Nationalize BP

[Sa_artman]

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Spoken like a true dumbass who misrepresents the past, in an attempt to get his support some BS thought today.

Learn to write Rudytard before you try and insult someone. Just saying, wait until the oil starts washing up on the shores and the fishing industry tanks. When someone's greed destroys the lively hood of thousands, there's no court that can administer enough justice. And the past...speaks for itself.

[atlcomedy]

This is sad...

Sometimes I read what some of you clowns write and wonder how you come up with enough coin to bed a decent woman.

[Sa_artman]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

This is sad...

Sometimes I read what some of you clowns write and wonder how you come up with enough coin to bed a decent woman.

I don't know what providers your seeing that take coins. Please share.

[Texas Contrarian]

Originally Posted by Doove

Wow, CaptainMidnight! With my loose interpretation of your last 2 posts, i've counted no less than 5 personal insults/condescending statements. In other words, can it with the complaints about snarkiness and condescension.

I'll do that if you'll can it with the snarkiness and condescension!

You're the one who started coming after me with snarky, condescending comments. Someone who does that shouldn't be surprised when he receives a dose of his own medicine. As anyone can see, you took what I said out of context and twisted it to fit your own narrative.

Originally Posted by Doove

People on your side didn’t flinch...

People on what side?

I'm a libertarian, not a Republican. I oppose fiscal irresponsibility and out-of-control spending, no matter which of our dysfunctional political parties is doing it. And I certainly didn't support the profligate spending of George W. Bush. As I noted in another thread, government spending in nominal dollars increased by almost 70% under his watch.

So please try not to paint with such a broad brush.

Originally Posted by Doove

So I liken your “anti Obama anti growth economic policy” rhetoric (or whatever it is you wanna call it) to the birthers in that the only difference is that you’re smart enough to find a more intelligent topic to use for your Obama hatred than the birthers. Which isn’t to say your hatred is any more intelligent than that of the birthers.

That's a completely fatuous statement.

In the first place, I don't "hate" Obama. I'm just alarmed by his irresponsible fiscal aganda. Our economy is at risk of being swamped by a tsunami of deficits and spending. The metastisization of the entitlement culture continues unabated, and America's middle class has been promised that they're not going to have to pay for any of it. I don't know anyone who believes those promises are sustainable. That's why there's so much discussion of a VAT. The only alternative is to run trillion-dollar deficits until we suffer a horrific bust -- and we will if we continue on our present path.

If you want to try to argue that pushing through spending increases on a scale necessitating huge tax increases on the middle class isn't an anti-growth agenda, have at it!

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by Woody of TX

It amazes me just how non-educated the general public is of the energy sector. Noticed I said Energy and not Petroleum or Oil Company?

Originally Posted by Chainsaw Anthropologist

Despite the contents of my signature line, there are times when "UN" is the proper prefix.....this is one of them!

You guys leave my buddy Wood-Row alone. He have forgottin more about the Nrgee bidness than most peoples non-know.

Originally Posted by Sa_artman

Or maybe it was a contingency of right wing nuts, led by Glenn Beck, who blew it up it up to frame Obama so they might have fodder to feed their zombie followers.

That's ABSURD! Glenn spends too much time attacking Obama's kids and other family members and selling Gold as an investment simply for the edification and financial well-being of his listeners! What a humanitarian!

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Spoken like a true dumbass who misrepresents the past, in an attempt to get his support some BS thought today.

Rudy, have you cleaned your mirror today?

Originally Posted by John Bull

They still have to answer in U.S. courts for a U.S. law violation so yes, the Constitution does apply. Further, they do business in the U.S. so again, our laws apply.

OF COURSE WE SHOULD! That is a brilliant idea and it has always worked well in the past. Like Pemex, the Exxon-Valdez that finally said "We're done" and then just quit paying for cleaning up with oil STILL fouling the water and washing ashore in Alaska. All those lost revenues and that whole destroyed expanse of land-based and undersea wildlife habitat was only partially paid. BTW, the documented fraction was less than a 1/2.

Then we have international law like the JAL "spyplane" shootdown by Russia, Laura Ling's kidnapping by Kim Jong Il, the torpedoing of the South Korean ship and on and on and on. Boy, those guys are really paying a hefty price, aren't they?

I'm with TexTushHog on having some form of CAPITAL punishment for these crooks and thieves.

Hats off to people with clear minds and compassion like Doove, OliviaHoward, CharlesTudor2005, avagadro11, discreetgent, Sa_artman and the others who lack at least some belief in the Bush Doctrine of Pre-emptive strikes on nations they label as threats.

Not a single hijacker came from that country and the largely secular leader (while despicable) kept most of the radical clerics under control so we didn't have thousands of festering sleeper cells free to stage in Iraq like the are free to do under Dubya's newly-created "Democracy" there. Why didn't he rid us of North Korea's moron or depose the dictator in Darfur if he was really after the most genocidal dudes? The Church Lady says "Could it be S-A-T-A er uh OIL?

By the way, for all of you who think Obama has people from the oil/energy and oil/energy services industry in powerful places, that's where Bush got most of his people starting with himself, his Vice-President from Halliburton right on down through his National Security Advisor, Condoleeza Rice - it'll take a while to finish THAT list even for Wood-Row.

