This is only for my conservitive brothers. Democrats should not even worry about this thread.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Only been to Arkansas once. I visited the Clinton commemorative library and massage parlor. You get a table shower right on the Oval Office desk. I really liked the dancing Monicas.

riiiiiight... once a week until your brother moved

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

I take it you seldom travel internationally.

I, or members of my family, have reviewed free health care in Great Britain, Canada, and Italy. We received almost free health care in France (they hospital collected from our group carrier, but nothing directly from us). So you're wrong. Our citizens receive free care elsewhere.

Likewise, the ACA changes nothing about our health care policies toward undocumented workers. They can't buy health insurance through the exchanges even if they pay full price (which is asinine). A weak attempt to deflect.

So the Republican answer is still, "Don't get sick" (and especially don't be born in Mexico)!

It must be difficult to understand. Enforce the laws of the United States and the problem takes care of itself. We have safety nets for the poor already in place, without the illegals breaking our laws, the rest of America could afford health care. Now if you are asking for a solution to solve the problem of Americans being able to afford health care, AND, for us to provide free health care for all Mexicans, then I agree, no repub, dem or anybody else has a clue how to do that.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

It must be difficult to understand. Enforce the laws of the United States and the problem takes care of itself. We have safety nets for the poor already in place, without the illegals breaking our laws, the rest of America could afford health care. Now if you are asking for a solution to solve the problem of Americans being able to afford health care, AND, for us to provide free health care for all Mexicans, then I agree, no repub, dem or anybody else has a clue how to do that.

it must be difficult to understand the AHCA IS A LAW ... you said it, enforce the LAWS everything else takes care of itself

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by CJ7

it must be difficult to understand the AHCA IS A LAW ... you said it, enforce the LAWS everything else takes care of itself

Of course it is the law, the same as our immigration laws. You make my point, can't expect one law to succeed when you have a prez that chooses to ignore other laws that directly sabotage his signature law. It's even worse and compounded, when you have citizens and illegals, ignoring both.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

My insurance for my employees costs around $900/Mo. There is no way to make anything approaching even half of that affordable for lower level hourly employees without substantial direct subsidies. And those are most of the un and under-insureds right there.

So you qualify then for the Small Business Tax Credit ... that's a nice pop off the top.

Oh, wait, you probably won't claim it to make sure you do your part of making it work!!!!

How admirable of you.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CJ7

quote ONE FACTUAL instance where Dems have driven down wages .. ONE !

Their stubborn opposition to increasing the minimum wage. Duh.

Originally Posted by LexusLover

So you qualify then for the Small Business Tax Credit ... that's a nice pop off the top.

Oh, wait, you probably won't claim it to make sure you do your part of making it work!!!!

How admirable of you.

Oh, you're just pissed because he's not using Obamacare as an excuse to throw his employees off his employer sponsored health care plan.

[Yssup Rider]

Are you on Medicare LL?

If you were trolling Austin before I was born as you claim than you've got to be one of the oldest fairies alive... Right up there with Tinker Bell and the Tooth Fairy.

If that's true, then how fucking dare you comment on anything regarding health care in America. You've been sucking on then.government teat for decades, by your own admission.

a hearty STFU IS IN ORDER.

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Are you on Medicare LL?

If you were trolling Austin before I was born as you claim than you've got to be one of the oldest fairies alive... Right up there with Tinker Bell and the Tooth Fairy.

If that's true, then how fucking dare you comment on anything regarding health care in America. You've been sucking on then.government teat for decades, by your own admission.

a hearty STFU IS IN ORDER.

LOL, enrolling in Medicare is completely voluntary. It's a choice to suck on the government teat.

[bojulay]

Obama Care has now been revised and all it says is
For all medical conditions the people will receive free water and space.

Ha Ha Ha Ha

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Doove

Their stubborn opposition to increasing the minimum wage. Duh.



Oh, you're just pissed because he's not using Obamacare as an excuse to throw his employees off his employer sponsored health care plan.

Their stubborn opposition to increasing the minimum wage. Duh


chit, I forgot. Every time the Republicans try and do the right thing for poor working stiff's , up jump the dems trying to block them

sorry, my bad

[chefnerd]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

LOL, enrolling in Medicare is completely voluntary. It's a choice to suck on the government teat.

Not exactly true. Medicare part A is required at age 65, since other insurance plans work with it, unless of course you want to get hit with a penalty for late enrollment. Medicare part B is voluntary only if you are still working and have private or group insurance, otherwise it is also mandatory. Parts C and D are voluntary.

http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/...l_working.html

http://medicarestartsat65.org/myths.html

[IIFFOFRDB]

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-savings/

Omommycare will cost millions of people their homes. Good news is the Bankers are happy...yea...

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

Not exactly true. Medicare part A is required at age 65, since other insurance plans work with it, unless of course you want to get hit with a penalty for late enrollment. Medicare part B is voluntary only if you are still working and have private or group insurance, otherwise it is also mandatory. Parts C and D are voluntary.

http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/...l_working.html

http://medicarestartsat65.org/myths.html

Not exactly true. Medicare part A is not required at 65, nor are they eligible (free) for anyone who has not held, or their spouse has not held a job for at least 10 years (40 quarters) in a Medicare-covered job. Most wealthy people, that never have to work are not auto enrolled, or required to enroll in Medicare. Basically, if you don't pay in, you don't get free shit, but, you may be eligible to pay for it, but not required to pay for it if you don't want it. Pretty sure the welfare lifers are in the same boat, but I wouldn't state that as a fact.

http://www.medicare.gov

[chefnerd]

True, but that is a VERY small percentage of people. The gist of your statement, as I interpreted it, was you claimed it to be voluntary for EVERYONE.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-savings/

Omommycare will cost millions of people their homes. Good news is the Bankers are happy...yea...

your link says nothing about AHCA costing people their homes ... they would lose their home if they had an expensive medical emergency. Health insurance helps reduce the risk, especially when the 76% mentioned in the article would receive a subsidy to offset to cost of a premium ... aint too sharp are ya?