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Old 08-16-2017, 10:15 AM   #46
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If you cannot denounce hate and bigotry then you stand with them.



There are no winners in this thing. It actually shows how weak this country has become. From taking down statues, to the city Government of Charlottesville, to both sides of the protest. You'll see this sort of mayhem in other cities and the media will report it in a biased manner as they have been doing with anything else political. No country has ever been ruined from the outside, it must first happen from within. That is exactly what's happening to America now.

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Old 08-16-2017, 01:33 PM   #47
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Even Tiki torch denounced the alt right.
What kind of bad ass carries a Tiki torch?
Must have stolen them from their mothers padio.
I'm not the only one who thought that! Whew!

It's missing something else though too...

Oh yeah.

They forgot to go by bed bath & beyond to get their white bedsheets!
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Old 08-16-2017, 01:44 PM   #48
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Fucking cowards.
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Old 08-16-2017, 02:27 PM   #49
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The trend right now is to destroy an area of American History that is associated with the Civil War. Because the Civil War in the minds of small men depicts only one thing and that is slavery, which of course equates to racism. So any city in America that has erected a monument of any Civil War nostalgia will remove it or be compelled to remove it. Eventually this will gravitate into other areas of American History where something of our past must be stifled and removed from our minds because somehow it is offensive or vile and we must not remember or teach it. Soon America won't have a history worth remembering, teaching or learning anything from. America will then be a country of dumb down citizens not knowing where they came from or even why they are here.

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Fucking cowards.
Don't be so judgmental, oinkboy.... the Gaystopo is looking for new members.




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The binary notion that if you don't oppose something then you must support is obnoxious and faulty. Most people oppose cancer and I've never heard of anyone supporting cancer (except for a few libs who always want someone on the right to die of it) but most people will never put a ribbon on their car or donate money to fight it. Same thing with racism, the Klan, and Nazis. The vast majority of people will never support them but the vast majority of people will never give them a second thought. The whole "if you don't oppose, then you must support..." meme kind of a form of fascism in itself. You're trying to force people into doing something that they don't want to do because YOU think it's the right thing to do.

Has anyone here actually known a real live Nazi or Klansman?
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The binary notion that if you don't oppose something then you must support is obnoxious and faulty.

HILARIOUS! You're pals here have done nothing but that since Day 1. Are you going to call them obnoxious and faulty?


Has anyone here actually known a real live Nazi or Klansman?
Yes. Have you?
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If you condone this.



Then you have insulted every one of these.

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The trend right now is to destroy an area of American History that is associated with the Civil War. Because the Civil War in the minds of small men depicts only one thing and that is slavery, which of course equates to racism. So any city in America that has erected a monument of any Civil War nostalgia will remove it or be compelled to remove it. Eventually this will gravitate into other areas of American History where something of our past must be stifled and removed from our minds because somehow it is offensive or vile and we must not remember or teach it. Soon America won't have a history worth remembering, teaching or learning anything from. America will then be a country of dumb down citizens not knowing where they came from or even why they are here.

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Where were YOU during the Civil War, Jim?

We should teach history and know it.

But this is not a singly ethnic nation and never has been. If you want to celebrate the horrors of the past, then this goes way beyond "removing history" or "culture" as the Orange Sphincter said.
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Seems eye witness account from left leaning sources place the blame on counter-protesters.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...815-story.html
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Where were YOU during the Civil War, Jim?

We should teach history and know it.

But this is not a singly ethnic nation and never has been. If you want to celebrate the horrors of the past, then this goes way beyond "removing history" or "culture" as the Orange Sphincter said.
I wasn't alive during the Civil War and neither were you. You aren't a slave and never been one or known one. This country has some dark sides to it's history but that doesn't mean we should hide from it and pretend it never happened. Doing that will never change anything.

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The binary notion that if you don't oppose something then you must support is obnoxious and faulty. You're trying to force people into doing something that they don't want to do because YOU think it's the right thing to do.

Has anyone here actually known a real live Nazi or Klansman?
On most issues you're certainly correct. But it's not that WE think it's right to fight racism, it's that racism is a completely invalid opinion.

People in town are voting to have those statues removed. Maybe they'll regret it later. But they are saying that they do not want any relic that may lend credence to the idea that they think it was acceptable.


What exactly are the supremacist idiots arguing anyway? Every argument was debunked and rejected long agi.
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People in town are voting to have those statues removed... What exactly are the supremacist idiots arguing anyway?
You are falsely juxtaposing opposition to removal of statues with white supremacy. Of course, libtards want to conflate the two but that's complete bullshit.

I can make a strong case for keeping our history intact without endorsing anything having to do with white supremacy.

Most towns are not submitting these decisions to a local referendum or vote. IMO statues should remain up if even a significant minority wants them. Give the protesters permission to erect their own statues rather than tear down existing ones.
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On most issues you're certainly correct. But it's not that WE think it's right to fight racism, it's that racism is a completely invalid opinion.

People in town are voting to have those statues removed. Maybe they'll regret it later. But they are saying that they do not want any relic that may lend credence to the idea that they think it was acceptable.


What exactly are the supremacist idiots arguing anyway? Every argument was debunked and rejected long agi.
I could say the same things about Obamacare (the experts predicted the meltdown), the Iran Deal (Iran is breaking it now), and the Framework under Clinton (it advanced North Korea's nuclear program). People can believe in stupid shit like unicorns, bigfoot, and Bill Clinton's paternity of Chelsea. It is not the belief, it is the right for every American to believe as they will. That right was enumerated in the Constitution. If you don't recognize that they you are part of the fascist movement yourself. Strange, the liberals of the 1960s used to say (much to the chagrin of the right), "I don't agree with what you say but will defend with my life your right to say it.". What happened to the real liberals?
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Kessler was a 0zombie...

Shit Eater is FULL OF SHIT!

BREAKING: Charlotsville “Unite the Right” Organizer Was Occupy Wall St. Activist & Obama Supporter!

Posted on August 14, 2017 by DCWhispers




Well this is fishy. His name is Jason Kessler. He is the one cited as the organizer of the now infamous “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. The thing is, Mr. Kessler’s arrival on the “alt right” and/or “White Nationalist” scene didn’t occur until November 2016.

That’s right – Kessler didn’t start his white nationalist activism until after Donald Trump won the White House. Prior to that it appears he participated in the far left/socialist Occupy Wall Street movement as noted by the far-left, George Soros-funded Southern Poverty Law Center

Rumors abound on white nationalist forums that Kessler’s ideological pedigree before 2016 was less than pure and seem to point to involvement in the Occupy movement and past support for President Obama.

At one recent speech in favor of Charlottesville’s status as a sanctuary city, Kessler live-streamed himself as an attendee questioned him and apologized for an undisclosed spat during Kessler’s apparent involvement with Occupy. Kessler appeared visibly perturbed by the woman’s presence and reminders of their past association.

It also appears Mr. Kessler was actually a CNN on site correspondent during the Occupy protests: (these are being archived as it appears CNN is attempting to scrub its former affiliation with Mr. Kessler

Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/breaking-charl...B2ukPGomlo7.99
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