Joe Paterno, and Other Penn State Leaders Covered Up for Sandusky

[Guest050715-1]

I am comfortable knowing that I am sufficiently outraged by child rape that I would report child rape to the police the instant I found out about it, and not cover it up thus allowing it to drag on for years. That's how I roll.

[WTF]

Everybody hopes they know how they will react when put in horrible situations, the most ignorant amongst us are just cock sure as to WTF they would do when put in the shoe's of others. Everybody knows how they would have reacted to the Nazi's had the been German in the 1930's. Funny how everyone knows exactly how they will react and the reality seems to always tell another story.



Talk is always cheap. Putting one's time and resources where all that talk is, is the true barometer to one's character. Not trolling for attaboy's on a hooker board. The lynch mob mentality is for mental midgets.

[cptjohnstone]

I have changed my mind on this when a friend point out "it is about institutional control". A big thing to the NCAA and this is lack of institutional control to the nth degree

SMU got the death penalty for paying players. My OSU got the 2nd worse penalty for paying Hart Lee Dykes. This is at least 10 to 100 times worse

The cover up is always the worse

[WTF]

Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

I have changed my mind on this when a friend point out "it is about institutional control". A big thing to the NCAA and this is lack of institutional control to the nth degree

SMU got the death penalty for paying players. My OSU got the 2nd worse penalty for paying Hart Lee Dykes. This is at least 10 to 100 times worse

The cover up is always the worse

Should we have disbanded the Army after the The Abu Ghraib Prison fiasco???????????????


Or just fix the people that were working outside the boundry of the law?



I do not understand the mentality of throwing out the baby with the bath water.

[CuteOldGuy]

You're losing control, WTF. JoePa and Penn State must be gods to you. Seek help. Soon! Your blind devotion is abnormal. Therapy, possibly medication - please seek help.

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You're losing control, WTF. JoePa and Penn State must be gods to you. Seek help. Soon! Your blind devotion is abnormal. Therapy, possibly medication - please seek help.

is his brain swelling? we are talking NCAA and lack of institutional control

[UB9IB6]

I agree some of the opinions here. I could give a shit about the sports programs.
I thought the purpose of college was to learn. I don't watch sports on tv and don't care who wins what. I do care that our public high schools have college sized stadiums and marble floors.... But lack proper pay for "qualified" teachers.

I believe this culture of ours puts emphasis on entertainment over education.
Look at the current crop of idiots coming out of our public schools and universities. Sad.

As for Sandusky ..... Balls off and 30 seconds alone with each victims father or mother. A good weekly raping would be a start. But do keep him alive for that shit. He deserves a loooong painful life.

Joe pa.... Dig him up and cut off his balls. He certainly didn't use them when he had the chance. Burn.... Piss on .... Rebury.

Anyone else who could have helped.... Good amount of prison time and
Make sure "Bubba" knows that they HELPED a pedophile.

Penn... Don't shut down program . Make them set up a fund for the victims and donate the next ten years of tv and endorsement revenues to the fund.
If they want a program.. Let them keep just enough to pay For the lights and lawn care and I'm sure the nutcase alums who love that dump would pony up for the program.

IMHO

[Whirlaway]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...0,637987.story

[Booth]

Originally Posted by WTF

Nobody cares what anybody else thinks should happen! Paterno's estate will not be sued. Some of you fuckers need to learn the difference between your own moral values and the actual law. Jesus. One last thing, people that really care about this kind of shit, they go out and actually do things to improve that part of life. Posting your feelings on a hooker board does not mean you give a shit about abused kids. I would argue that how much you have actually done is the only true measure of your actual concern in this field. Thus I csll bullshit on the phoney outrage.

Do you know WHY the Paterno estate will not be sued? Because the old scumbag liquidated it before he died. He sold his house to his wife for $1 and completely liquidated his assets. He knew what was coming and he knew he was guilty. If he were still alive he'd be indicted. Rot in hell, Joe Paterno.

[Guest050715-1]

Per the NYT, right after JoPa testified before the grand jury (about a year ago), he, and I quote, aggressively, perused a renegotiation of his contract – two years early. It was an all out of $5.5 million dollars if he retired early at the end of 2011. This do-over was finalized in November BEFORE he his magnanimous offer to resign to “save” the program. So much for childlike as they get older.

Upon his death, his estate demanded payment in full of JoPa’s contract. Penn State caved and gave them everything in the lucrative contract except access to the university jet and his former luxury box (His family had to choose another luxury box – boo hoo.) next to the university president. Ya, I’d be shocked if the estate isn’t sued. Predatory behavior begets predatory behavior.

Shutting the program down shows there are clear and dramatic punishment for anyone connected to the crime. We Are Penn State has to pay. The football program and the administration actively and for their own benefit turned a blind eye to child rape. There are penalties for that.

Yes, I know I’d report child rape. That you can’t see that continually blows my mind. The world must be a horrible place for you or anyone that thinks as callused or closed as you do. Besides, there’s a difference between what JoPa said he did which is reported it to his chain of command and what the FBI report said he did. The FBI said, and we all knew this anyway, that he Paterno actively covered it up.

