Possible Vaccine Coming out of Israel

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Revenant

Where did you hear that bullshit?

Can you provide a cite to a REPUTABLE source?

Also, the drug has been around for decades, there are lots of suppliers. It's not like there is only one source. So, how is he going to make money?

It's no use, Rev. The libtards are completely hysterical, irrational and impervious to reason. They will pick up and run with any anti-trump narrative, however implausible.

Even the New York Fucking Times is pedaling this nonsense. I long ago stopped calling the NYT "reputable".

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/u...aria-drug.html

This is why reasonable people who don't like trump wind up voting for him anyway.

[Revenant]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Hitler wiping out Jews doesn’t make Jews a race, it makes them one of many unfortunate groups on the receiving end of his ire. He also murdered Gypsies, the disabled, Slavs, gays, Germans who disagreed with his politics, and on and on, none of which are races.

@Fred
Agreed, I just found him tap dancing around the reason why the mortality rate is so high among that particular demographic entertaining.

Why is everybody arguing about whether or not they are a race?

They are an ethnic group that traces their lineage back to a small group of tribes in the Middle East about 4 or 5 millennia ago. They don't have to be exclusively a race or a religion. There are other, more sensible choices.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Edit: Lusty, I see you posted below. I have all of the pgh trailer park crew on ignore because they're well; dumb white trash and below me. Please come back later

It's ok, Luke. I understand why you shake and tremble when confronted with incontrovertible arguments from superior intellects who laugh at your obvious deep-seated insecurities. Makes sense for you to hide behind the ignore function.

[Revenant]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'
Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.

Israeli scientists are on the cusp of developing the first vaccine against the novel coronavirus, according to Science and Technology Minister Ofir Akunis. If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be ready within a few weeks and available in 90 days, according to a release.
“Congratulations to MIGAL [The Galilee Research Institute] on this exciting breakthrough,” Akunis said. “I am confident there will be further rapid progress, enabling us to provide a needed response to the grave global COVID-19 threat,” Akunis said, referring to the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE...vaccine-619101

Mark Levin linked this from his twitter account...

How could they possibly know what they will have in a couple of weeks?

"If all goes as planned..."

"... the vaccine COULD BE ready..."

That sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me.

Vaccines for seasonal flu are largely hit or miss and we have decades of experience with that. How can they state with any confidence what will happen with coronavirus?

The US government is using the latest IBM supercomputer to narrow down a huge list of chemicals/medicines that might work as treatments. But even that may prove fruitless.

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by Revenant

How could they possibly know what they will have in a couple of weeks?

"If all goes as planned..."

"... the vaccine COULD BE ready..."

That sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me.

Vaccines for seasonal flu are largely hit or miss and we have decades of experience with that. How can they state with any confidence what will happen with coronavirus?

The US government is using the latest IBM supercomputer to narrow down a huge list of chemicals/medicines that might work as treatments. But even that may prove fruitless.

Very well said. It's kind of like trying to find a needle in the haystack now as far as the vaccines for this virus. I'll believe it when I see it. I doubt I will see it any day/month soon though.

These health experts don't even really know what it is yet. How the fuck are they going to figure out a vaccine for a virus that they don't even currently know and understand to date?

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Unfriendly Jew Fred is still talking a lot. I'm assuming it's about me but I don't care to read that idiot's posts.

LM, FF has made no mention of you in the posts in this thread. so don't be so paranoid about him.

FF has posted a link to an article about an israeli vaccine in msg #1.

then we get into this jewish stuff as whether or not jews are a religion and/or ethnic group.

FF was making references to Yssup Rider aka HoeHummer, not you.
he was just ripping him.

[Lucas McCain]

My bad, Dilbert and my apologies to FF. I'm not paranoid about anything but when I see a lot of the people who I have on ignore posting together, I just assumed it was about me. I'm guessing one of those clowns mentioned me though. I apparently picked the wrong one. And no, you don't have to tell me. I already know how the pgh trailer park crew operates so I already know those old pathetic losers were trying to sniff my nuts like the stray dogs that they are.

[The_Waco_Kid]

PLEASE SAVE US ALL!!



OH THE HUMANITY!















BAHHAAAA

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by lustylad

+1

Thanks for doing the yeoman's work of exposing how ludicrous it is for blissnpissboy to say trump is motivated by personal financial gain if he touts the current go-to drug for treating covid-19 patients around the world.

