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Old 10-04-2019, 09:14 AM   #46
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I don't get it. What's wrong with wearing a hat that urges citizens of ALL tribes to come together and Make America Great Again? I just don't understand the basis for objecting. Why would it even be controversial to anyone? It's like advocating apple pie, motherhood, Norman Rockwell or Yankee Doodle.

Do people like mystic and wtf want to make America weak or mediocre or 2nd rate or poor or divided... or what?

Everyone's vision of what a truly great America would look like doesn't have to be identical. But the simple desire to achieve that greatness is a fine and noble sentiment that nobody should take issue with.

Calling someone "un-American" for exhorting their fellow Americans to greatness is as illogical as calling Patrick Henry and George Washington traitors to our nation.
apple pie, motherhood, norman rockwell and yankee doodle, along with the phrase "make america great again"

all good things to americans

but to the left they are dog whistles of capitalism and liberty and white supremacy and a return to some date of oppression

the old order must be burned to the ground you know, white people must die, open borders must swap them,

if you don't have white guilt and hate yourself, you are part of the problem

but after that, when they succeed, they will turn next to some other group, Asians perhaps and war against them, and then another and another group.

they are group focused and not America focused

while we are America focused and believe in the organizational aspects of America with free enterprise etc and desire assimilation of all people into a love of america and wish all to succeed

these people here, dumb as they might be and ,yes, mere stooges, and don't understand the left's war against America, remain useful for now

many are too busy just voting themselves some personal benefit
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:33 AM   #47
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apple pie, motherhood, norman rockwell and yankee doodle, along with the phrase "make america great again"

all good things to americans

but to the left they are dog whistles of white supremacy and a return to some date of oppression
That's utterly illogical. Our history includes the Emancipation Proclamation and the Civil Rights movement. Were those not moments of greatness? If I wear a MAGA hat while visiting the Lincoln Memorial and the MLK Memorial to pay homage to those moments - how am I a white supremacist?

As I said, we don't all have to embrace identical visions of greatness. But the simple yearning for greatness is an uplifting, patriotic and uncontroversial impulse.

Opposing it is akin to opposing apple pie and motherhood.
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:36 AM   #48
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That's utterly illogical. Our history includes the Emancipation Proclamation and the Civil Rights movement. Were those not moments of greatness? If I wear a MAGA hat while visiting the Lincoln Memorial and the MLK Memorial to pay homage to those moments - how am I a white supremacist?

As I said, we don't all have to embrace identical visions of greatness. But the simple yearning for greatness is an uplifting, patriotic and uncontroversial impulse.
never said it was logical

hatreds and desires for power drive logic from the field

while hong kong kids wave American flags in the fight for truth and freedom, our left considers the flag a symbol of wrongs and oppression and racism and, when in local power, ban it
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:57 AM   #49
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I don't get it.

What's wrong with wearing a hat that urges ALL tribes to come together and Make America Great Again? Great again? You mean by restricting the right to vote? The right for women to choose? ….. I don't understand the basis for objecting. Of course you don't with your IQ. Why is it even controversial? Because it is a bullshit dog whistle that makes you howl at the moon! It's like apple pie, motherhood, Norman Rockwell or Yankee Doodle. Don't forget Jim Crow and Tammany Hall type corruption.

Do people like mystic and wtf want to make America weak or mediocre or 2nd rate or poor or divided... or what exactly? We'd like to make the future better....not go back to the past

Everyone's vision of what a truly great America would look like doesn't have to be identical. But the simple desire to achieve that greatness is a fine and noble sentiment that nobody can take issue with. And a MAGA hat represents oppression to over half the country because of the vision or direction that leader wants to take.

Unless they're anti-American. It is anti American to not agree with the direction a political party wants to take the country?

Calling someone "un-American" for exhorting their fellow Americans to greatness But that is not wtf the hat is doing Grasshopper is like calling Patrick Henry and George Washington traitors to our nation. The black slaves owned by these men might not have thought America was so great back then. It's completely illogical. A Queer like you thinks it illogical I do not want to suck a dick...Hmmmmmmm. And it can only reflect the accuser's deep discomfort and insecurity with simple and love of country. Your ignorance of the hat being a symbol of political discourse and confusing it with some symbol of love of country is similar to what Hitler said about the Germans who weren't down with the swastikas' and running out the Jews.


Germany's version of MAGA didn't work out so well....

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never said it was logical

hatreds and desires for power drive logic from the field

while hong kong kids wave American flags in the fight for truth and freedom, our left considers the flag a symbol of wrongs and oppression and racism and, when in local power, bans it
Yes in China , you can not burn their flag.....the irony of what is happening in Hong Kong and them waving our flag is probably lost on you.


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Old 10-04-2019, 10:06 AM   #51
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Germany's version of MAGA didn't work out so well....


with hitler, it never was about maga or in this case MGGA or MDWG (in german)
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Old 10-04-2019, 10:12 AM   #52
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WTF has picked up a lesson from TM and the Axis of Socialism - with no cogent argument - Scream "NAZI".

How foolish - to claim Hitler and a MAGA hat have anything in common - except in a demented DPST mind.
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with hitler, it never was about maga or in this case MGGA or MDWG (in german)
Yes, of course it was.

Make Germany Great Again was all it was about. Once they bought into that bullshit , they denounced anyone who saw through their bullshit and labeled them enemies of the state. Wasn't long before they had the whole country walking in lock step...


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WTF has picked up a lesson from TM and the Axis of Socialism - with no cogent argument - Scream "NAZI".

How foolish - to claim Hitler and a MAGA hat have anything in common - except in a demented DPST mind.
Hitler picked out a evil from within (Jews)

Trump picked out Muslims and Mexicans.

Now he is asking the country we are in a trade war with to give him dirt on his domestic political enemy. And his followers are going along with it because they hate in Hitler's case Jews and so called Socialist's. In your case Mexicans and Muslims and so called Socialist's.


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And the DPST response is more socialism and totalitarian control.

Thank You - WTF - One illustrates the Conservative argument perfectly.
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And the DPST response is more socialism and totalitarian control.

Thank You - WTF - One illustrates the Conservative argument perfectly.
Conservative argument?????


You think Trump is a Conservative?

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Deprecation is an idiot's argument in debate - but it is all the Axis of socialism has.

LOL
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apple pie, motherhood, norman rockwell and yankee doodle, along with the phrase "make america great again"

all good things to americans

but to the left they are dog whistles of capitalism and liberty and white supremacy and a return to some date of oppression

the old order must be burned to the ground you know, white people must die, open borders must swap them,

if you don't have white guilt and hate yourself, you are part of the problem

but after that, when they succeed, they will turn next to some other group, Asians perhaps and war against them, and then another and another group.

they are group focused and not America focused

while we are America focused and believe in the organizational aspects of America with free enterprise etc and desire assimilation of all people into a love of america and wish all to succeed

these people here, dumb as they might be and ,yes, mere stooges, and don't understand the left's war against America, remain useful for now

many are too busy just voting themselves some personal benefit
typical lying Scardy cat. name one time white people were eliminated from America, the borders were opened, forced white guilt, etc. Replaced? Defending Trump is getting harder to do. Trump took a great country, that was in good shape and has turned it into a borderline evil empire. That man is a hateful loser who has sold out America for personal gain
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Deprecation is an idiot's argument in debate - but it is all the Axis of socialism has.

LOL
Arguing with an idiot is deprecation enough.

I'm done with you.

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I should be so lucky that any of the A of S would be done with me!!!
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To borrow from a Conservative - "You'll be Back!"
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