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03-26-2011, 12:14 AM
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I've been escorting long enough to realize men will jerk off to ur pics instead of paying to see you. But a hand is no substitution for a woman and eventually they call you. Oh, I know when someone is trying to use me as a penpal too. I tell them to get lost I aint your freaking pen pal.
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03-26-2011, 10:25 PM
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The worst thing that could happen to a hobbyist is to fall in love with a provider. Your bank account will go to zero and, because the provider will most likely grow tired of u and kick yo ass to the curve, you might develop a strong dislike for them (providers) that may lead to something far worse. Honestly speaking (and with no shame ), I think having a gf prevent me from this. I see providers just to fulfill my fantasies and nothing else. "Aint no pussy gonna control me", like my bro always says
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03-28-2011, 07:45 AM
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i too have been guilty of sending
an occasional thank you email. while i realize it is first and foremost a job for these women i like to pretend that maybe they enjoyed the interaction 1/100th as much as me and look forward to our next get together. if i am ever able to get a chance to bang you London.. er i mean Isis perhaps you would appreciate a note more like... london er..Isis thank you for agreeing to take my $400 in exchange for letting me use your body for an hour. there were moments i enjoyed and while i am sure you did not who cares you got paid.. when i was pounding you from behind it felt alright but kinda wish it had a smoother tighter feel.. as i had experienced with some $200 hr girls. While your breasts were not as nice as your pictures indicated i did enjoy cumming on them but was kinda disturbed you sat around for 3minutes [or 22.00 of time] without cleaning them so i could enjoy sucking on them some more. the dato was perhaps a bit of a turnoff too maybe a shower closer to appointment time would be better. as i hit the 50 minute mark i thought i have $65 of pleasure still to get from our business relationship and your starting to tidy up. i wish you would have just got on your knees and blew me for 600 seconds. then when the final gun went at 60 minutes i was very offended you wanted to use my room without compensating me for god knows what purpose.. perhaps to ready yourself for your next business meeting, on my dime.
i apologize for being so inconsiderate for an occasion pming a woman telling how much i enjoyed her company, her looks and the activities we shared, and that i look forward to doing it again. thanks to you isis i will try hard to think of these terrific women less as friends and companions, people i enjoy their company and companionship and more as a receptacle to be filled as often as possible within a contracted time frame. i think if we all can learn to enjoy this attitude and perspective the john can enjoy feeling like a lonely creep exchanging his hard eared cash for his only chance at sex and the whore can enjoy the feeling of a man throwing cash at her so he can rent her body for any degrading act he can enjoy in the contracted time frame. hopefully human thoughts, smiles concerns and the like never again come into play.
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Ed, I don't know how to answer that. Except to say, there is a happy medium. No, I don't want to be slapped on the backside with a "thanks now get out" type of thank you. But I also don't want the "I miss you, where are you" b.s. either. A nice thank you, a few compliments, and a reference to our next "appointment" is what I think most women prefer. Again, find the happy medium. Be nice, be sentimental, give compliments, but remember this is our job and you met us on a escort site not match dot com.......
Speaking of match dot com....I usually tell the clingy ones who are shocked this is just a job to me, I say: Sir, you met me on an escort site, not match dot com, remember?
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03-28-2011, 08:40 AM
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an occasional thank you email. while i realize it is first and foremost a job for these women i like to pretend that maybe they enjoyed the interaction 1/100th as much as me and look forward to our next get together. if i am ever able to get a chance to bang you London.. er i mean Isis perhaps you would appreciate a note more like... london er..Isis thank you for agreeing to take my $400 in exchange for letting me use your body for an hour. there were moments i enjoyed and while i am sure you did not who cares you got paid.. when i was pounding you from behind it felt alright but kinda wish it had a smoother tighter feel.. as i had experienced with some $200 hr girls. While your breasts were not as nice as your pictures indicated i did enjoy cumming on them but was kinda disturbed you sat around for 3minutes [or 22.00 of time] without cleaning them so i could enjoy sucking on them some more. the dato was perhaps a bit of a turnoff too maybe a shower closer to appointment time would be better. as i hit the 50 minute mark i thought i have $65 of pleasure still to get from our business relationship and your starting to tidy up. i wish you would have just got on your knees and blew me for 600 seconds. then when the final gun went at 60 minutes i was very offended you wanted to use my room without compensating me for god knows what purpose.. perhaps to ready yourself for your next business meeting, on my dime.