Gee, if I own a few tiny shares in a mutual fund or, better yet, an S&P500 index fund, I have a stake in just about every company in corporate America. Doesn't matter if it's only a few hundred bucks or 0.00001% of my portfolio value. It makes my motives corrupt whatever I do!

This is what trump means when he says the fake news media is completely dishonest.

P.S. Ever notice how blissnpissboy never defends himself whenever we catch him and call him out for his lies?

The stupid DPST's don't really understand investing.

Glad to see you back.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Unfriendly Jew Fred is still talking a lot. I'm assuming it's about me but I don't care to read that idiot's posts.

Let me ask you this though, Frederick; do you not think the midget hooker you are in love with who you gave all of your personal information to would not give it all to me if I paid her to do so? Think about that simple fact. She would give me all of your personal information in a second for the right price. And trust me, I can afford it. lol

Don't worry though. If I really wanted to find you, I don't need her. I don't care enough to find a pathetic loser like you and I never will so don't worry about me.

Edit: Lusty, I see you posted below. I have all of the pgh trailer park crew on ignore because they're well; dumb white trash and below me. Please come back later

To begin with, she is very petite, not a midget. She is a very honest and ethical and a wonderful person. I have always been very fond of her and as far as loving her I do, but not really in the sense that you characterize it.

Plus, if you pay her $5000 I will tell her she is free to tell you everything about me that she knows - or she can name the price.

She doesn't need the money but I wouldn't want to stop her from getting easy money during these weird times.

I will message you her contact details if you agree to pay her. The contact would be done in a way which would preserve her privacy - I would never reveal anything about her to harm her in any way - though she doesn't really tend to hide things, I assure you.

Of course, if you aren't scared to meet up with me at 4700 Drexel, I'll be jogging by that address this morning. I'll tell you exactly who the fuck I am in person.

[Missburger]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

To begin with, she is very petite, not a midget. She is a very honest and ethical and a wonderful person. I have always been very fond of her and as far as loving her I do, but not really in the sense that you characterize it.

Plus, if you pay her $5000 I will tell her she is free to tell you everything about me that she knows - or she can name the price.

She doesn't need the money but I wouldn't want to stop her from getting easy money during these weird times.

I will message you her contact details if you agree to pay her. The contact would be done in a way which would preserve her privacy - I would never reveal anything about her to harm her in any way - though she doesn't really tend to hide things, I assure you.

lol midget hooker,

ha ha

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Missburger

lol midget hooker,

ha ha

I don't see that someone actually being a midget is a reasonable way to insult someone, but she isn't a "midget" even though Lucas disparages people with that disability.

[HoeHummer]

Dwarf? Like your sense of humanity?

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

I wondered where BWK got that information about Trump making money from Hydroxychloquine. I heard it was being peddled on NBC so unlike BWK, I thought I would look into it.


https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...g-maker-2020-4


Trump has a distant financial link to a pharma giant that makes the drug he's been pushing to fight COVID-19 — but it's probably worth less than $1,000

President Donald Trump reportedly has a "small personal financial interest" in a drugmaker that produces hydroxychloroquine, a drug he has been enthusiastically touting as a possible treatment for the new coronavirus, according to a Monday New York Times report.

"As of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts each had investments in a Dodge & Cox mutual fund, whose largest holding was in Sanofi," The Times wrote. Sanofi is a French drugmaker that produces hydroxychloroquine pills under the brand name Plaquenil.

A mutual fund is a portfolio that pools together money from several investors and then invests across various asset classes such as stocks, bonds and other forms of debt.

Business Insider followed the paper trail and concluded that the holding has a maximum value of around $1,300, only slightly larger than similar holdings by Trump funds in Google parent Alphabet, FedEx, and the French bank BNP Paribas.

Here is the logic:
The Dodge & Cox holdings are mentioned in this disclosure form, logged with the US Office of Government Ethics in May 2019.
Each of three family funds list a holding in the Dodge & Cox International Stocks Fund, valued between $1,000 and $15,000.
The funds are managed by JP Morgan without any input from Trump.

