Have you been fucked out of doing anything you wanted to do by this fake coronavirus hysteria

[brasil]

[QUOTE=Gdubya110;1062557107]

Originally Posted by Willie Wanker

Your point was the because research is funded by the Federal government, research is skewed to provide results as to what the government wants to see.

To support your point, you have provided an example of one effort a university takes in order to encourage proper conduct in performing grant funded research. Right, the employers of the researchers are telling them this is what they should not be doing.



Many of those articles deal with attempts by foreign entities, particularly China, attempting to obtain research information. A few deal with pharmaceutical or DME (oh, that’s what we call durable medical equipment in the industry) manufacturers rewarding practitioners for steering their products, which has nothing to do with research projects. Corrupt, yes. Involved with research, no. What I am not finding is a plethora of articles dealing with researchers skewing results in order to please government entities funding that research.

So here’s the thing. When the hospitals were full, and the clinicians were providing care for patients and illnesses they had no experience with, they wanted people to wear masks. They begged people to wear masks. They probably weren’t sure how effective it would be. Maybe only 5% against anything airborne. Maybe 0%. Maybe it only kept you from touching your nose and eyes, and really didn’t impact any airborne infection at all. But when you’re at capacity, 5% less counts. 1% less counts,

Most people didn’t have access to good masks, and apparently we no longer have the manufacturing capacity to produce the volume of quality masks that was necessary. But the cloth masks widely in use might have stopped a few cases. And it was not likely to do any harm. Maybe it felt a little uncomfortable, and maybe you could only wear it for a few hours at a time. But it wasn’t going to hurt you. Not like it hurt the clinicians when they were masking 12 hours a day, hoping theirs worked and they wouldn’t bring it home to their loved ones, Rubbing raw against their skin,

And the caregivers begged people to do it.

But some people can only think of themselves. They thought they knew better than everyone else, as though they had a medical or materials science degree. They couldn’t man up and wear the mask just to say “Hey, I recognize the caregivers and what they are going through, and I’m going to show my support for them, even if I don’t think this thing works, because they’re asking us to. I empathize with them enough that I will wear it.”

No. That was too much for some people. Too much of a price to pay. Their freedom was being infringed upon.

It’s all about them, and they are just so damn correct. I’m sure that you’re quite proud you’ve secured your rights an American.

And I hope that’s not what it means to be an American. I hope that being an American is partly about respecting your neighbor, and giving a hand when they’re getting their teeth kicked in.

You’re the guy that would have huddled in the back of the LST as it pulled up to Utah Beach. Let someone else do it. Let someone else take the sacrifice, That’s just stupid running out into a MG42 fire. The government is just trying to silence me. These Germans aren’t so bad..

Thank you for getting it right.

[Gdubya110]

Originally Posted by Willie Wanker

You must have missed that I wore a mask until after I got covid. So, I have the antibodies. Then got sticked twice with the vaccine, I'm still not sure why that's also necessary. I'm done wearing the mask and will avoid it as much as possible. Feel free to pontificate further. You're really starting to convince me. I think it was the American sacrifice at Utah Beach story that hit home. 😂

Then it’s settled. You had no idea what you were talking about when you tried to talk about research. I’m in complete agreement.

[lilylivered]

interesting ha ha

[Willie Wanker]

Originally Posted by Gdubya110

Then it’s settled. You had no idea what you were talking about when you tried to talk about research. I’m in complete agreement.

No.
http://www.cato.org/working-paper/go...unding-induced
Be sure to leave the detail on why you think that this link is also unacceptable. I'll keep sending them.

I'm curious, why the alias? All this time I've been missing our chats, and you've been here the entire time.

[Next Best Thing]

GOAT destroying the kind of weakling liberal pieces of shit who run around defending indefensible bullshit like mass mask wearing, this time pointing out their self-loathing as manifested in their collective reaction to census data.

I love not wearing a mask while unvaccinated. Mostly a spite thing at this point, but it makes me feel more free than I used to feel before the coronavirus farce took hold of the psyche of weak-minded democrat morons.

Thank you male lesbians and angry entitled bitches alike.

[Willie Wanker]

Originally Posted by brasil

It is not without reason that Willie Wanker has been on my Ignore list for the last year or two.