Originally Posted by UB9IB6

Joe pa.... Dig him up and cut off his balls. He certainly didn't use them when he had the chance. Burn.... Piss on .... Rebury.

LOL, would that we could.

Originally Posted by UB9IB6

Penn... Don't shut down program . Make them set up a fund for the victims and donate the next ten years of tv and endorsement revenues to the fund.
If they want a program.. Let them keep just enough to pay For the lights and lawn care and I'm sure the nutcase alums who love that dump would pony up for the program.

IMHO

LOL, you have an active mind; I love it!

[pyramider]

It was not a FBI report. The investigation was instigated, and funded, by PSU. Its the PSU report. Apparently, they chose to have someone beyond reproach to investigate and compile the report. This we have to give them credit for ...

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by pyramider

It was not a FBI report. The investigation was instigated, and funded, by PSU. Its the PSU report. Apparently, they chose to have someone beyond reproach to investigate and compile the report. This we have to give them credit for ...

You are correct. The guy was the former director of the FBI.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by pyramider

It was not a FBI report. The investigation was instigated, and funded, by PSU. Its the PSU report. Apparently, they chose to have someone beyond reproach to investigate and compile the report. This we have to give them credit for ...

Boy but if anybody else gets their facts mixed up....chop off their balls!

btw..The report said that he (the former FBI director) wished he had been able to talk to Paterno and get his side. Let me repeat...to get his side. We will never know for sure his side.

Shutting down the football program is like asking a hooker to shut down her prostitution business because she has a kid that has gotten into trouble for say stealing or a spouse. Of course the hooker mom will still love her kid or husband , just not their actions....just as Alumni still love the University. But being a hooker has nothing to do with a child/spouse stealing. The football program has nothing to do with the criminial nature of these acts.Why punish a whole program for the acts of a few?


Everybody thinks they know wtf they would do. I bet Paterno thought he knew wtf to do. But if somebody came to me and said say my 81 year old father did some crazy shit...I would not go directly to the police. I doubt if people that have children can say they would turn their kid in if somebody came and said they had seen some crazy shit going on. People have a hard time wrapping their mind around the fact that people they know or love or think they know so well are capable of such acts. That is how things like this happen. Not by a bunch of old men sitting around trying to figure out how someone like Sandusky can molest again. That is the reality of life. All you other perfect souls can sit around and lament on wtf you would do. It is all talk. It is not a popular thing to try and dicsuss how things like this happen with a bunch of emotional grown ass men acting like they caught a case of PMS. So in closing, Fuck off with you judgemental crap.No damn wonder we can't talk politics in a adult ,manner...you act like a bunch of whiney ass girls that just got your first period!


All that said , Paterno preached doing the right thing. When this thing came up, clearly his actions were not in line with WTF he preached.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...0,637987.story

This goes along with wtf I have said about shutting down the program. It is throwing the baby out with the bath water. Penn St did their own invistigation after they found out there was a cover up. You hire a AD, Coach, President of a University and put you faith in them to do the right thing. Once they caught wind that they were not, they were let go. If you want to then get rid of members of the Board of Trustee's, that would sound logical to me.
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---The primary matter for the NCAA is application of its own definition of a “lack of institutional control.” If the NCAA can apply it to the alleged cover-up at Penn State, it could harshly penalize the football program and also hand down broad punishment across Penn State athletics.
Penn State's failure to act when presented opportunities to confront assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, from top administration to members of the footbal coaching staff including Joe Paterno, is critical to the NCAA review but bylaws don't contain specific language that would apply to this particular case.
In the school's favor is that former FBI director Louis Freeh said the university has fully cooperated with the Big Ten and NCAA, turning over pertinent details and all relevant findings from the eight-month long investigation concluded July 6.---

[pyramider]

The NCAA is grasping at straws with thincking about disciplining PSU. The NCAA is if nothing else image conscious.

Try not to confuse the death penalty at SMU with Sandusky and PSU. Not the same anything. SMU got caught repeatedly, and openly cheating. PSU's issue is the cover up of Sandusky. Not the same thing. It is very doubtful in the NCAA two foot thick book of guidelines contains any wording about covering up for a pedophile. "The lack of institutional control" the NCAA may attempt to use is a reach at best. But its anyone's guess what the brain trust of the NCAA will do.

The FBI will probably get involved, if its already not involved, investigating what, when, and who happened. With the FBI's subpoena power they should be able to unearth even more information than Freeh. Freeh has established the email trails implicating Paterno in the cover up and the prior investigations on Sandusky. JoePa knew back in 1997. But the FBI will trying to unravel what may be an even bigger conspiracy than PSU/Paterno. The FBI will want to see who else was involved and if Sandusky and his foundation were pimping troubled kids to pedophiles.

I really hope Sandusky was a lone pedophile and not part of a bigger problem. But I cannot help but thinck powerful people in PA and across the country are sweating profusely and are making contingency plans if the FBI comes knocking on the door.