Not All Money is Good Money

[coolaid]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I wasn't particularly talking about you, but if the shoe fits?.

I didn't think you were talking about me. I have no idea what you talked about because I didn't read a single word of your 10 page diatribe.

[Guest082318]

Originally Posted by sky18

Eccie money equals std. 1 in 4 have herpies. For those cim cock suckers who suck 4+ dicks a day have herpies.

How many cocks did you suck yesterday?

[Guest070818-1]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I wasn't sure to put this. So in the interest of irritating my haters I put it here and in D and T.

Ladies, not all money is good money. You have to remember that. Just because it all spends or you may need it, doesn’t mean it’s worth it to see someone that you have a bad feeling about for one reason or another. Sometimes those reasons will be overt, as in a blind man could see it, and sometimes those reasons will be covert like your spidey senses going off. I’m not necessarily talking about some serial killer wanting to wear your skin though it does happen in the Indy World where there’s a physical risk though I’ve not known anyone that has been physically harmed. I’m talking about clients or men that contact you that are hobby lifers, hagglers, time wasters, and the worst clients that are dark knights. These dark knights can affect anything from you mood to your business. Dark knights, being the worst of the set of shitty clients, are clients that go out of their way to hassle, or worse, derail a lady’s business. Everyone knows there’s also those irritating clients that you’d really rather not see, but their money spends so you see them. But, I’m more talking about problem clients or some wanna be client. You know those ones that call you saying, “Baby, I just know I love you, but can you see me for bla-bla.” You wanna say, “NO, I can’t fucking see you for half my rate asshole.”, but you learn to just ignore those wannabes.
Fortunately, about eighty percent of them can be spotted through the introductory and screening phase. The ones that sneak through your screening process and defy your spidey senses, for whatever reason, are the worst ones. And it is important that you deal with them quickly and effectively as much as it will gall you to do so. Because those silently disappointed, post-coital fuckers that dark knight you are the most dangerous to your business.

Catching the ones not to see from the get-go is easy once you get the hang of dealing with the TCB (Taking Care of Business – the correspondence, screening, setting the appointment, etc.) side of the business. Because hobby lifers are a big catch all for many if not all but five percent of the men and categories of men not to see because they are typically hagglers, time waters and in general hanger-oners, I’ll start with them. They’ll try to tell you all kinds of bullshit ranging anywhere from “I just want to hang out with you” to “Baby, I’m going to take care of you”. But the bottom line is: they don’t want to pay and they can’t take care of you. If they could, they wouldn’t be hassling hookers and strippers for a little love, between the sheets lovin’, or whatever the fuck they get out of the game/s they play so stay away from them. Believe it or not these hobby lifer assholes trying to hustle you for whatever isn’t the main reason you want to stay away from them. The number one reason you want to stay away from them is not only do they not want to pay, but they will run their mouth about you when you cut them off. They’re great at talking you up while you are giving them what they want. When they are fat and happy with your sweet attentions, they are driving traffic to your door by flapping their big fat mouths about you. But once you decide you’re done with their bullshit, if you’re lucky, all you’ll be out is your time and and the money you spent picking up the check/s. If you’re unlucky, the dark knight comes out and they shit talk you to the Nth Degree in their private little man-dens where shitty little men talk shit about women they can never have – not that I have an opinion on this one fucking way or another ha-ha and wink-wink. The lifers will of course be off you for good, but the real danger is some potential clients will believe said lifer. And some new, good paying, potential clients may be off you for good too because of the lifer’s rumor mongering and lies. It’s not fair, but that’s the way of it nonetheless.
So best advice starting out, stay off the boards except for your ads, if you choose to run ads on local message boards, and the occasional happy fun-time post or here and there to remind the gentlemen of your presence. Avoid posting prolifically on the boards so the hobby lifers won’t have a chance to develop a repartee with you. However, Once you are established and you know the characters, post away to catch the eye of the lurkers. I personally did a bang up business from the lurkers.
Now let’s pick on the next bunch: the hagglers. They can be a bitch to gauge. If it’s a “How much for an hour?” inquiry, refer him to your website. DO NOT DISCUSS YOUR RATE WITH ANYONE WITHOUT SCREENING THEM. First off, if he’s for real, he’ll give you his screening information. If he’s just some asshole wanting a nice Indy lady for Backpage prices, he’ll blow you off before you get a chance to blow him off. I do not recommend discussing price or negotiating your hourly rate with anyone that you’ve not see at least once. Now if you want to negotiate a new rate with a client that sees you regularly, fine. There’s nothing wrong with a volume discount or grandfathering in old clients when you raise your rates.

