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02-18-2011, 09:00 AM
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Guys, let's try not to bash on LE, ethnic groups nor each other. Maybe the emotions of personal experiences have influenced ones thinking and that's ok.
So here is my point: assume that Houston has 1000 providers working any given day. Assume that each is consumating 3 transactions a day. Over the last 90 days, LE averages 3 busts a day. Three busts out of 3000 events. And I bet those were the obivious street walkers, lot lizards, etc. So, I am not so sure that LE is really picking on anybody per se.
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02-18-2011, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by HoustonLawyerNow
Guys, let's try not to bash on LE, ethnic groups nor each other. Maybe the emotions of personal experiences have influenced ones thinking and that's ok.
So here is my point: assume that Houston has 1000 providers working any given day. Assume that each is consumating 3 transactions a day. Over the last 90 days, LE averages 3 busts a day. Three busts out of 3000 events. And I bet those were the obivious street walkers, lot lizards, etc. So, I am not so sure that LE is really picking on anybody per se.
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LE doesn't enforce uniformly all over the US, so you can't take Houston and use it anecdotally. For instance, LE in the Little Rock area is notorious for oppressing the ladies. There is some hint that Chicago is the same way.
But that wasn't the thrust of the post. The thrust was: given the opportunity, LE would take advantage of the situation. And I don't think there's much doubt about that. Most cops probably don't think they're raping anyone. "She sells it to anyone that comes along. We're just bartering services." Don't try and minimize this conduct on the officers' part.
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02-18-2011, 09:57 AM
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This thread has taken many twists and turns. I am just not convinced that LE enforces vice laws more stringently than other offenses. Now maybe the real crux of the issue lies with the legislatures, et al. If the laws were changed, then things would be different.
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02-18-2011, 05:30 PM
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HLN - I agree with you...I dont believe that the police have the time, energy or intelligence to target people who are doing a decent job of CYA. However, to say they are not picking on anyone is still not correct. If 3000 went off and they caught three, believe me, those three are getting picked on.
Fact is, the police will pick on anyone they can get their hands on. One does not have to necessarily do anything wrong for one to get picked on. One can be going about one's own business, not engaged in anything particulary interesting and certainly nothing illegal, and end up in the jail house accused of a plethora of 'theeengs' that one has nothing to do with...and get treated like a rodent...and get picked on every second of the day...be deprived or privacy, medical care, and nutrition,and get tortured and raped and murdered, and/or possibly end up spending the rest of one's natural life locked up...and die a horrible death...all over nothing in particular.
The USA is in the middle of a major human rights crisis that has been going on for a long time without abatement....
That's why people are sensitive - especially on a site like this - when members start defending the oppressors. It just doesn't make sense.
Even if you have not experienced the loss of your human rights, don't short change others experiences who are members of your peer group. Don't you think that human rights offenses are something that we all should be concerned about? This may not be the forum to debate it, but if it's brought up then people feel like they have to respond in kind. That's all there is to it.
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02-18-2011, 05:46 PM
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I don't hate any group for the wrongs of others in that group...period. I know MANY cops who are legit and wonderful people and let me just say this....if heaven forbid the day ever comes when we have a missing child, or someone trying to break in our house, we won't be so quick to say they are all bad.
I have much respect for LE and the good they do, even though I don't agree with the other things they get away with. Saying all cops are bad is like saying all christians, teachers, or business owners are bad too.
I won't discredit what someone else might have gone through with LE, but I will also not say that there are none good in the bunch. I grew up with cops, and have seen just what they have to go through for very little pay. While I agree that escorting should not be punished, bottom line is it IS against the law. If we choose to engage in it, we really can't be so mad when busted for it. I do think that's all it should be though is a bust...not a barter to get free sex or beat us up.
NOPD is one of the most corrupt forces out there and I have never had an issue but once. These guys also made the paper and were called on their tactics because eventually IA has to take a stand or look bad if they don't clean house.
