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Old 05-18-2021, 06:17 PM   #46
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Exactly the point I've made in 2 previous posts. Fauci has done extensive research on viruses but none on the COVID19 virus.

Here is my statement:

"Fauci does not do research on the virus", and when I said "the virus" anyone with half a brain could tell I meant the coronavirus. Fauci no longer does his own lab research.
How do you know that's true? The National Enquirer? We know about Covid 19 because that is the year it got out of the lab. Who knows how long they've had that thing socked away. There is a branch of liberalism that recommends an occasional culling of the herd of humanity; George Bernard Shaw, Margaret Sanger, Thomas Malthus, and Anthony Faucci?? These virus designed to take out the elderly and the chronically infirm.
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Old 05-18-2021, 06:22 PM   #47
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Ditto,

I can't be the only one who has noticed that people who do get the flu shot every year still tend to get the flu more often than many of us who have NEVER gotten the flu shot.

I feel much the same about personally getting the COVID vaccine. I have only a very tiny fear of the vaccine, but I really have to admit that I have ZERO fear of COVID myself. I feel like my risk from COVID is somewhere around one in a million and my risk from the vaccine is around one in 999,999. As a gambling man I'll go with the one in a million chance of COVID> lol
People who get vaccinated as adults regularly generally have a weaker immune system because it's being bypassed by a needle. The idea that a vaccine trains the Immune System is a total crock of shit. Your Tonsils actually provide that service.
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Old 05-18-2021, 07:38 PM   #48
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From everything I've read on the subject


Which could be the problem. Sorry, couldn't pass that up.


we not only have not reached herd immunity in this country,we may never reach it.


Anything is possible. I'm talking about what it looks like now.


The attached article states that as many as 85% of the people in this country need to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity. There is no assurance that getting Covid means you can't get it again in the future. No one knows how long the antibodies last. My son got a rather severe case of Covid and has now gotten the vaccine.






https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/herd-immunity

The estimate for the Pfizer vaccine that I took is 95% effectiveness and if I do get Covid it will be much milder than had I not been vaccinated.



And isn't that in effect the only thing that really matters, fewer hospitalizations and deaths. From what I read the majority of people like Bill Mahr, who got vaccinated and has now tested positive for Covid, will remain asymptomatic.


In Texas the other day there were no deaths from Covid. The number of Covid cases was the lowest in about a year.


32.8% of Texans have been vaccinated. No deaths, lowest cases in a year, sounds like herd immunity to me because of all those with natural antibodies.


As the number of people in this country (and other countries where the vaccination rate is high like Israel and Great Britain) getting the vaccines increase, the Covid infection rate is dropping dramatically. The vaccines work.

Not sure whether you missed my point or just flat out rejected it.


Vaccinated people plus people with antibodies will get us to herd immunity. Herd immunity is not based on vaccinations only.


Vaccines appear to work and natural antibodies seem to work...... for now.

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Untested ,
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When the vaccine was first introduced Liberals on this Board were praising it's 95% effectiveness. I posted it was 95% effective at fucking people up. Was I wrong?
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:59 AM   #52
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When the vaccine was first introduced Liberals on this Board were praising it's 95% effectiveness. I posted it was 95% effective at fucking people up. Was I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong.
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Yes, you are wrong.
If recipients of the vaccine are experiencing adverse reactions and even death at a significant rate how was I wrong?
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Old 05-19-2021, 10:24 AM   #54
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Again, why get vaccinated for something that has over a 99% survival rate!

Line up for micro-chipping
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:05 AM   #55
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:09 AM   #57
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If recipients of the vaccine are experiencing adverse reactions and even death at a significant rate how was I wrong?
I wouldn't say "at a significant rate". The risk of dying from the vaccine is on par with winning a lottery, of course I rate my risk of dying from COVID at even longer odds.

The way I look at it eventually EVERYBODY, or at least almost everybody is either going to get the vaccine, actually get COVID, or in some cases BOTH and that will fit everyone's definition of herd immunity.

Ok, even then I doubt Fauci is going to admit that it will be safe to come out of our basements, but everyone without an axe to grind will have to admit the pandemic is behind us at that point
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And then there’s this!


https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-...re-deadly.html
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I wouldn't say "at a significant rate". The risk of dying from the vaccine is on par with winning a lottery, of course I rate my risk of dying from COVID at even longer odds.

The way I look at it eventually EVERYBODY, or at least almost everybody is either going to get the vaccine, actually get COVID, or in some cases BOTH and that will fit everyone's definition of herd immunity.

Ok, even then I doubt Fauci is going to admit that it will be safe to come out of our basements, but everyone without an axe to grind will have to admit the pandemic is behind us at that point
Vaccines are a "One Size Fits All" sort of thing. Everyone reacts differently to medications and vaccines. When the vaccine is administered the recipient doesn't have the virus in it's active form or shouldn't anyway. Nobody really knows what the short or long term effects will be especially a Vaccine that is really untested and in it's initial stages. This vaccine could have a debilitating effect on some bodily systems years later and nobody would or could identify the connection. With Medications a person can simply stop taking them with vaccines they can't be removed from the body.
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Vaccines are a "One Size Fits All" sort of thing. Everyone reacts differently to medications and vaccines. When the vaccine is administered the recipient doesn't have the virus in it's active form or shouldn't anyway. Nobody really knows what the short or long term effects will be especially a Vaccine that is really untested and in it's initial stages. This vaccine could have a debilitating effect on some bodily systems years later and nobody would or could identify the connection. With Medications a person can simply stop taking them with vaccines they can't be removed from the body.
This statement is wholly inaccurate. First of all vaccines and medications are normally removed from the body over a short period of time. They can have semi or permanent effects on the body but the actual vaccines and medications don't stick around. The body will eventually purge them. The claim that the Covid-19 vaccination shots have killed more people than all the other vaccines in the last 20 years combined is also provably false.

https://factcheck.afp.com/us-governm...ine-death-toll

More than 1.5 billion people worldwide have gotten one of the coronavirus vaccines and the number of adverse reactions is minuscule in comparison. The number of deaths from covid-19 are much higher in comparison.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...-distribution/

I urge everyone to either get the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine as soon as possible. Do it for your community. A recent CDC study confirms 95% efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/98341...derna-vaccines
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