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07-20-2021, 11:34 AM
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Here we go with the barn yard twitter accounts. Oh I would believe those over main stream media. I guess you are scared of an 80 year old.
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You look more foolish with each and every post
Yep - actual real NEWS CLIPS from CNN and other networks are in your demented way of thinking "barn yard twitter accounts"
Yep - actual real video clips from senile Bidens own presidential campaign site are "barn yard twitter accounts"
Grow the hell up and get educated for a change
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07-20-2021, 11:38 AM
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Fox News host Tucker Carlson has said that there may be "profound benefits" to the COVID-19 vaccine. Those benefits include lowering the severity of symptoms and hospitalizations related to the virus, Carlson said.The Media Matters study looked at Fox News segments from June 28 through July 11. It tallied each time any speaker either said that vaccines were unnecessary or dangerous. It also tallied whenever a speaker said that immunization efforts represented a coercive form of government overreach or violated personal freedoms.
Carlson's comments came after a July 16 study from the media watchdog group Media Matters which found that 60 percent of Fox News' vaccination segments over a recent two-week period pushed "anti-vaccine propaganda."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pr...lW4?li=BBnbfcL
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/18/99809...suit-dismissed
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07-20-2021, 12:32 PM
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Just as I said - liberals are afraid of Ron DeSantis, hence all the BS lies like the one above posted. DeSantis was one of the leaders in protecting the most vulnerable population in Florida with the vaccine. But it doesn't stop the left from spreading the lies like above
And look - he can't stop with DeSantis - he spreads bullshit lies about President Trump - who has talked multiple times about all the good Operation Warp Speed has done and told people they should get the vaccine.
But here is what the crazy liberals miss. This is still America. People still have the freedom to make their own choices. Thankfully, the government can't force you to inject some experimental vaccine into your body. And I say that as someone who is vaccinated and believes in the vaccine. But I also understand and respect an individuals right and freedom to make their own choice whether to get the vaccine or not unlike many on the left
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Which part of what I said was a Lie?
I stated my opinion and yes Florida now has 20% of the Covid cases. It's a sad example of protecting his population it's a sad example of being a leader. AND he kisses Trump's ass. Neither of those are lies. Nor is the link I also sent to demonstrate the inconsistent messaging from FoX metal about the vaccine. 'Yaay for the vaccine Trump made, but you choose to take it since it's experimental and has serious side effects.' It's like dating a highschool girl who loves you and hates you in the same breath. Even the Dr of FoX is saying the delta is just the same as the regular despite it's being WAY more transmittable. To his credit he is pro-vaccine and says to get it, while Tucker thinks you just asked him his PIN number when you ask him. Despite the now known fact that all FoX employees are required to have the vaccine. How two faced can a network be?
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07-20-2021, 12:40 PM
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Which part of what I said was a Lie?
I stated my opinion and yes Florida now has 20% of the Covid cases. It's a sad example of protecting his population it's a sad example of being a leader. AND he kisses Trump's ass. Neither of those are lies. Nor is the link I also sent to demonstrate the inconsistent messaging from FoX metal about the vaccine. 'Yaay for the vaccine Trump made, but you choose to take it since it's experimental and has serious side effects.' It's like dating a highschool girl who loves you and hates you in the same breath. Even the Dr of FoX is saying the delta is just the same as the regular despite it's being WAY more transmittable. To his credit he is pro-vaccine and says to get it, while Tucker thinks you just asked him his PIN number when you ask him. Despite the now known fact that all FoX employees are required to have the vaccine. How two faced can a network be?
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What part was a lie - the vast majority of it. But let's just focus on this for now:
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He knows which ppl support him and will always vote for income & money from tourism in FL vs protecting a vulnerable population. I don't like him cause he kisses Trump's ass. I think all the "conservatives" who like that really just don't give two shits about vulnerable population.