I'll try not to lose any sleep over it.

[Willie Wanker]

Originally Posted by Next Best Thing

I've been spending quite a bit of time in Portland ME and the surrounding area, shoot over to Portsmouth NH here and there.

Quite a few street scumbags and revolting black lives matter signage, but if you can get past this it's a relaxing area to waste some time.

How is the hobby scene there?
Still slow from covid?

[Next Best Thing]

Originally Posted by Willie Wanker

I'll try not to lose any sleep over it.

One of the male lesbians said the same thing to me, must have been several months ago.

Reminded me of the internet version of something an entitled nagging ex girlfriend would say.

Pitiful!

[Next Best Thing]

Originally Posted by Willie Wanker

How is the hobby scene there?
Still slow from covid?

Not sure Willie, went up with a regular female and my daughter.

It's pretty left-wing up there so assuming probably unwashed potty-mouthed whores with hairy armpits and shit breath?

[Willie Wanker]

Originally Posted by Next Best Thing

Not sure Willie, went up with a regular female and my daughter.

It's pretty left-wing up there so assuming probably unwashed potty-mouthed whores with hairy armpits and shit breath?

Sounds like you had a good time.

[Willie Wanker]

Originally Posted by 12InchClock

All masks are not effective at covid prevention i agree. Alot of masks people wear are useless. But the better quality ones are effective. Do your research.

The CDC has a cute tutorial on how to make a mask from an old t-shirt. Nice! Great idea to recycle those old faded concert tees.
My Foghat mask is my favorite. It pays to do your research.

[Gdubya110]

Originally Posted by Willie Wanker

No.
http://www.cato.org/working-paper/go...unding-induced
Be sure to leave the detail on why you think that this link is also unacceptable. I'll keep sending them.

I'm curious, why the alias? All this time I've been missing our chats, and you've been here the entire time.

Do you even review what you send? Let me give you the conclusion of the white paper you linked to:

“ Conclusions
The notion of cascading systemic bias, induced by government funding, does not appear to have been much studied. This is a big gap in the research on science and public policy. Moreover, if this sort of bias is indeed widespread then there is a serious need for new policies to prevent it, both at the Federal level and within the scientific community itself.”

The conclusion of this white paper provides no evidence that bias may exist, only speculation. In fact, this document was written for a libertarian think tank; the author would have been motivated to provide a conclusion that his benefactors favored. He couldn’t find any evidence, so he just didn’t say no. It’s more likely this document suffers from the very same bias that it speculates can be found in federally funded research.

This is the second time you’ve provided content that did not support your argument. You are showing a pattern of not being able to understand the information that you offer as proof. You claim you are able to retrieve information from disparate sources and come to a fact-based conclusion, but have not shown the ability to even comprehend a single source correctly,

You’ve proved on this thread that you are the ignorant and the self-righteous. Providing material as justification for your beliefs, when you either do not or cannot read it, as it does nothing to support those beliefs.

The only thing you’ll get from me going forward is pity.

[Guest072323]

[QUOTE=Gdubya110;1062557107]

Originally Posted by Willie Wanker

Your point was the because research is funded by the Federal government, research is skewed to provide results as to what the government wants to see.

To support your point, you have provided an example of one effort a university takes in order to encourage proper conduct in performing grant funded research. Right, the employers of the researchers are telling them this is what they should not be doing.



Many of those articles deal with attempts by foreign entities, particularly China, attempting to obtain research information. A few deal with pharmaceutical or DME (oh, that’s what we call durable medical equipment in the industry) manufacturers rewarding practitioners for steering their products, which has nothing to do with research projects. Corrupt, yes. Involved with research, no. What I am not finding is a plethora of articles dealing with researchers skewing results in order to please government entities funding that research.