i apologize for being so inconsiderate for an occasion pming a woman telling how much i enjoyed her company, her looks and the activities we shared, and that i look forward to doing it again. thanks to you isis i will try hard to think of these terrific women less as friends and companions, people i enjoy their company and companionship and more as a receptacle to be filled as often as possible within a contracted time frame. i think if we all can learn to enjoy this attitude and perspective the john can enjoy feeling like a lonely creep exchanging his hard eared cash for his only chance at sex and the whore can enjoy the feeling of a man throwing cash at her so he can rent her body for any degrading act he can enjoy in the contracted time frame. hopefully human thoughts, smiles concerns and the like never again come into play.
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CLASSIC!!!! This should be stickied. And who says it's not all about the money?
[And after this thread, I'll never contact a lady a second time.]
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03-28-2011, 08:53 AM
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Oh my! I was about to get in my $.02, but after reading petite's post I'm was a little afraid to get in the middle. But, I'll give my opinion on the subject anyway. I agree that the guy you were talking about was dillusional. I don't agree that he was out for free sex, rather he got an emotional attachment. Some of these guys you are going to meet aren't really hobbiest. Rather they are guys with low self esteem that don't feel like they can get a girl without paying for her. So, I can see these types of guys getting attached after a great encounter, especially if he has nothing else going for him. This post will probably get overlooked with the dog fight Petite just started, but there is my input.
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03-28-2011, 09:31 AM
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i have jacked off to dozens
if not hundreds of women from this site. heres the thing. when i see a pic of a woman i would love to bang and then i read posts that make me think i would love to spend time with her as well as bang her chances are i am pounding one out fantasizing about her. if she lives near me i may pound a dozen but i am gonna meet her. if the appointment does go well i am probably reliving my hour in my mind and pounding out a few more thinking about our next meeting. in the case of girls who do not live close i probably pound away wishing against hope 1 day i get to bang them, perhaps they tour or i hit their city. while i probably will never get to spend time with bang or hang with Sonya from san antonio or Dallas Rain the women convey both an attitude and a look that make me hope against hope of one day having the honor and pleasure of both their company and their body, these are women i would love to spend time with and in. they just seem like people i wannna be around and women i wannna be inside. a woman like you, or london Rayne seem like women who men might well like to lay the pipe to once probably would not want to spend 10 minutes around. every review i have read about these 2 women and hundreds of others like them make us feel that after giving them our cash we might actually enjoy being around them before during and after sex. your attitude makes me think that about a millisecond after the last drop of jizz splattered upon your pretty face my car keys would be in the ignition and the only thing i would be fantasizing about would be the money i wish i had back. anyways if i offend a girl but dropping a note saying i enjoyed myself i am sorry if i make a fool of myself indicating the girl is on my mind after the sex is over i am so very sorry to those i have offended. if ever i spend a dime of my money or a second of my time wasted on a woman like you i can only blame myself. women like you are the reason people have low opinions of women in this business when in fact so many are wonderful fun loving , sexual women who make the world a better place instead of fungus under a rock like the few who feel they must remind us of what lowlifes we are.
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I've been escorting long enough to realize men will jerk off to ur pics instead of paying to see you. But a hand is no substitution for a woman and eventually they call you. Oh, I know when someone is trying to use me as a penpal too. I tell them to get lost I aint your freaking pen pal.
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03-28-2011, 10:02 AM
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I don't mind getting a thank you note or text from a gent after our session is over..I also send out thankyou's...
Having lived in the south for a bit of time..I think its just the right thing to do...There was a gent just recently in fact that I didn't mind the texts that were exchanged back and forth..he just kinda hit all the right buttons for me and had somehow managed to get through my steely walls...and I just generally liked him. He was a good guy..
Petite..understand that there are a few ladies out there that really appreciate a good guy, and their being a gentleman..regardless how they came to meet you. ...nita..
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03-28-2011, 10:14 AM
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+1 So true Nita, some of us are just as appreciative of them as they are of us!!