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So please explain in detail how DeSantis has not protected a vulnerable population. Please provide actual facts and ideally links to support it - not bullshit you and Bypass just make up because you are scared of him running in 2024
As to your rants about Fox - I have no idea what they say or don't say. But the fact is getting the vaccine is a PERSONAL choice for each American. Each person decides for themselves
But since you and Bypass like to rant about Covid - what about these folks:
3 Texas Democrats who fled state to DC infected with Covid
Oh wait - even more Texas Democrats who fled state to DC now infected with Covid
Oh wait, now:
Oh wait - there is more. Cackling Kamala who met with the Texas insurrectionists had to take a secret trip to Walter Reed Hospital on Sunday. Odds she has Covid?
Oh and look - Psaki clarifies to @edokeefe there have been other breakthrough COVID-19 cases in the White House that have not been publicly disclosed.
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07-20-2021, 03:14 PM
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[QUOTE=berryberry;1062532126]What part was a lie - the vast majority of it. But let's just focus on this for now:
AS you didn't point out any substantive line- just " all of it", which is bullshit,
So please explain in detail how DeSantis has not protected a vulnerable population. Please provide actual facts and ideally links to support it - not bullshit you and Bypass just make up because you are scared of him running in 2024
I hope he does run- he may win some of the south including the red-neck riviera, but he'll be eaten alive in the north and west. Nobody believes him but you guys here in the sandbox.
As to your rants about Fox - I have no idea what they say or don't say. But the fact is getting the vaccine is a PERSONAL choice for each American. Each person decides for themselves- except Fox employees are required to take it. No choice for them unless they want to not work. So why does a network who says do what we say, not what we do, have any credibility in the rest of non brain-washed america. Answer- they don't. Here's a few links relating to FOX and it's bi-mouthed approach to vaccines.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/11/b...ews-hosts.html
or this one that acknowledges Hand-Job Hannity but points out its a drop in the bucket:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...s-ocean-doubt/
Or this fun article relating to Rupert (if I'm lying, it's cause I'm paid to) Murdoch
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/11/b...ews-hosts.html
Here are several links that support EXACTLY what I said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...covid-19-cases
https://www.wesh.com/article/desanti...tion/36149714#
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/po...2iu-story.html
Or this gem where ASSHOLE DeSantis not only adds to the misinformation on Covid, but literally creates a website to undermine any public confidence. IS that what governors are supposed to do? Are they supposed to give a two faced opinion so that the residents of Florida will distrust and question the vaccines, that DeSantis himself has taken? What a fucking asshole.
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...ndise/2494318/
But since you and Bypass like to rant about Covid - what about these folks:
3 Texas Democrats who fled state to DC infected with Covid
I'm certain they didn't realize that they had it, when they got on the plane, but yeah...dumb move- and to add the case of beer on the plane was stupid- especially if you are taking pictures. It's like taking pictures of yourself with known bad actors or hookers.
Oh wait - even more Texas Democrats who fled state to DC now infected with Covid
In General, you are veering off target and adding additional ancillary comments, vs ones that would support or suggest that I was lying, which again I've shown I didn't. Is it the baffle-em with bullshit vs. rational logic? - those last two are just garbage obfuscation off the topic.
So what was it you were saying about my lies, and not backing up my point of view? Besides the common use of the words "libtard, or liar, lies etc., Voter Fraud, or your beating the dead horse of poor Trumps loss, there is nothing more to see here.
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07-20-2021, 03:28 PM
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07-20-2021, 04:25 PM
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the corrected version was also in the post bam put out there
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07-20-2021, 04:49 PM
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So lets see if anyone can make sense of that abomination of a post of yours. Let's look at your bullshit links
Link 1 - So here is what DeSantis actually said - all 100% accurate and on point:
On Monday, DeSantis blamed public health experts for spreading what he called “misinformation” and offering “bad advice” with regard to the pandemic. He also suggested that the same experts were undermining their own vaccine initiatives by talking down to people who have yet to get one of the three approved COVID-19 vaccines.
“I do not agree with some of these people, some of these quote unquote experts who lambast people and criticize them or say they’re stupid or something,” DeSantis said. “That’s not the way to reach folks, OK?”