The guy that wants to know how much for you to drive to Conroe for two hours and wants to know how much isn’t so much of a haggler but more of an astute consumer that doesn’t really want to pay you for your two hours’ drive time but knows he has to compensate you somehow. (Another option is to get a nice three star minimum hotel half way.) If you have the time and want the money, SCREEN HIM FIRST. UNDER NO CIRUCMSTANCES, DISCUSS RATES WITHOUT SCREENING HIM FIRST. It’s worth going through the trouble to screen this type of client because he’s more than likely a decent enough guy. You just need to decide whether you want the money or not. If you do, don’t tell they guy it’s a four hour minimum because you’ll loose the appointment. If there’s any doubt on his end about the fee, that is if he asks or even mentions pricing for extended engagements or long drive times, get the fee for the extenuating circumstances straight from the get go or don’t see him. As an example, if you’re two hour minimum is $800 run out there and see for a grand or whatever. But not mention anything and at the end of your appointment expect to get paid for four hour rate for a two hour appointment and your drive time. At the very least you’ll lose a potential repeat client. He could write a bad review about you. He could do an alert on you. He could start a thread on a local board about you. Or he could bird dog all your reviews and say nasty things about you.

Time wasters are just that – time wasters. I gave them two questions and if they asked a third, I politely got off the phone with them. I’m not put on the planet to have free phone sex with some asshole.

If you meet with a client that turns out to be a dark knight for whatever reason, it’s important for you to do your best to neutralize him as quickly and quietly as possible. If you know the reason the dark knight has a hard on for you, you can try to address that, head on, BEHIND THE SCENES, with him. That is do not take it to the local hobby message board with him. If he’s super hateful even after you’ve tried to address the issue with him, and if the issue is REALLY no fault of your own, try involving the local moderators to head him and any negative comments he may have off at the pass. If it is a combination of both of your faults, still appealing directly to a FEMALE FRIENDLY moderator can help. Or you can do your best to avoid the dark night or any topics that might incite the dark knight. REMEMBER, YOU WILL NEVER WIN GETTING INTO A PUBLIC MUD SLINGING CONTEST WITH ANYONE LET ALONE A HOBBIEST. Stay out of it other than to say you are very sorry that he, as your former client, feels that way and offer him a refund or whatever amends making gesture you feel meets his needs. If he’s not your client, say you are sorry he feels that way, but make it clear that you two have never met and that your TCB skills were not the cause of the problem/s at hand – AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.

If you have no idea why your dark knight is dogging you around town, you can try appealing to him privately, but that really is the best you can do. Enlisting white knights to help you with a dark horse can backfire. You run the risk of the hobby lifers ganging up on your white knight and you. If that happens, stay the fuck out of it.


Linck is in my sig line.

Long story short: You only have one pussy. Choose and fuck wisely!

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by coolaid

I didn't think you were talking about me. I have no idea what you talked about because I didn't read a single word of your 10 page diatribe.

Actually, it's not a diatribe so how would you know what I said or didn't say. So in that vein, let's let the lovely Ms. Brown Sugar paraphrase:

Originally Posted by BrownSugarBaby

Long story short: You only have one pussy. Choose and fuck wisely!

That's it.

[Russ38]

Originally Posted by BrownSugarBaby

Long story short: You only have one pussy. Choose and fuck wisely!

I like BSB's version much better.....of course having an ass like hers makes it difficult to disagree with anything she says.....

[Guest062217]

+1..now that is one smokin hot ass...I need to see that in person.

Originally Posted by Russ38

I like BSB's version much better.....of course having an ass like hers makes it difficult to disagree with anything she says.....

