Free Bird

[Jacuzzme]

You say that like old Twitter was actually “safe and viable space for people to share ideas”. It wasn’t. Twitter was nothing more than a mouthpiece for the democrat party, which is why they’re all losing their shit because Musk intends, and in many was already has, to change that. Democrats can still put out whatever tripe they want, but now so can everyone else, which is how it should be.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

The amount of supportive contractors or full-time employees is relative to the areas that the company's prior leadership felt were important. Clearly- you don't think things like the following matter, so you would likely stop any oversight or have ppl with knowledge of the same on staff to ensure that nobody was selling snake-oil or taking advantage of others on a platform that YOU would be responsible for.

• climate change,
• Human rights,
• Communications,
• Machine learning ethics,
• public policy

For many in the world, climate change is not only important,it's critical and having knowledge of that interest and concern is how companies keep the discussion level and the alternative facts crew from stating factless and baseless claims, on either side, from being the focus, vs. the concern itself.

Human Rights issues, have been a focus of almost all governments and certainly the USA when it comes to how we deal with countries and governments in oppressive governments. BerryX2, you yourself have condemned Biden for asking countries like Venezuela, from being our source of immediate oil, and the Biden admin from approaching them because you don't believe in their politics, or the way they treat the people in that country. Essentially, if you as a conservative hate, socialism, and socialists in general, you are saying you don't like the situation regarding human rights, and all that entails. Sounds like Hypocrisy to me.

Communications- every company in America over 100 ppl, have someone at the helm of communications. Add to the fact that Twitter is a global company and deals with all the different dialects/ and languages and customs from each of those countries, and yes, you likely would need both leadership, and contractor support to understand that saying things like "ich bin ein Berliner". means I am a donut in german, vs. I'm like you. JFK found out the same way. Additionally, setting the tone and what things are ok, vs. not ok to say, per policy (which obviously can change with leadership) needs to be in place. Removing any policy leads to anarchy and people will leave. Hence the most recent report from platformer:
https://www.platformer.news/p/twitte...ses-are-piling

On Monday morning, a revenue analyst for Twitter in Europe shared some disheartening news. “We are seeing a significant decline in bookings,” the analyst posted in Slack, before sharing the numbers. Twitter’s ad revenue in Europe, the Middle East and Africa (EMEA) is down 15 percent year over year, he said, and weekly bookings are down 49 percent, according to screenshots shared with Platformer.

It was a grim update to an already dire set of forecasts. On October 31, in a Google Sheet created to track advertisers who had paused their campaigns amidst Elon Musk’s chaotic takeover of the company, analysts found that $15.7 million in EMEA revenue was already at risk. That included $12 million of anticipated losses in the United Kingdom, the company’s largest market in the region.

The losses come at a critical period for Twitter, which has been counting on the confluence of Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and the ongoing World Cup to drive increases in quarterly revenue. “It’s catastrophic,” one former Twitter executive told us.

Money makes Twitter run; selling little blue birds might, but people like free stuff, so when the free speech becomes pay to speak, I'm betting even more drops off; ahem.

Machine learning ethics- holy shit balls my man, if you weren't concerned about big brother knowing everything and anything about you, you are just living in another decade where the 50's must be still showing reruns of I love lucy. Machine learning is all about gathering data and selling it. Pursuing people with algorithms, and then exploiting it. If you think that elections are suspect now, how would you like it if the Machine learning identified all the people who were likely to change votes by the actions and posts they like or make, and then sold it to the side you didn't want to win? It's already happening. But ppl like you who keep their heads buried in GOP propaganda and I hate lefties, don't realize that there are bigger entitities in the pool. Anyone remember the name "Cambridge Analytics"? But yeah...to your point, why would that matter to twitter users? LOL

Public Policy- OMG. if you really don't know what that is, you shouldn't post on any public forum. The same policies that people get pointed from on Eccie, and what keeps the ideas of civility and how to deal with infractions and the ideas of operations of a media site are part of this.

Clearly- you're view is only from the end user's perspective and wanting so desperately to have users say anything they fucking want to with impunity, that you've got no idea of the term governance. The how, and why we (the company) does things.

They teach this stuff in college- must have been the days you took off, ( or never enrolled) but I digress. The point was why do they need these departments?