According to a prospectus dated December 2019, the Dodge & Cox fund in question has Sanofi as its largest holding at 2.9%.
If all three Dodge & Cox holdings are worth the full $15,000 — $45,000 in total — then a 2.9% share of that is $1,305.
Assuming, each holding is the minimum $1,000 — a total of $3,000 — then the 2.9% stake would equate to $87.

Far from a fan of Trump

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/7/2121187...gs-sanofi-owns


Trump’s promotion of unproven drugs is cause for alarm, but not because he’s making money off it


Trump indirectly owns a minute stake in a company that makes hydroxychloroquine. But that doesn’t seem to be why he’s been promoting it.
A Monday New York Times report appeared to offer one possible new explanation: financial interest — his own, and that of those close to him.
Per the Times:

If hydroxychloroquine becomes an accepted treatment, several pharmaceutical companies stand to profit, including shareholders and senior executives with connections to the president. Mr. Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine.

However, Trump’s Sanofi stake is indirect and rather small — he owns shares through a fund that includes a diverse array of stocks. As Vox’s Emily Stewart noted, a government official repeatedly promoting a product made by a company they have a minute stake in would be a very inefficient way to be corrupt:
“I certainly understand why the president is pushing it,” Rosenberg told the Times. “He has to project hope. And when you are in a situation without hope, things go very badly. So I’m not faulting him for pushing it even if there isn’t a lot of science behind it, because it is, at this point, the best, most available option for use.”
But the report of Trumpworld’s connections to the pharmaceutical industry caused many to believe something more sinister was afoot — namely, that Trump hoped to use the coronavirus pandemic to enrich himself and his allies.


Trump has been accused of many crimes — but doesn’t seem to be doing anything wrong this time

Trump has on numerous occasions been accused of, put under investigation for, and refused to rule out using his position to financially benefit himself. And he was, of course, impeached about four months ago on charges of using his office for his political benefit.


It’s this history that has online observers, political strategists, and journalists highlighting the president’s financial ties to Sanofi, which makes hydroxychloroquine.
But while there are a number of outstanding questions about Trump’s financial stakes and how his current role influences them, it isn’t clear there is great cause for concern with respect to his pharmaceutical holdings.


For one, the president doesn’t directly own Sanofi stock. His 2019 financial disclosures suggest he holds it in three family trusts through an investment in the mutual fund company Dodge & Cox’s international stock fund. According to Dodge & Cox, that fund includes shares of a number of drug companies — including AstraZeneca, Novartis, Bayer, GlaxoSmithKline, and Sanofi. But it also includes shares of companies in other industries, from online retail to banking to electronics. And of the drug companies it does include, only some, like Novartis and Sanofi, are major manufacturers of hydroxychloroquine.


This would suggest that the president — and anyone else who bought this particular Dodge & Cox product — may not profit very much from increased hydroxychloroquine sales, and that any benefits drug companies in the portfolio see may not be enough to offset the loses of other included companies.
Trump’s financial disclosures don’t show exactly how much each trust has invested in the fund, but they do say it is $15,000 or less. Financial Times reporter Kadhim Shubber wrote this means the president’s stake in Sanofi is likely worth about $450.


But as we all know by now, BWK could care less what the truth is. How ironic is it that a person who professes to be upset at someone he perceives to be a liar and careless with his words is exactly that person himself. BWK is merely repeating what he heard from more than likely NBC or other MSM outlet without doing any research at all. Surprising? Nope.

Thanks for the constructive post - pointing out the LSM and Fascist DPST's complete avoidance of "FACTS" - they are consumed with political and personal hatred of Trump - and allow their hate to affect every thought and action.

LSM is not to be trusted.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Very well said. It's kind of like trying to find a needle in the haystack now as far as the vaccines for this virus. I'll believe it when I see it. I doubt I will see it any day/month soon though.

These health experts don't even really know what it is yet. How the fuck are they going to figure out a vaccine for a virus that they don't even currently know and understand to date?

Developing a vaccine is not - "needle in a haystack - but a scientific process. The wuhan virus genome is defined, and at least two strains in the US - and we are able to follow the pathway through the world of the virus.

It takes time to prove the efficacy nd safety of a new vaccine/drug - the responsibility of the FDA.

If the Israelis have a breakthrough - it will be reviewed and fast-tracked for US studies.

We will not have a vaccine for Wuham virus for at least a year.

IMHO!


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