DeSantis also touted the efficacy of the available COVID-19 vaccines, saying that they have proved effective at preventing severe illness and hospitalization.
"Understand, a positive test is not a clinical diagnosis of illness and so if you're vaccinated and you test positive but you don't get sick, well the name of the game is to keep people out of the hospital,” he said.
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“It’s a seasonal virus and this is the seasonal pattern it follows in the Sun Belt states,” DeSantis told reporters at a press conference. He also said that he expects COVID-19 cases to decline next month
So link 1 is a fail on your part
Link 2 - Again here is what DeSantis actually said - all 100% accurate and on point:
He said Friday that people who have been given the COVID-19 vaccine shot should not have to wear face masks.
"I also think it's a problem that people, where, you're telling people to get a vaccine and yet people who have been vaccinated for months are wearing two masks," DeSantis said during a news conference in Lakeland.
He repeated several times that people who have had full vaccinations, should not worry about wearing masks anymore.
"If the vaccine is effective, why would you be wearing two masks? Like some of these folks are doing. It doesn't make sense," the governor said.
So link 2 is a fail on your part unless you are a moron who believes vaccinated people still need to wear two masks everywhere
Link 3 - behind a paywall - but the headline is some brain dead Democrat - Deborah Wasserman Schultz blames DeSantis for covid - shocker. Are you fucking kidding me? This is your evidence.
So link 3 - another fail
Link 4 - So this shows DeSantis is selling "Don't Fauci my Florida," products - that show a clear disdain for that fraud Dr. Fauci. First more than half of Americans feel the same way and that Fauci is a fraud. Second - how does selling a product have anything to do with DeSantis not protecting a vulnerable population
Verdict - link 4 another fail
So you failed on all 4 accounts. But hey, if you want to you know, look at actual evidence instead of the bullshit links you posted - start here:
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vie...2-5e7c004246c9
In there you will see that Florida, under Ron DeSantis has vaccinated over 90% of its population over age 65. You know - the vulnerable population you claim he did not protect.
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But since you and Bypass like to rant about Covid - what about these folks:
3 Texas Democrats who fled state to DC infected with Covid
I'm certain they didn't realize that they had it, when they got on the plane, but yeah...dumb move- and to add the case of beer on the plane was stupid- especially if you are taking pictures. . . .
In General, you are veering off target and adding additional ancillary comments, vs ones that would support or suggest that I was lying, which again I've shown I didn't. Is it the baffle-em with bullshit vs. rational logic? - those last two are just garbage obfuscation off the topic.
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Nope not veering off target at all. Pointing out your hypocrisy when you have the Democrat Texas fleabaggers fleeing the state to avoid a vote and spreading Covid all over DC. Talk about putting people at risk - it is these people right here
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07-22-2021, 12:09 PM
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Rand Paul is a total disgrace, no wonder his neighbor beat the shit out of him. All he showed is how big an asshole he is. And you brag about him. Another piece of shit GOP hero. Just like Jim Jordan. I am sure another hero. No help to society at all. All flies in the ointment.
Fauci is trying everything he can and only getting half of the supporters he needs. I just hope there isn't anymore poor kids dying innocently over politics. Lets face it, the guy that was running the country did nothing till October to do anything to stop the virus. It was all a hoax. Look where we are in an year and a half. A lot of things still closed up and a lot about to close back up.
There are 600,000 dead from the virus and the republican's fight tooth and nail on how they can stop people from trying to fix the situation. I see no help from them to help get rid of the virus.
They did the same thing with Obama care, fight tooth and nail on anything that will help the people carry on and trying to live a normal life. Oh that's right, its going to be ready in two weeks, that two weeks went on for four years. Maybe Casper the friendly ghost ended up getting the super health care, no one else did.