They control almost every portion of the rules of a media site and help keep it a safe and viable place for people to share ideas, and when sponsors know that people are safe, they are willing to support the site with advertising dollars. That's really not what is happening here. Hence the drop in advertising, and it will all catch up in valuations. But rather than delve into that; which you likely know just as much about as you did regarding the above, I'll leave it here.


Nobody is saying Elon can't run this company as he wants, I'm just saying, that the signs of poor execution and lack of governance are all over the place and while it may feel / seem like the great new place on the net where free speech, (alternative facts) can be openly spoken, and promoted, there is a stench to it to the the advertisers and they will ultimately determine the viability of the company being something more than 4ch.

Not to mention the fact that Elon has now picked a fight with the apple store due to not having the above items in place- seems everyone is concerned about public safety and making sure that there rules in place before greenlighting a shit show.

So that was a VERY long way of saying that you favor censorship over free speech.

Because Twitter does not need policy experts on

• climate change,
• Human rights,
• public policy

To run a platform that allows the free exchange of legal thoughts and ideas without censorship.

So just admit it, you are anti-free speech and you support and want censorship.

As to Communications - you do realize don't you that this was primarily a bloated internal communications staff. Don't need 100 woke libtards to communicate shit internally. Hell don't need more than 1 or 2 to communicate externally. Twitter is a vehicle for the exchange of information by its users. Twitter does not create said information and as such has no need for more than 1 or 2 external communication staff to issue press releases or respond to media inquiries

Finally, you bloviated a lot about machine learning ethics, but what you didn't do is explain exactly what Twitter (with their previous widely acknowledged far left bias) was using it for.

OH, and I see you completely ignored

Now you are really showing how out of your depth you are. But enlighten us, show us the stock performance since Elon purchased it. This ought to be good

Why is that?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

You say that like old Twitter was actually “safe and viable space for people to share ideas”. It wasn’t. Twitter was nothing more than a mouthpiece for the democrat party, which is why they’re all losing their shit because Musk intends, and in many was already has, to change that. Democrats can still put out whatever tripe they want, but now so can everyone else, which is how it should be.

Indeed. Eye just won't admit that.

This is why crazy ass libs are all losing their shit over Musk buying Twitter. He has restored balance and free speech over the previous far left biased site it was. Libtards enjoyed censorship of conservatives. Libtards are afraid of free speech

As to the advertisers he whines about, I wonder if he realizes that there has been a well coordinated and funded left wing intimidation campaign against all advertisers once Musk took over.

And that no, Elon did not pick a fight with Apple. It was Apple who picked the fight with him. And other tech companies are cheering Elon on because he has the will and ability to fight Apple's monopoly power

[berryberry]

Elon Musk:

The obvious reality, as long-time users know, is that Twitter has failed in trust & safety for a very long time and has interfered in elections.

Twitter 2.0 will be far more effective, transparent and even-handed.

[berryberry]

Under the Democrat censorship regime Twitter (like Facebook, Instagram, Youtube, etc.) was deciding exactly what people could and could not say and who could and could not have a public platform to say it. Dems are enraged that Twitter now allows freedom of speech and dissent.

[eyecu2]

[QUOTE=berryberry;1063031941]Elon Musk:

The obvious reality, as long-time users know, is that Twitter has failed in trust & safety for a very long time and has interfered in elections.

Twitter 2.0 will be far more effective, transparent and even-handed.


Is that like:
Burger King 2.0
Target 2.0
Bible 2.0
IRS 2.0
Trump 2.0

I guess if you have a fucked up original, you just put a two after it and then you can trash the original?

What a "master brander" that guy is (sarcasm).

I predict Twitter 0.0 if things keep trending the same way. Businesses that don't make money have a habit of going belly-up. Just ask another so called billionaire - 45 DJT. That dude knows how to run everything into the ground and then claim bankruptcy. Somehow it's going to feel like deja vu.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Is that like:
Burger King 2.0
Target 2.0
Bible 2.0
IRS 2.0
Trump 2.0

I guess if you have a fucked up original, you just put a two after it and then you can trash the original?

What a "master brander" that guy is (sarcasm).

I predict Twitter 0.0 if things keep trending the same way. Businesses that don't make money have a habit of going belly-up. Just ask another so called billionaire - 45 DJT. That dude knows how to run everything into the ground and then claim bankruptcy. Somehow it's going to feel like deja vu.