[JESSE JAMES]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Actually, it's not a diatribe so how would you know what I said or didn't say. So in that vein, let's let the lovely Ms. Brown Sugar paraphrase:


That's it.

Wow . talk about a hypocritical, forked tongue Ol Ho----Few weeks back in Eccie worldwide W T F and I caught you in some lies and irrefutable evidence of your sinister agenda that you couldn't squirm and fib your way out of-------What did you do???----Call the posts diatribes and said you didn't read them

Now here you are telling cool-aid----"its not a diatribe so how would you know what I said or didn't say Its only alright for you to openly contradict yourself How pathetic

Newsflash Brainiac You are kind of a special case---A known gasbag , who consistently blathers on and on Ad infinitum with your rants and raves, Your discourse is laced with tirades, harangues, castigation, disparagement etc. No one really needs to wade through your God-awful boring drivel to know it is a diatribe

You owe cool aid an apology

[Guest050715-1]

JJ, no, you caught me in no lies. I had a difference of opinion. And your first paragraph is where I stopped reading.

Ladies: this is an example of a hatter that will become obsessed and go to all lengths to derail a lady. His basic bitch is he stole from me. I gave him a chance to make. It right. He didn't. And I got him thrown off the screening site he was on for stealing.

How it applies here, is be sure it's worth it to "report" someone. To me it was. I had reached a financial. Goal and working was just the icing. Be careful, and by that I mean back channel the shit out of someone, but perhaps don't take even thefts to the "authorities". If he is truly dangerous, that is a different matter. But $200? Maybe not so much if you're dependent on the World for your sole living.

[JESSE JAMES]

No tice you using the same ol lame strategy--- claiming you didn't read parts of a post that catch you up in your deceit that you can't defend----Most people can see through this; and recognize what a reckless disregard of the truth you bring to the board---contradicting yourself time and again.

There are various reasons for deceit-----vengeance, revenge, financial gain, retribution etc. Your motive is very obvious--- You have been crying like a pissy little baby for how long about a misunderstanding years ago that you exacerbated by your complete and utter stupidity and made even worse by your perverse nature. You then choose to lie about the salient details---and why???

Obviously the facts would completely contradict the image that you would seem to spend all your time trying to project---The wise, sagacious, kindly, retired Ol' Ho' and internet troll passing out nuggets of wisdom to the less enlightened Your stupidity wouldn't fit that image would it ? Well, Let me give you some advice---- Telling the truth may cause seconds of pain, but there is no medicine that can manage the pain of keeping lies. Also, there may be a bimbo or two somewhere who think you are the worth listening to, but the majority view you as a tired ,mouthy, worn out old battle-axe

You seem to think you have things figured out. You claim people are angry and obsessed with you Ha Ha---Shit that happened years ago water over the bridge nothing to be angry about now You flatter yourself by thinking someone of your ilk is worth obsessing about Ha Ha Truth be told--you ought to try the truth sometime--- It is so much fun to piss you off--- Why ??? If you guessed that because you are obnoxious, argumentative, adversarial ,vindictive and deceitful you would be spot on. Yea, I know that is immature---- but I'm not perfect-- and I'm not the only one I was talking to a provider a couple of days ago who was telling it made her day to get your panties in a wad If It can make peoples day by putting you in your place------maybe its time for some serious self examination on your part--Maybe you can try to be less hatefull--I know it would be hard for you but one can only hope

[BFCjosh]

Originally Posted by JESSE JAMES

You claim people are angry and obsessed with you Ha Ha---Shit that happened years ago water over the bridge nothing to be angry about now You flatter yourself by thinking someone of your ilk is worth obsessing about Ha Ha

Dude, I just looked at your posting history. You do seem pretty damn angry and obsessed with her.

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

Remember kids, it's down the road, not across the street.

[GlobeSpotter]

If we quit posting on this one.....it will move on south where it belongs. Hopefully, to never rise again.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by BFCjosh

Dude, I just looked at your posting history. You do seem pretty damn angry and obsessed with her.

Yep , you have the measure of it. You on the other hand seem like one of the true gentleman that enrich our little World.

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

Lol too funny!

[Guest062114-5]

Seriously?