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02-18-2011, 05:48 PM
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This is what happens when you are a special ed student who does not tuck his shirt in...and this kid is special ed because of a prior brain injury...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2-SY7Q9_Yo
The cops are so sweet!!! Such good people....
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02-18-2011, 05:53 PM
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London - yay !!!!!!!!
So good to see you!!!!!
Just for the record, I don't think all cops are bad people...I have some who live far away from my county who are my clients even...but I don't defend them. I'm friends with the good ones and I don't defend the rest of them.
I believe their crimes should be equally punished along with the rest of the citizenry that's all. And it usually doesn't happen that way. Being a cop usually means, unfortunately, that if you choose to use your position to do crimes, chances are - you're going to get away with doing just about whatever you want. And that's f**ked up!
And for all those who work in the criminal justice system - should they be held accountable when they fraudulently move cases through the system that deprive innocent people of their lives and freedom? I think they should be held responsible for the same crimes they fraudulently convict innocent people of - let them do the time and they will be more hesitant to make stuff up about innocent people.
That's all I'm saying - equality. Not talking about avoiding being brought up on my misdemeanor charges for the things I may or may not do. LOL
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02-18-2011, 06:10 PM
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Hi sweetie!
Yes I do agree that too many crimes by them are swept under the rug, but that is in all walks of life. If you have money, you can buy yourself out. If you are Paris Hilton you get a slap on the wrist and lobster in your cell. If you are in the mob, well you know how that goes. If you went to Harvard and your dad is a judge or respected member of the community...again immunity from all wrong doing. It's not just cops who get away with these things.
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02-18-2011, 06:18 PM
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The entire justice system - completely tainted. Agreed.
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02-18-2011, 06:20 PM
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Your credentials don't impress me. Let's just say I have more and more experience than you do.
Yeah, and the ladies may OFFER the services, but any good cop would turn them down. Looks like there's a lot of bad ones. And not all ladies offer the services to begin with, and there's a bunch of cops out there coercing the services.
And you must not be able to pass the psychologicals since you can't get in the real deal. You contract to the real services, and do private security. The way you phrased it, you could be doing everything from being unarmed, sitting at a desk with a paperback in your hand to working for Blackwater. But it is apparent from your post you know little of street cops. And even if you do, you've identified so much with them that there is no convincing you of the real side of LE.
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Can't get in the real deal? I prefer making a high 6 figure salary than 65,000 a year. I stated I worked SWAT and provide tactical services, yes pushing paper is very "tactical" isn't it.
I don't know why you have an attitude but theres no point in being a dick, were adults trying to discuss something. I wasn't attempting to impress you in the slightest but show why I know what I am talking about.
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02-18-2011, 08:34 PM
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Having been an idealist about what LE stood for when I was a much younger woman, I became disillusioned by the acts I witnessed first hand. However, I do realize that there are some good LEO's out and about and yes there are those who would move heaven and earth to protect you and yours from harms way. Thank God!
It looks like there are a lot of knowledgeable opinions and first hand experiences from both the right side and the wrong side of the law. I just feel that grouping a whole profession and being prejudice against them due to the actions of the bad seeds that somehow manage to get involved in that profession is the same as being prejudice against any other group of people. I'm an escort, but I sure as heck would never bait and switch, get caught in an alley, support a drug habit or many of the various things that bring negative attention to our profession. However, there are those who have grouped me into the same category as those who do these things. I get it.
Personally, I'm still very disillusioned and am wary when I first get approached by someone in law enforcement under any circumstances. That doesn't mean I think they are ALL overstepping the boundaries of their profession. I just assume they do, until I am certain they don't. It's a simple defensive mechanism many of us use to try and remain unharmed by those who we shouldn't have those fears about in the first place.
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02-18-2011, 08:56 PM
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Just because some inmates get beaten does not mean it was not earned. I have seen how with minimal editing a video can be totally distorted.
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