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Old 01-15-2024, 02:26 PM   #46
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So you finally admit that the Capitol Police Officer wrongly and haphazardly unloaded their clip into Ashley Babbit

In the real world that is called murder.

Why do you want to allow this law breaking police officer to go free?
Honestly he is, and should be free!

And this was NEVER murder except in the eyes of ppl who support the attempt to overthrow the election results.

A cop or anyone who's charged with keeping the peace, can discharge a weapon with extreme prejudice to those threatening them with or endangering those around them.

The politics aside, it's not a left or right thing when you're looking at a mob breaking in.

Put it this way -if a mob was breaking into your house and you had a gun, would you be justified in shooting them?

Case closed
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Old 01-15-2024, 02:41 PM   #47
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Honestly he should be free. And this was NEVER murder except in the ppl who support the attempt to overthrow the election results.

A cop or anyone who's charges with keeping the peace can discharge a weapon with extreme prejudice to those threatening them.
Wrong yet again.

His own fellow officer has stated Byrd did not follow protocol, did NOT identify himself as a police officer, did not give Ashli any warnings or commands before murdering her. Byrd himself admitted he did not see a weapon or an immediate threat from Babbitt.

So he broke every rule and protocol in the book. Cops are just not allowed to shoot someone. There is a protocol they have to follow including:

Identifying himself as an officer
Giving a verbal warning
Seeing a weapon or immediate threat putting his life in imminent danger

On top of that, he then filed a false report saying there were shots being fired at him to try to cover up his illegal actions

He murdered Babbitt and politics aside, anyone with any common sense knows that
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Old 01-15-2024, 03:17 PM   #48
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Honestly he should be free. And this was NEVER murder except in the ppl who support the attempt to overthrow the election results.

A cop or anyone who's charges with keeping the peace can discharge a weapon with extreme prejudice to those threatening them.

The politics aside, it's not a left or right thing when you're looking at a mob breaking in.

Put it this way -if a mob was breaking into your house and you had a gun, would you be justified and shooting them?
come on eye.... threatening the cop? did you watch the video> did you happen to notice the three officers standing within 4 feet of the girl? did they look like they were threatened?
they were stranding there talking with the protesters lol
you guys keep saying cops were yelling stand down which is an out and out lie.... the video and audio prove that not to mention a cop would not tell a crowd to stand down. thats an order given to cops or military not civilians

i honestly cant understand how you guys stick to bullshit lies when the proof is right in front of you
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Old 01-15-2024, 03:43 PM   #49
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I am 100% in favor of police officers unloading their clip into civilians if the officer feels that their lives are under genuine threat. Having a crazy run at you armed, or unarmed, is cause to feel threatened, or otherwise not acting in a lawful manner. Those people were breaking through a barricaded door. What would they do afterwards? They wouldn't simply ignore the officer. Considering one officer died as a result of fire extinguisher to the head on J6th. The cops were in the right here.




Are you guys saying that you wouldn't shoot someone who was trying to break in to your private property? You own guns. You would shoot someone breaking into your home. Don't lie. You would feel threatened for your life, and would act in defense.


The officer here acted in both self defense as well as defense to the country. It is tragic that this woman's life was ended, but she has nobody to blame other than herself.
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Old 01-15-2024, 05:04 PM   #50
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I am 100% in favor of police officers unloading their clip into civilians if the officer feels that their lives are under genuine threat. Having a crazy run at you armed, or unarmed, is cause to feel threatened, or otherwise not acting in a lawful manner. Those people were breaking through a barricaded door. What would they do afterwards? They wouldn't simply ignore the officer. Considering one officer died as a result of fire extinguisher to the head on J6th. The cops were in the right here.




Are you guys saying that you wouldn't shoot someone who was trying to break in to your private property? You own guns. You would shoot someone breaking into your home. Don't lie. You would feel threatened for your life, and would act in defense.


The officer here acted in both self defense as well as defense to the country. It is tragic that this woman's life was ended, but she has nobody to blame other than herself.
Again you are lying or terribly uninformed. Noone was killed with a fire extinguisher. This has been proven wrong countless times
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Old 01-15-2024, 05:11 PM   #51
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Again you are lying or terribly uninformed. Noone was killed with a fire extinguisher. This has been proven wrong countless times
The only ones uninformed are the crazy ass maga crowd that keeps unsuccessfully trying to justify this bullshit. The treasonist traitor lying ass tRump, maga extremist congress assholes, and the lying ass faux and other radical far-right conspiracy theory extremist news organizations are the one that is responsible for what transpired January 6th. Without their lies and bullshit, none of the maga morons including Ashli would not have been at the Capitol that day. Place all blame squarely where it belongs.
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Again you are lying or terribly uninformed. Noone was killed with a fire extinguisher. This has been proven wrong countless times

Sorry, must be misremembering. But it is Brian Sicknick



https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/capitol-riot-deaths/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Sicknick

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According to CNN, some neurologists did not think that the strokes were natural. Stress and traumatic events can lead to a stroke. Based on media accounts, a forensic pathologist thought that Sicknick's manner of death could have been classified better as homicide, accident, or undetermined.
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Again you are lying or terribly uninformed. Noone was killed with a fire extinguisher. This has been proven wrong countless times

indeed it has yet at the opening the "big show", the Jan 6th inquiry that was televised that same now proven false claim was repeated, nearly two full years later.

no police died on Jan 6th. no police died as a result of Jan 6th.


the committee knew this and made the claim anyway.
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:03 PM   #54
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Believe it or not, when you hear shots fired, and adrenaline is running through your veins, it is very easy to mix up which side of the fight the gunfire is coming from. Happens with cops all the time when they are trigger happy.