Thanks for confirming you know absolutely nothing about business.

Why again do you hate free speech so much?

Oh nevermind, I know. The Democrat party is now fully aligned against the 1st Amendment. Actively destroying free speech is now a core tenets of the political left.

It’s bizarre why these people stay in America since they clearly hate our laws and culture.

[eyecu2]

Lol ok BX2. When all else fails, call back to tropes of the right.

Libs Hate free speech
Libs Hate America
Libs are only reading MSM
Libs are socialists
Libs hate our culture.

Reality is you've been deflecting to these outdated ideas and never admit to poor business choices for your champions.

It's Not a ding on you personally but when ppl fuck up as many have, why not just say so?

[Jacuzzme]

All that is true, although I’d add the qualifier ‘in its current and past form’ to libs hate America.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

All that is true, although I’d add the qualifier ‘in its current and past form’ to libs hate America.

If liberals hate America so much, why are they trying to influence positive outcomes, or try to reach consensus with conservatives?

Or do you believe that conservatives are the only Patriots, and only their opinions count?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Lol ok BX2. When all else fails, call back to tropes of the right.

Libs Hate free speech
Libs Hate America
Libs are only reading MSM
Libs are socialists
Libs hate our culture.

Reality is you've been deflecting to these outdated ideas and never admit to poor business choices for your champions.

It's Not a ding on you personally but when ppl fuck up as many have, why not just say so?

Let's forget your utter lack of understanding about business.

I simply asked a question - why do you hate free speech so much to be against Elon Musk trying to restore it to Twitter and make the product he bought much better?

Simple question - why are you so afraid to answer it

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

If liberals hate America so much, why are they trying to influence positive outcomes, or try to reach consensus with conservatives?

Or do you believe that conservatives are the only Patriots, and only their opinions count?

what positive outcomes?

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Let's forget your utter lack of understanding about business.

I simply asked a question - why do you hate free speech so much to be against Elon Musk trying to restore it to Twitter and make the product he bought much better?

Simple question - why are you so afraid to answer it

Eye clearly doesn't believe that Musk is a legitimate actor when it comes to free speech and questions his intentions with Twitter and that's where the disconnect occurs.

It's not that eye hates free speech. And the habitual need to frame it that way is both silly and disingenuous. That's as true when Musk pulls it out against Apple as when you try to trivialize and misrepresent the points of others.

[berryberry]

Ho hum - just more big improvements at Twitter, proving once again that Elon knows what he is doing and old Eye doesn't understand business

Elon Musk today:
Major Twitter system improvements were implemented this week to drop hammer hard on spam/scam accounts.

Please screenshot examples that Twitter needs to fix

Imagine that - the CEO of Twitter asking his customers for input, what a concept

And then there is this also from today:

Elon Musk:

Twitter is now serving almost 90 billion tweet impressions per day!

Just how incredibly alive the system actually is will become obvious as we show view count on all tweets.

And look at this - TRANSPARENCY, which never existed before

Elon Musk also today:

Hate speech impressions (# of times tweet was viewed) continue to decline, despite significant user growth!

@TwitterSafety will publish data weekly.

There are about 500M tweets per day & billions of impressions, so hate speech impressions are <0.1% of what’s seen on Twitter!

[eyecu2]

Or the hate speech is lower, cause there are less users on the site; despite what you believe Elon's reporting to you. Is he gonna lie about that when there is really very little other oversight?

You betcha.

So lets see from your logic BX2.- "drops the hammer on spam and bots". -results: Loss of accounts- and tweets from same. Ok no problem, but that's not growth. Thats contraction.

-"Just how incredibly alive the system actually is will become obvious as we show view count on all tweets."

An alive system? Does that mean an increase in business and increase in tweets, or does it mean something more abstract, such as "we shut down spam, and now the tweets are real- (despite them being lower in volume than before) I think there needs to be some clarity

I don't mean to sound doubtful, but when you post stupid un-realized shit like you think is going to surface as real stuff-, you are selling the pie-in-the-sky mentality. Just another ruse off Elon- first amendment savior- mentality. You've drank the koolaid, lets see the results.

Could it go that way? - maybe, but maybe not.- by your own post, there is no conclusion of that.