really don't, cuz there ain't nobody in there big enough to survive it if they tried on me. Dude walks into the bar the other day and walks up to the manager - points at me and says ... "Is the shit so bad in here you need that monster on the door?" That's a direct quote.

And this can be a problem when I walk through an incall door - the girl sees me the first time and goes ... "Holy shit - who is this guy? He might get violent!" I have had some girls act so frightful and timid - the session sucked for me. What am I to do? Write her a bad review? Even if I caveat the review with what I just told you - most guys will still stay clear of her. The "NO" review is useless - she won't act that way for you - and a positive review wouldn't describe my experience.

Also - we have "woman-haters" on this board that go into a session just looking for things to nitpick them on - and they have dicks so small they feel the need to act big on the forum and exact retribution on a girl - who actually gave them good service but maybe one thing just went wrong in the session and it pissed his tiny ego off. How valid is HIS "no" review?

And, were I allowed to provide SPECIFIC examples of bullshit I saw in the ML (when I did have access) - I would be banned. So I can't do that here - but I have a good idea you know a few of which I speak. I will say there are more than a few guys who hide behind the thin veil of PA because they are cowards and don't want to state their opinions up front - where they can be challenged.

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by Arverni

You speak as if the review system - in it's current incarnation - works. It doesn't and there have been many complaints from the guys addressing it. If I write a review on a girl - it means I found her worthy of spending my time doing so - because she rocked my world.

Just because I have a bad experience with a girl - doesn't mean you - or anyone else will. The problem I have - walking through the incall door - is I am 6'2" - 240 lbs and built like a gorilla. I know a lot of you guys worry about going to prison and getting ass-raped - but I really don't, cuz there ain't nobody in there big enough to survive it if they tried on me. Dude walks into the bar the other day and walks up to the manager - points at me and says ... "Is the shit so bad in here you need that monster on the door?" That's a direct quote.

And this can be a problem when I walk through an incall door - the girl sees me the first time and goes ... "Holy shit - who is this guy? He might get violent!" I have had some girls act so frightful and timid - the session sucked for me. What am I to do? Write her a bad review? Even if I caveat the review with what I just told you - most guys will still stay clear of her. The "NO" review is useless - she won't act that way for you - and a positive review wouldn't describe my experience.

Also - we have "woman-haters" on this board that go into a session just looking for things to nitpick them on - and they have dicks so small they feel the need to act big on the forum and exact retribution on a girl - who actually gave them good service but maybe one thing just went wrong in the session and it pissed his tiny ego off. How valid is HIS "no" review?

And, were I allowed to provide SPECIFIC examples of bullshit I saw in the ML (when I did have access) - I would be banned. So I can't do that here - but I have a good idea you know a few of which I speak. I will say there are more than a few guys who hide behind the thin veil of PA because they are cowards and don't want to state their opinions up front - where they can be challenged.

You had me at built like a gorilla.

[Arverni]

The point I'm trying to make is that every guy is different - and human interaction, stereotypes, natural prejudices, body language, communication skills, hygiene ... etc, etc, etc all come into play in an escort session. So it's not the same as reviewing a blender.

And - let's just say that maybe a "no" review IS valid - well, since the board rules say the girls can't look at the ROS - and since you can't give them the ROS - then how can they get anything constructive out of that kind of a system for them make improvements?

They can't.

[LA Man]

Ok let's just all fuck and make up....better yet make up sex is the best, keep fighting

[disilene]

This thread has gotten so off topic.


But I agree, the review system is broken. Guys who have been ripped off for over a thousand dollars....won't tell anyone. They let the next guy walk right into the same setup. I guess they are afraid if they say something bad....no one else will see them. But the truth is....as long as your money is green....someone will see you.

[causewaycommuter]

Arverni, I couldn't disagree with you more regarding reviews with a "no" recommendation. Personally, I think they can be much more valuable than a positive review. Of course I understand that "it takes two to tango" and there could be a litany of reasons for the "no" recommendation. The exact same way there could be a litany of reasons or a "yes" recommendation.

The reviews are what they are...and that is the OP's account of the session. It is up to the other guys to interpret what they want from the review. The ROS comments are private primarily to give the OP the sense that what he writes won't be read by the provider (whether those comments are truly private is another discussion), thereby he will be more honest. Is the system perfect? Of course not. But it's the system we are working with on this site.

Now back to the original topic of the thread. Lisa got caught in a crappy situation and I feel bad for her in that regard. But she has been around long enough and seems to be a solid enough provider that this isn't going to be a blip on the radar for her in the big picture. And I'm sure the free press she is getting from all this is keeping her dance card full.

[SknyDiva]

Originally Posted by LilMynx69

You had me at built like a gorilla.

What she said!!! I'm just a sucker for big gorilla types.

[SknyDiva]

The pussyhounds bitching & whining are just missing
Out on the quality that Lisa Lyons is and always has been.
She is my friend. STFU. Capeesh
Have a nice day.