If they simply FINED BP for killing protected animals *at the same rate* they fine U.S. citizens who poach them, kill them illegally, exceed the posted bag limits or take them out of season, the fines ALONE could fund the entire federal government for two full years or more!

Do you think Exxon-Mobil ever paid or was even assessed THOSE fines? If you do, you're dreaming.

I just think if the Supremes wanna make corporations into people, they should also make sure they're penalized, incarcerated, fined, detained, jailed and, in some cases, given lethal injections like people.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight

You're the one who started coming after me with snarky, condescending comments.

Guilty. But....

Someone who does that shouldn't be surprised when he receives a dose of his own medicine.

Be snarky. I don't care. I didn't complain about your being snarky. I complained about you complaining about my being snarky while being snarky yourself. Or something.

As anyone can see, you took what I said out of context and twisted it to fit your own narrative.

Actually, no i didn't. I simply made a snarky comment which you then made the mistake of taking literally....and here we are. Do you truly think that i think the anger of the birthers is motivated by Obama's fiscal policies? I mean, really! You elevate my opinion of them way beyond where it truly lies.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Little Stevie

I just think if the Supremes wanna make corporations into people, they should also make sure they're penalized, incarcerated, fined, detained, jailed and, in some cases, given lethal injections like people.

Motowns finest!

Little Stevie, that is a very good point. One I'm sure that is lost on some.

On the flip side....At the end of the day with all the drilling that has went on in this country and all its benifits, this is a small price to pay. The law of Unintended consequences is sometimes harsh.

[..]

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Only an idoit would go source someone from the health care industry to help administer oil & gas...

I disagree. Someone who can deal with Navier–Stokes eqns. re. the human cardiac cycle, can also deal with the fluid mechanics of an oil / mud pipe.

The laws of science are universal.

[Guest112113-3]

Originally Posted by Sa_artman

Screw that. If there was ever a time for a shoot first, ask questions later, nows the time. If GW can get the ok to put us in a prolonged war, I think Obama should have free reign to string up some BP execs no questions asked. Or of least leave them smack dab in the middle of a fishing port and let the locals have at 'em.

Apparently no level of IQ is required to post a comment here, but you do have your right to express your thoughts even you have no idea what you are talking about, pointing fingers before getting the facts, yes you fit right in to my previous post, the Un-Educated.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Doove

Guilty. But....

Be snarky. I don't care. I didn't complain about your being snarky. I complained about you complaining about my being snarky while being snarky yourself. Or something.

Actually, no i didn't. I simply made a snarky comment which you then made the mistake of taking literally....and here we are. Do you truly think that i think the anger of the birthers is motivated by Obama's fiscal policies? I mean, really! You elevate my opinion of them way beyond where it truly lies.

Captain, you know I love ya but you gotta give Doove his/her props on this one!



Everybody has been so serious around here lately! What up with dat?

[Rudyard K]

Originally Posted by Sa_artman

Learn to write Rudytard before you try and insult someone. Just saying, wait until the oil starts washing up on the shores and the fishing industry tanks. When someone's greed destroys the lively hood of thousands, there's no court that can administer enough justice. And the past...speaks for itself.

Allrighty then. To whom to you atrribute the greed?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Allrighty then. To whom to you atrribute the greed?

Good point RK.

Sa_artman we are all greedy bastards! You see how we cried when gas went to 4-5 dollars? Come on man , you can't have it both ways. WE are set up as a nation to run on oil....cheap oil, I might add. What do you suggest...even Obama knows that we need a transitional period to go to WTF ever they think we are going to.

After the Russian nuke disaster we built no nukes. What happens with spent fuel???????? There are no easy solutions my brother.

Should we all start riding bikes? To fucn hot down here in Houston for that! LOL

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Amen. And lets not forget who owns BP. Not some big evil Oil Baron or J.R. Ewing, but you and me (or many of us) as part of portfolios or retirement accounts (& believe me BP has taken a hit since the spill). For the most part it is a well run company that has made a ton of money for its shareholders (you and me).

At the risk of repeating myself...who do you think owns this? And, WTF, some of your your dumber than dirt friends/like-minded posters are probably too dumb to realize they actually own shares in BP.

[Note to Charles Tudor: this is not intended as an insult to you]

[WTF]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

At the risk of repeating myself.. ]

You are beyond the risk......you quoted yourself!

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

And, WTF, some of your your dumber than dirt friends/like-minded posters are probably too dumb to realize they actually own shares in BP.

You keep talking smack to me and I'll sell your ass to a gay bath house in San Fran. and you'll never get the chance to convince that chick that sex slavery is a thing of the past in this country!

[Sa_artman]

Originally Posted by Woody of TX

Apparently no level of IQ is required to post a comment here, but you do have your right to express your thoughts even you have no idea what you are talking about, pointing fingers before getting the facts, yes you fit right in to my previous post, the Un-Educated.

That's funny. I guarantee you my IQ is higher than yours. Who needs facts anyways when it's an opinion? That's what I stated.