But in the video (which you refuse to watch and comment on, interesting!) showed the officer with a fair bit of discipline and not taking his gun out until the last minute when he was ordering people to stop breaking through the barricade (which you claim never exists, interesting!)


Still waiting on you to answer my questions lol

except there were no shots fired until that cop shot Babbitt. in fact, THAT WAS THE ONLY SHOT FIRED that day.


the cop lied to cover his ass. you can't use deadly force even as a cop against an unarmed person. the cop was required by law to attempt to arrest Babbitt not just shot her.



the videos disprove any number of false statements made here, there was no "shots fired" threat, the officer was not being attacked and violated police training by shooting when there was no threat. what he should have done was left her climb thru THEN ARREST HER.
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Old 01-15-2024, 09:11 PM   #55
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The only ones uninformed are the crazy ass maga crowd that keeps unsuccessfully trying to justify this bullshit. The treasonist traitor lying ass tRump, maga extremist congress assholes, and the lying ass faux and other radical far-right conspiracy theory extremist news organizations are the one that is responsible for what transpired January 6th. Without their lies and bullshit, none of the maga morons including Ashli would not have been at the Capitol that day. Place all blame squarely where it belongs.

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Sorry, must be misremembering. But it is Brian Sicknick


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According to CNN, some neurologists did not think that the strokes were natural. Stress and traumatic events can lead to a stroke. Based on media accounts, a forensic pathologist thought that Sicknick's manner of death could have been classified better as homicide, accident, or undetermined.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/capitol-riot-deaths/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Sicknick


https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/healt...kes/index.html


CNN.


BAHHAHHAAAAAA


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On April 19, 2021, the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of the District of Columbia issued a press release about the death of Sicknick. It said that the manner of death was natural and the cause of death was "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis" (two strokes at the base of the brain stem caused by an artery clot).[34][32] The term "natural" was used to indicate a death caused by a disease alone; and if an injury contributed to the manner of death, it would not be considered natural.[34] It took more than 100 days to release these results from the January autopsy.[28] The full autopsy report was not released to the public.[34]
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i honestly cant understand how you guys stick to bullshit lies when the proof is right in front of you
I do Chizzy. Some believe the propaganda fed to them by the DNC news media. Others just ignore the truth on anything related to republicans or President Trump

Again - this coward who murdered Ashli Babbitt was hiding behind a door. His own fellow officer has stated Byrd did not follow protocol, did NOT identify himself as a police officer, did not give Ashli any warnings or commands before murdering her. Byrd himself admitted he did not see a weapon or an immediate threat from Babbitt.

So he broke every rule and protocol in the book. On top of that, he then filed a false report saying there were shots being fired at him to try to cover up his illegal actions

Those are the facts. No matter how much some want to pretend otherwise
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Sorry, must be misremembering. But it is Brian Sicknick
Wrong again. No police died on Jan 6th. No police died as a result of Jan 6th

Medical Examiner Finds USCP Officer Brian Sicknick Died of Natural Causes

But a police officer murdered Ashli Babbitt and then called in a false report to try to cover up his action. Please tell us why he called in the false report?
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^^^ Sorry, tommy.

I already shot you down on this point once before. Don't make me do it again, ok?
Yeah, and your only examples of it are from 2020 and 2021. Welcome to 2024. The sane Democrats have taken that trash out. You literally never hear that slogan in government these days.
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Yeah, and your only examples of it are from 2020 and 2021. Welcome to 2024. The sane Democrats have taken that trash out. You literally never hear that slogan in government these days.

so .. sane Democrats won't vote Biden now that they know what they were duped into voting for in 2020?



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Wrong again. No police died on Jan 6th. No police died as a result of Jan 6th

Medical Examiner Finds USCP Officer Brian Sicknick Died of Natural Causes

But a police officer murdered Ashli Babbitt and then called in a false report to try to cover up his action. Please tell us why he called in the false report?
Maga fools can continue to try to rewrite the narrative trying to protect the insurrectionist treasonist traitor tRump. Ashli was not murdered. She died because of her own stupidity. Ill-informed maga needs to blame the lying ass insurrectionist treasonist traitor tRump, lying ass faux and other radical right-wing extremist news organizations, and other lying jackass maga Republicans. Without their election lied, Ashli would not have died that day because she would not have been there.

Bottom line. This insurection was caused becaused:

insurrectionist treasonist traitor tRump knowing lost the election, lies about it and calls the stop the steal rally.

Insurrectionist treasonist traitor tRump tells the Ill-informed maga idiots that are too fucking stupid to listen to the facts and the court cases, to go to the Capitol and fight like hell or your not going to have a country.

Ashli, like thousands of other completely stupid and moronic fools break through police barriers and break into the capitol. Ashli then tries to crawl through a broken window when any sane person would see that the doors have been barricaded close. Unfortunately, she is shot and killed.

The insurrectionist treasonist traitor tRump is the cause of this and the other fucking lying-assed mentioned above. So if maga wants to continue to say Ashli was murdered, then blame the right person...tRump.
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