So here’s the thing. When the hospitals were full, and the clinicians were providing care for patients and illnesses they had no experience with, they wanted people to wear masks. They begged people to wear masks. They probably weren’t sure how effective it would be. Maybe only 5% against anything airborne. Maybe 0%. Maybe it only kept you from touching your nose and eyes, and really didn’t impact any airborne infection at all. But when you’re at capacity, 5% less counts. 1% less counts,

Most people didn’t have access to good masks, and apparently we no longer have the manufacturing capacity to produce the volume of quality masks that was necessary. But the cloth masks widely in use might have stopped a few cases. And it was not likely to do any harm. Maybe it felt a little uncomfortable, and maybe you could only wear it for a few hours at a time. But it wasn’t going to hurt you. Not like it hurt the clinicians when they were masking 12 hours a day, hoping theirs worked and they wouldn’t bring it home to their loved ones, Rubbing raw against their skin,

And the caregivers begged people to do it.

But some people can only think of themselves. They thought they knew better than everyone else, as though they had a medical or materials science degree. They couldn’t man up and wear the mask just to say “Hey, I recognize the caregivers and what they are going through, and I’m going to show my support for them, even if I don’t think this thing works, because they’re asking us to. I empathize with them enough that I will wear it.”

No. That was too much for some people. Too much of a price to pay. Their freedom was being infringed upon.

It’s all about them, and they are just so damn correct. I’m sure that you’re quite proud you’ve secured your rights an American.

And I hope that’s not what it means to be an American. I hope that being an American is partly about respecting your neighbor, and giving a hand when they’re getting their teeth kicked in.

You’re the guy that would have huddled in the back of the LST as it pulled up to Utah Beach. Let someone else do it. Let someone else take the sacrifice, That’s just stupid running out into a MG42 fire. The government is just trying to silence me. These Germans aren’t so bad..

[QUOTE=brasil;1062557139]

Originally Posted by Gdubya110

Thank you for getting it right.

Actually..... WW got it right,
In fact, if it's possible.... dubs didn't just get it wrong.... he got it EXACTLY wrong.....

[Gdubya110]

Originally Posted by Next Best Thing

GOAT destroying the kind of weakling liberal pieces of shit who run around defending indefensible bullshit like mass mask wearing, this time pointing out their self-loathing as manifested in their collective reaction to census data.

I love not wearing a mask while unvaccinated. Mostly a spite thing at this point, but it makes me feel more free than I used to feel before the coronavirus farce took hold of the psyche of weak-minded democrat morons.

Thank you male lesbians and angry entitled bitches alike.

When you walk into a place of business that has signs requesting that anyone unvaccinated should be be masked, you are ignoring that entities request. You are entering private property and willfully ignoring the conditions the owner has specified as a basis for entry. Are you proud enough of your transgression that you will go to the representatives of that entity that your are coming in, unvaccinated and unmasked? Of course not, you are a coward hiding behind the faith that others have put in you to have integrity.

I bet you think your a good little objectivist, don’t you? The next John Galt, fighting immoral practices imposed unjustly by the collective of weak men. In the process, however, you’ve sacrificed the most important of your objectivist identity: integrity.

If you had integrity, you would honor the request of private entities not to proceed onto their premises without being vaccinated or wearing a mask by simply not going onto them. If this business has a policy you do not like and will not adhere to, you should exclude yourself from doing business with them. This is how you should resist the policies you see as unfair. You don’t have to go in, this is a choice you are making.

Instead, you whine in a pusillanimous manner and hide in the obscurity of the masses. “Liberal male lesbian pieces of shit!”. At least they are respecting the guidelines put forth by the entities they are choosing to do business with. You, instead, ignore those conditions and proceed to engage in business with these entities when they have expressed they do not wish to do business with you under your conditions. You should just not go into these places and engage in business if you think their policies are unfair. Or you could try to renegotiate the terms of doing business before proceeding.

You do no honor to fellow conservatives by acting in this manner and then bragging about it in anonymity.

[Gdubya110]

[QUOTE=Paulie Rockstar;1062557649][QUOTE=Gdubya110;1062557107]

Originally Posted by brasil

Actually..... WW got it right,
In fact, if it's possible.... dubs didn't just get it wrong.... he got it EXACTLY wrong.....

Paulie,

If I am wrong, please identify the article you found on the provided web page that discusses, specifically, an instance of federally funded research that was skewed by the researcher in order to satisfy the funding entity.

Or, at the very least, provide some justification for why you think I am incorrect. You need to put some substance behind your claim.

Thanks!