I always send thank you's!!
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03-28-2011, 10:34 AM
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As often as this complaint is aired, I'm surprised it continues to happen frequently. Most of us figured out a long time ago that even if she values and appreciates us as a client, and even if there's some degree of connection (it's still a job, but not just a job), we don't intrude further without a clear invitation. I really like some of the ladies I've seen, and some may even really like me, but nothing happens outside the appointment (maybe an infrequent email to say hi but even that's rare) unless she initiates it. Anyone who doesn't understand all this probably : (a) has emotional problems; or (b) is a manipulator, interested in free sex more than he's interested in you. If he doesn't take a hint, go ahead and be brutal; you may lose a client, but do you really want those guys as clients??
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I appreciate your wisdom Chevalier.
Thank you emails are something that I feel a lady should initiate, just because. But to get a positive response from a guy after a date should be viewed as a good thing. I don't think that guys should be afraid to say they enjoyed a person. The total person. It's a rarity to do so in any arena. That's the thing that keeps them coming back. That's what the majority of us ladies (and ALL businesses) look forward to. We should respond to these affections in the way that our customers feel welcome. The butcher who puts choice cuts of meats to the side just for you, and throws in bones for your dog doesn't respond, 'don't thank me for the meat. You pay for it.' when you tell him how you appreciate his thoughtfulness. The checkout girl at Whole Foods doesn't say 'don't be so hasty. They pay me to be nice to you' when you thank her for bagging your groceries. Of course, these things are implied.
There is a very clear line between having a friendship with your clients and having someone communicating in a stalker/manipulative way. I mean, extreme polar opposites. This requires a delicate balance. Communication with clients I think is necessary before and after meeting. Some ladies don't communicate until the day of the appointment for directions, and nothing after. I have clients that communicate with me very frequently because they're the kind of people I would communicate with in my daily life. And we don't talk about personal drama or communicate out of neediness. It just happened that way because we saw the humanity in each other despite the transaction. The transactions are better because of the humanity. Then there are others that I communicate with on a rare basis just to keep in touch. I have found that things are just better when you take the time to know who you're dealing with. Emotionally unstable people show tell-tale signs almost immediately. But I frankly don't get many of these kind. But when I do I find their communications end the way they begin. If they sound needy and manipulative from the beginning, and you see them anyway, they have no choice but to continue in the same pattern. I chose not to see or communicate with these men for that very reason. A lady should always look at what her personality says to a potential client.
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03-28-2011, 11:57 AM
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Well said Tiffany, But some people seem fine, act fine before and during the appointment. It's AFTER they get a little...strange.
Petiteassman, I never meant to offend anyone with my thread. I'm sorry I offended you. I'm sorry but you seem very hurt and angry towards women. And a little sadistic also..hmmmm. Plus, you seem to think I'm refering to all hobbyist. I am not. I am refering to the guys who respond in a needy way to me after the appointment. Truthfully, it's usually (not always) either newbies or very unhappy married men. Not the average well grounded prolific hobbyist. I see why alot of women refuse to see newbies.
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03-28-2011, 12:07 PM
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Oh my! I was about to get in my $.02, but after reading petite's post I'm was a little afraid to get in the middle. But, I'll give my opinion on the subject anyway. I agree that the guy you were talking about was dillusional. I don't agree that he was out for free sex, rather he got an emotional attachment. Some of these guys you are going to meet aren't really hobbiest. Rather they are guys with low self esteem that don't feel like they can get a girl without paying for her. So, I can see these types of guys getting attached after a great encounter, especially if he has nothing else going for him. This post will probably get overlooked with the dog fight Petite just started, but there is my input.
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Thank you for putting that is a rational, sane, non-aggressive way. I agree with what your saying completely. It's usually newbies or very unhappy people who get strange after the meeting. Just to clarify, GUYS -keep sending those thank you notes. I love thank you notes, and I think most here do. But do you think the average thank you note should say: I miss you, where are you, are you mad at me, I miss you, is this just a job for you etc etc etc?? I don't think so. That is not a thank you note, but a manipulation tactic of some form or another.
