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Old 10-06-2010, 09:41 AM   #46
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Jeeeezzz! When is this blame game ever going to end?
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:05 PM   #47
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Maybe we should designate YMMV + and YMMV - to describe situations where YMMV results in exceptional and substandard experiences respectively.

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Great idea! Most often, I end up with YMMV+; which is a reason why I seldom complain!
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:10 PM   #48
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:11 PM   #49
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Old 10-06-2010, 05:14 PM   #50
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I hate the thought of people describing their time with me in terms of "mileage." Reaffirms my decision not to allow reviews! When you're offering something so very sincere and personal to another human being, it would really get under my skin to hear it discussed publicly in those terms.
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:08 PM   #51
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I hate the thought of people describing their time with me in terms of "mileage." Reaffirms my decision not to allow reviews! When you're offering something so very sincere and personal to another human being, it would really get under my skin to hear it discussed publicly in those terms.
I see the term used mostly in escort ads...only occasionally in reviews.
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:19 PM   #52
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:12 PM   #53
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Probably never; hth
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:49 PM   #54
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I see the term used mostly in escort ads...only occasionally in reviews.
Wow, really?
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:02 AM   #55
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I get along better with some people and just okay with some other. Some may like my services more than others. However I always provide top services,same level of energy,same attitude.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:39 AM   #56
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Would it be reasonable for Date 1 expect same "mileage" as Date 2?Lina
It reads as if both gentleman had their expectations met. Variables for you and the guys created their own aura and experiences that were obviously different. Suffice it to say I am envious of both of your dates. I've had trysts similar to both of your dates and was very fulfilled on my way back to real world.

But I have also had meetings that indeed fell short of my expectations. I do not necessarily blame the woman because I think we just didn't click. That is life (real or demimonde) as Lauren pointed out.

So Lina, how's your schedule these days?
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:01 AM   #57
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CT,

Your response irked me. My specific comments are included within the quote.

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I also think that my expectations may be higher than other hobbyists. Ladies often state they prefer "mature" gentlemen. I have strongly suspected that the reason a lot of ladies say that is because they don't want to get pounded in the way a young stud can do so. Also, they think older gents treat them better. And while that may be, older gents like me may expect to be treated better in return, and we become disillusioned when it doesn't happen. Another reason, I suspect, that ladies prefer "mature" gentlemen is that they don't bargain the payment. Or tend to leave less than the full donation.

So, between the respect, the easy fuck, and not haggling over the donation, a "mature" date is an easy date. And generally, the "mature" date may forgive "little" things and walk away from a session thanking his lucky stars. But I guess my standards are a little higher than that. When the little things don't occur, I tend to chalk it up to poor service.

CT, at first I thought you were a bit dyspeptic, but now I suspect you also feel superior to the rest of us muckers and plodders because you operate on a higher plane and have "higher" expectation and standards.

I don't know why you would think that (what's the basis for your comparison?) but it is mildly insulting to those who find more happiness in the hobby than you. It is also a cheap debating trick to devalue the opinion of others by implying that they are inferior in taste and sensitivity.

I fall into the mature category and I am respectful, don't haggle and don't short the envelope. But I don't forgive poor service out of sense of gratitude nor do I fall short in the "pounding" part. I can still "bring it" when properly provoked. That seems to make everyone happy!!

And everyone else seems to think my mileage just varies. And because I'm just a little critical, they say it's my attitude.

You nailed that one.
Isn't there a song that says, "Be Happy?"
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:30 AM   #58
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I hate the thought of people describing their time with me in terms of "mileage." Reaffirms my decision not to allow reviews! When you're offering something so very sincere and personal to another human being, it would really get under my skin to hear it discussed publicly in those terms.
It's just lingo, Natalie. Dehumanizing lingo to be sure, but that's true of all kinds of stuff in this "hobby". I don't think anybody means anything by it when they are posting, they are just using language that we all know what it means. I think if he were to use the word "mileage" in person with you, I could see why that might be off-putting. Instead of asking you for something, he should be "earning it" with his efforts to please you. Isn't that how you see it? It's how I see it.

But big picture, I am with you. I prefer the idea (or is it the fantasy?) that once the business is taken care of, what I am getting from you is 100% of what you would give your most beloved boyfriend (minus the honeydo list that would follow, of course) when you are at your 100% most in love with him. Isn't that what the GFE illusion is all about? that for the time we are together, you are "in love" with me in just about every way I could perceive it?

Mileage is a fact of life, because contrary to what some football coaches might say, you can never give "110%", and frankly you can seldom give 100%. But, we all know the difference between a provider whose heart is in it versus one whose heart (and mind) is somewhere else, a long way away, just hoping the time passes as quickly as possible while being hypnotized by the ceiling fan.

Hope this is on point for you.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:44 AM   #59
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To echo TP, one could write: "I had a so-so time with 'Ms. Fantasy Tryst®' I suspect that another gentleman might have a better (or worse time) with her. Our chemistry wasn't right. I wanted to hurl myself in front of an express bus."

This becomes more important if others (DG, RK, TTH, AltCom, etc. you get the idea) say it was a one-in-a-million time spent with Ms. Tryst®, and they're never going to see anyone else again (yea, right). And I had a mediocre time with her.

So the YMMV and the term "mileage" are just metaphors.
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Old 10-08-2010, 11:20 AM   #60
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Sometimes two people just don't "click" sexually.

A recent session with a provider illustrates this point. We clicked on all levels ... except our sexual compatibility Though we both tried, we couldn't make the sex work even though she used every skill, trick and toy she had in her travel bag of experience.

It was no big deal. We still enjoyed each others company and continued to play knowing that a sexual release wasn't going to happen. We still had playful fun.

Did I give this provider a bad review? No way! She did her best and she had a great attitude throughout the entire session.

Would I see her again as a provider? No. But I would have drinks and dinner with her anytime. We would share hours of stimulating conversation and banter. By the way, we've kept in touch with each other.

Since I've been in the hobby for over 24 years and have shared the company of well over a thousand different beautiful and wonderful ladies; I don't need (or expect) every session to be a 10 ... or even a 6.

When I look back over the years I can say without any reservations that that I have received far more from providers and the hobby, in general, than I gave. According to my calculations, that's one hell of a deal!
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