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07-20-2013, 03:41 PM
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07-20-2013, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
It depends on which "Spanish speaking country" ..
(Trying to locate a country that speaks Spanish ... in fact a country that even speaks!)
If you mean a country in which the predominant language is Spanish ... like Spain .. then I would call them "Spanish" ... if like Mexico ... then I would call them Mexican ... if like Cuba, then Cuban .. etc.
A problem with all this obsession with "political correctness" is that it begs for people being placed in a "pigeon hole" and invariably one doesn't "fit" ... like ...
"African-American" ... typically people identify someone who is Black and a U.S. citizen as being "African-American" ... the "stereotype" being that a person with "black" skin color is from an ancestry coming from Africa ... which fortunately is a large continent encompassing a lot of different countries in which the predominant skin color is "black" ... There are "white" African-Americans ..
.. the same can be said for people with brown skin .. a lot are lumped into the label of "Mexican-American" .. even though they are not from Mexico and resent the association. Then in the "Latin American" there are a log of extremely fair-skinned blondes and redheads. Many fairer than many "Americans" (which is how most U.S. citizens refer to themselves) even though people who live in South, Central, and Northern America are also "Americans" just like those from the continent of African are called "African"!!!
Our obsession in this country with labeling and data collection by "race" or "ethnicity" ........
.......... creates the pigeon holes and the government labels them.
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Very true, and you only scratched the surface. If one wants to get a bit strange there are Caucasian Japanese, Black non-Africans, and may other combinations. But in essence they are all people.
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07-20-2013, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
It depends on which "Spanish speaking country" ..
(Trying to locate a country that speaks Spanish ... in fact a country that even speaks!)
If you mean a country in which the predominant language is Spanish ... like Spain .. then I would call them "Spanish" ... if like Mexico ... then I would call them Mexican ... if like Cuba, then Cuban .. etc.
A problem with all this obsession with "political correctness" is that it begs for people being placed in a "pigeon hole" and invariably one doesn't "fit" ... like ...
"African-American" ... typically people identify someone who is Black and a U.S. citizen as being "African-American" ... the "stereotype" being that a person with "black" skin color is from an ancestry coming from Africa ... which fortunately is a large continent encompassing a lot of different countries in which the predominant skin color is "black" ... There are "white" African-Americans ..
.. the same can be said for people with brown skin .. a lot are lumped into the label of "Mexican-American" .. even though they are not from Mexico and resent the association. Then in the "Latin American" there are a log of extremely fair-skinned blondes and redheads. Many fairer than many "Americans" (which is how most U.S. citizens refer to themselves) even though people who live in South, Central, and Northern America are also "Americans" just like those from the continent of African are called "African"!!!
Our obsession in this country with labeling and data collection by "race" or "ethnicity" ........
.......... creates the pigeon holes and the government labels them.
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Most pigeon hole themselves the trouble for a while is all the hyphenated Americans if you were born here you are a American. But some want to proclaim their heritage ...
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07-20-2013, 07:00 PM
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Most pigeon hole themselves ...
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When they are filling in the government forms ... I write mine in usually, since there is no box to check for "Caucasian" .. usually.
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07-20-2013, 08:31 PM
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Try white next time.
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07-20-2013, 09:17 PM
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and he thinks trayvon did not get justice
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07-20-2013, 11:46 PM
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DoMTR Rider-Which one is it? It's OK to use White Hispanic but not White Black? Should I follow NY Times & MSNBCs lead, and call GZ a White Hispanic. A term I have never used in my life or heard used. I got a terrific ideal next time lets not bring race into it. We could just call them Americans...
But that would not fit your Socialist/Marxist means to a end game plan.
Now go back to snowballing your boyfriend...Yssuh Rider...LOL
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You continue to spout STUPIDITY. You were the one who brought up BOTH terms. Now you shrink from the idiocy drooled from you own gaping maw, Simple Jack?
White-black? What the fuck are you talking about?
To address, LL. I agree that nationality ties one to their country. I am not hyphenated. I am an American.
This discussion (waste of time) was brought up by a fool, playing a redneck's race-baiting game; a redneck without the mental faculties to present a cogent statement.
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07-21-2013, 04:55 AM
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To address, LL. I agree that nationality ties one to their country. I am not hyphenated. I am an American.
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And so are the citizens of Mexico and Canada, as well as Panama and Peru. That's the point.
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07-21-2013, 04:59 AM
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Try white next time.
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I'm not "White"!
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07-21-2013, 11:09 AM
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i've haven't seen too many government forms that use a fabric color chart when determining nationality.
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07-21-2013, 11:11 AM
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i've haven't seen too many government forms that use a fabric color chart when determining nationality.
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You're correct. Nor I. But "white" is not a race, any more than "black" is a race. They are on fabric color charts .. along with brown, yellow, and red. Thank you for making my point.
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07-21-2013, 11:13 AM
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I suppose there should be another discussion about race versus nationality versus ethnicity...
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07-21-2013, 11:19 AM
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I suppose there should be another discussion about race versus nationality versus ethnicity...
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No. Just some education on the issue. Not to mention some educating in the White House regarding ... law and discrimination ...
This guy is suspected of killing at least 3 African-American females.
I don't know if he was "standing his ground" with a CHL carry weapon or not. But may be "The Boss" while chime in here shortly.
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07-21-2013, 11:37 AM
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give me a break, LL
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07-21-2013, 11:50 AM
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give me a break, LL
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Here's the suspect ..
Now go get angry on him. Where's the mob? Where's the President? Where's Holder? Where's Al?
Or is your outrage and theirs over the killing of a teenage "boy"?
Are you all racists or sexists?
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