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07-22-2021, 12:33 PM
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“Poor kids dying”
Christ man, more kids (way more) drown in swimming pools. Should we ban swimming? Require life vests at all times? Of course not, it’d be as idiotic as making kids wear masks. Life is full of little dangers, like the common cold that actually does kill kids and driving, so we make common sense risk assessments and carry on. Unfortunately, when it comes to covid, we don’t even bother assessing the risk and throw the concept of common sense out the window.
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07-22-2021, 01:01 PM
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“Poor kids dying”
Christ man, more kids (way more) drown in swimming pools. Should we ban swimming? Require life vests at all times? Of course not, it’d be as idiotic as making kids wear masks. Life is full of little dangers, like the common cold that actually does kill kids and driving, so we make common sense risk assessments and carry on. Unfortunately, when it comes to covid, we don’t even bother assessing the risk and throw the concept of common sense out the window.
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A buddy of mine in the last three weeks, his granddaughter, son, daughter in law all got the covid. For one year he said its all bullshit. He said him and all of his family will never get the vaccine. His boy ended up in the hospital for a few days. The other two pulled through with no problem. The son is still off of work.
A lot can move on with no problem. Oh my friend still won't get the vaccine, his choice, I could care, but when he goes out he wears a mask. I got the shot and never wear the mask. I hate the mask. As for the kids, don't do what I do, do what I say. I hate those fucking mask also. But until they get a handle on the Virus, make them wear them.
I don't want to be one of the 600,000. I especially don't want to see any kid get it. I know I would be devastated if any of my family were to go that way. If you can save one kid by wearing a mask in school its worth it. All my grand-kids in school had a lot less sickness last year by wearing a mask. A lot of the parents also didn't get the diseases by the kids wearing a mask. Not many had the flu from everyone wearing a mask last year. So that ought to tell you something.
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07-22-2021, 01:06 PM
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A buddy of mine in the last three weeks, his granddaughter, son, daughter in law all got the covid. For one year he said its all bullshit. He said him and all of his family will never get the vaccine. His boy ended up in the hospital for a few days. The other two pulled through with no problem. The son is still off of work.
A lot can move on with no problem. Oh my friend still won't get the vaccine, his choice, I could care, but when he goes out he wears a mask. I got the shot and never wear the mask. I hate the mask. As for the kids, don't do what I do, do what I say. I hate those fucking mask also. But until they get a handle on the Virus, make them wear them.
I don't want to be one of the 600,000. I especially don't want to see any kid get it. I know I would be devastated if any of my family were to go that way. If you can save one kid by wearing a mask in school its worth it. All my grand-kids in school had a lot less sickness last year by wearing a mask. A lot of the parents also didn't get the diseases by the kids wearing a mask. Not many had the flu from everyone wearing a mask last year. So that ought to tell you something.
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https://www.aappublications.org/news...d-cases-041921
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07-22-2021, 05:55 PM
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A buddy of mine in the last three weeks, his granddaughter, son, daughter in law all got the covid. For one year he said its all bullshit. He said him and all of his family will never get the vaccine. His boy ended up in the hospital for a few days. The other two pulled through with no problem. The son is still off of work.
A lot can move on with no problem. Oh my friend still won't get the vaccine, his choice, I could care, but when he goes out he wears a mask. I got the shot and never wear the mask. I hate the mask. As for the kids, don't do what I do, do what I say. I hate those fucking mask also. But until they get a handle on the Virus, make them wear them.
I don't want to be one of the 600,000. I especially don't want to see any kid get it. I know I would be devastated if any of my family were to go that way. If you can save one kid by wearing a mask in school its worth it. All my grand-kids in school had a lot less sickness last year by wearing a mask. A lot of the parents also didn't get the diseases by the kids wearing a mask. Not many had the flu from everyone wearing a mask last year. So that ought to tell you something.
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What does any of this shit have to do with Florida. Oh, I know - you were exposed multiple times as a liar about Florida so now you are trying to change the subject
Meanwhile back ON TOPIC
Ron DeSantis’ Common Sense Approach To Vaccine Hesitancy
https://radio.foxnews.com/2021/07/22...ine-hesitancy/
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