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03-28-2011, 12:43 PM
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to clarify
i guess i am offended hurt and put off by the attitude of a few select women , you perhaps amongst that group, who make it difficult to view our dates in this world as nice ladies who do what they do for the money yet still might enjoy the company of some of the guys and yes god forbid perhaps even some of the sex. sadistic could . all of us here whether we pay women for sex or sell our bodies to men we have never met before are a bit derranged in some ways. we are driven to do things that most people would not. if your neighbors new you paid total strangers to have sex with you they might think somethings strange about you. if they knew you would go down on another woman while a man you met 3 minutes ago banged you in your but the other members of the pta or other soccer moms light look at you differently. that being said i still like to enjoy the woman i am having sex with. i still like to believe a woman is nice not just to have sex with but also a conversation with. while i love the excitement of seeing a woman naked the first time the sheer ecstasy of feeling oneself enter a different womans body for the very first time its still nice after the deed is done if you thought enough of her as a person to call, email or pm and say thank you i really enjoyed. i had a great time, you made me feel good. if a woman after we are done with our adult activity is so compelled to speak with me about her family, work, sports or the weather i am pleased she feels inclined to have a nice conversation and i am genuinely interested in what she has to say. if any of those things make me a nutcase , sadist , stalker etc i apologize all i want to be is a friendly nice guy that still enjoys a woman even after we are done and fully clothed.not be farther off. if anything i probably am more towards the end that tends to be the thank you had a great time kinda guy
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Well said Tiffany, But some people seem fine, act fine before and during the appointment. It's AFTER they get a little...strange.
Petiteassman, I never meant to offend anyone with my thread. I'm sorry I offended you. I'm sorry but you seem very hurt and angry towards women. And a little sadistic also..hmmmm. Plus, you seem to think I'm refering to all hobbyist. I am not. I am refering to the guys who respond in a needy way to me after the appointment. Truthfully, it's usually (not always) either newbies or very unhappy married men. Not the average well grounded prolific hobbyist. I see why alot of women refuse to see newbies.
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03-28-2011, 12:48 PM
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OK, a a matter of course if I've really enjoyed myself rather than simply busting a nut I send a PM saying so. But it never goes further. I see no contradiction at all between the inherent nature of the hobby and treating people with decency and consideration.
Isis and all providers are at risk of what happened to the extent they are successful, i.e in making us feel as though the time together is not simply mechanical. Numbers of guys, alas, are going to think that means way more than it does. As many have said, in many threads and forums, drawing the line between this world and whichever other ones we inhabit is pretty much essential.
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03-28-2011, 01:40 PM
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I just belive it is a world of fantasy, not business. Hobbyists(myself included) believe the woman is enraptured and that we have the largest cocks in the world. And that we rocked your world so thoroughly(as evidenced by your honest-to-goodness real orgasms), that you must want us to opine over you. And that is fine to do in the review. But a little greasing of the spokes after the fact, well that is just a waste of the providers time. Although the "It's just a job" tact might free up your time, it can also cut down on repeat clientele. And, more importantly, it is definitely an ego shot to the gentleman to whom your acting so ensnared.
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03-28-2011, 01:44 PM
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There is nothing wrong with having conversation before, during and after. I stated this on another thread earlier. I have always told the truth about myself and have never been a "fantasy" girl. I've shared very personal things about myself and the guys have even been so kind as to listen and offer advice. I also like thank you notes. It crosses a line if a person sends notes, texts or calls that ask that make one feel uncomfortable AFTER being told it's creating an uncomfortable feeling. I have been told to mind my own biz when I try to make small talk to some guys. lol I accept that. I like getting to know the real you and I feel honored that you want to know the real me. It makes me feel special when a man remembers our last conversation enough to even ask how my life or problem or whatever is going. He remembered. I think she is really just irritated with the guys that feel like they have 100% fell in love and just don't seem to accept that it isn't a mutual feeling. Thats what I got out of her post. I could be wrong. Btw...I don't mind being pen pals with someone if they are to far away to actually meet. I'd prefer someone that is local to come see me in person after a few emails, texts or calls. If he keeps putting me off but continues to email, then it makes me think he is a time waster. I always enjoy my regulars that send a quick note or make a quick call to see how I'm doing. Even if they can't see me right then. Nice to know I'm on your mind.
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